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Is There Such a Thing as "White Privilege"?

Is there such a thing as White Privilege?

  • Yes

    Votes: 50 59.5%
  • No

    Votes: 34 40.5%

  • Total voters
    84
This goes further, more nationwide:

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Do you really believe that black people drive worse?

Whenever I come upon someone straddling the fast lane driving 32 miles per hour in a 65 MPH zone, inevitably the person behind the wheel is Asian, and 95% of the time also female. They should be pulled over for that. I'm at the point I think all Asian women should have to take an annual driving test.

(Can you tell this happened to me yet again this morning)??
 
No, that's not what I said at all. "Driving While Black" is the name used to describe the phenomenon. Take this as an example - this person was questioned by police because he's black.

‘Running while black’ seen as reason for police stop in Town of Tonawanda - City & Region - The Buffalo News

This man could not explain why, if he thought police had violated his rights by stopping him, he didn't file a complaint with that police department. Police only need a reasonable suspicion of criminal activity to conduct a Terry stop. If he thinks they didn't have that reasonable suspicion, he can take legal action. Apparently, he'd rather just gripe and claim he was a victim of racial harassment. Sounds he just wanted to get his picture in the paper.
 
This man could not explain why, if he thought police had violated his rights by stopping him, he didn't file a complaint with that police department. Police only need a reasonable suspicion of criminal activity to conduct a Terry stop. If he thinks they didn't have that reasonable suspicion, he can take legal action. Apparently, he'd rather just gripe and claim he was a victim of racial harassment. Sounds he just wanted to get his picture in the paper.

You may have something there, but the "reasonable suspicion" is that they had a report of a black person committing a robbery. Does that mean that every single black person in a given locality is a suspect? Would you make the same assumption if it were a white that robbed the drugstore?
 
Funny how japs and chinesse aren't suffering the same consequences as the blacks or latinos.
I mean, do they have asian privileges? Is that it?


Why is it that when a white person does something worth praising like graduating college or having a good job or w/e, it's played down as being because he has privilege. I think it's dishonest and takes away from the merit. When an asian graduated college or has a good job and is living well off it isn't diminished even though both groups have high graduation rates. Why is that?

There is no such thing as race "privilege" in the way the OP and others try to make it seem.

Everyone gets what he deserves. if you work hard and put your mind to work you will succeed. Everyone faces the same adversity everyday.
You do drugs, you go to jail.

Whenever I see all those statistics about the number of blacks vs whites who go to prison for drug posession why is it that nobody talks about # of possesions. Prior convictions or amount carried.
It's all sanitized to paint a pretty picture.

I'm a critical thinker and I don't like it when things show up as being clear cut. It smells of dishonesty. It smells like someone is trying too hard to make a point that, if context were provided, it would vanish.

In the USA, the only people who have some hint of privilege are the politically-well-connected. They have privileges. As in things that they shouldn't have but have for no merit.
 
Whenever I come upon someone straddling the fast lane driving 32 miles per hour in a 65 MPH zone, inevitably the person behind the wheel is Asian, and 95% of the time also female. They should be pulled over for that. I'm at the point I think all Asian women should have to take an annual driving test.

(Can you tell this happened to me yet again this morning)??
This phenomenon has no racial boundaries in my experience. Invariably, when I finally get around these idiots, they are texting.
 
NOTHING he said implied ANYTHING, only you implied it. I can see you can't own up to your own comments. NOTHING he said mentioned ANYTHING about whites, only YOU did. And seeing your previous comment I quoted you on it is clear you make racist comments.

...Yes it was...no it wasn't...Yes it was...no it wasn't...Yes it was...no it wasn't...Yes it was...no it wasn't...Yes it was...no it wasn't.

You win. I'm tired of your idiotic game.
 
Whenever I come upon someone straddling the fast lane driving 32 miles per hour in a 65 MPH zone, inevitably the person behind the wheel is Asian, and 95% of the time also female. They should be pulled over for that. I'm at the point I think all Asian women should have to take an annual driving test.

(Can you tell this happened to me yet again this morning)??

Down here if a person isnt driving so well it is likely that they have on a cowboy hat (no matter their race). But that is probably just because it is easier to single out and remember drivers with cowboy hats.
 
Funny how japs and chinesse aren't suffering the same consequences as the blacks or latinos.
I mean, do they have asian privileges? Is that it?


Why is it that when a white person does something worth praising like graduating college or having a good job or w/e, it's played down as being because he has privilege. I think it's dishonest and takes away from the merit. When an asian graduated college or has a good job and is living well off it isn't diminished even though both groups have high graduation rates. Why is that?

There is no such thing as race "privilege" in the way the OP and others try to make it seem.

Everyone gets what he deserves. if you work hard and put your mind to work you will succeed. Everyone faces the same adversity everyday.
You do drugs, you go to jail.

Whenever I see all those statistics about the number of blacks vs whites who go to prison for drug posession why is it that nobody talks about # of possesions. Prior convictions or amount carried.
It's all sanitized to paint a pretty picture.

I'm a critical thinker and I don't like it when things show up as being clear cut. It smells of dishonesty. It smells like someone is trying too hard to make a point that, if context were provided, it would vanish.

In the USA, the only people who have some hint of privilege are the politically-well-connected. They have privileges. As in things that they shouldn't have but have for no merit.

I used to think like this.
 
Where the hell is this white privilege? I have been a cracker all my life and so far the only thing I have gotten for it was a tan.

The ONLY white privilege I had was to check on my pay slip on payday to see if I had a positive balance after Uncle Sam and the state relieved me of their share of my salary to donate to the welfare agencies they run to take care of the po' underprivileged.
 
...Yes it was...no it wasn't...Yes it was...no it wasn't...Yes it was...no it wasn't...Yes it was...no it wasn't...Yes it was...no it wasn't.

You win. I'm tired of your idiotic game.

FACT, he didn't type what you said and you had to make a lying comment. FACT and undeniable. Your concession is the noted.
 
Some of them are. Many of them are, in fact...black lawyers, black doctors, black stockbrokers, black teachers, black accountants, black restaurant owners, black CEOs, black actors, black entertainers, black business owners, black sales people....we even have a black President, black Attorney General, black SCOTUS judge.....

There is nothing prohibiting a smart, hardworking black person from rising to the very pinnacle of success in this country. We have living proof of that. This isn't 1862 anymore.

You skipped right over black athletes. Of course that small chunk of the U.S. population has NO privileges whatsoever. They're treat like stray dogs. Absolutely NO respect.
 
Does that mean white people never get stopped?

Careful there, TheNextEra will get you on a merry-go-round posting the same bs over and over and over.
 
You may have something there, but the "reasonable suspicion" is that they had a report of a black person committing a robbery. Does that mean that every single black person in a given locality is a suspect? Would you make the same assumption if it were a white that robbed the drugstore?

Police can briefly detain a person to ask him questions if they have reasonable suspicion of criminal activity. They can use substantial force if necessary, for example to prevent the detainee from walking away, but they may not force him to move very far from where they first encounter him.

Investigatory detentions are sometimes called "Terry stops" after Terry v. Ohio, the 1969 Supreme Court decision that established the "reasonable suspicion" standard they must meet to avoid being unreasonable seizures under the Fourth Amendment. Reasonable suspicion must be based on articulable facts--i.e. it must be more than just a hunch.

Police may ask the detainee to identify himself, although not all states require him to do that. Some of the states that do require self-identification require an ID document, but in others it's enough for the detainee just to tell police his name.

Probable cause, which police need to arrest a person, is a more demanding standard than reasonable suspicion. Information police acquire during an investigatory detention, including their observations of the detainee's demeanor and behavior, may sometimes give them probable cause to arrest him. If not, they must break off the investigatory detention after a few minutes. If it goes on too long, the detainee would arguably be under arrest, but without probable cause.

The Court held in a later decision that reasonable suspicion is determined based on the totality of the circumstances. It's sometimes hard for courts to decide if police had the required reasonable suspicion, and I don't pretend to be able to make that call just from the information in some newspaper article.

It should be obvious that if the only fact police could articulate to justify a Terry stop was that the person detained was of a certain race, that would not satisfy the reasonable suspicion requirement.
 
Privilege is simply the other side of discrimination. People of color have the disadvantage of dealing with racial discrimination as a rule while white people have the advantage, or privilege, of being of not dealing with racial discrimination as a rule. It's important to acknowledge the privilege aspect in addition to the discrimination aspect so that people who are privileged understand how it plays a role in their lives.

On that very subject...BLACK PRIVILEGE

Black privilege - Metapedia

Black privilege manifests itself in numerous forms:

Blacks have the right to take pride in their race. Whites don't.

Blacks can never be racist. Whites are always racist, even if they don't try to be.

Blacks get to play the race card. Whites don't.

Blacks never have to feel guilty about being black. Whites are trained to feel guilty about being white.

Blacks have the right to make blacks only organizations like the Black Student Union and the Congressional Black Caucus. Whites don't.

Blacks have the right to never take responsibility for their own actions. Anything bad which happens to a black person can be blamed on racism or white people. Whites have to take responsibility and apologize for their actions.

Rich black people have a right to be rich. Rich white people don't.

Black people have the right to demonize white people. White people don't have the right to demonize black people.

Black people are excused when they are prejudiced against white people. White people are never excused for prejudice against black people.

Black people are a "protected class." White people are not.

Violent crimes by whites on blacks are "hate crimes." Violent crimes by blacks on whites are just "random" crimes.

Blacks have the right to affirmative action and minority set-asides. Whites have to earn their positions.

Blacks are "cool." Whites are "squares" and "rednecks."

Blacks have the right to say words like "nigger," which whites are never allowed to use. They have the right to incessantly repeat the word "nigger" in front of white people, to intimidate them and keep them in their place.

Blacks can make the most racially insensitive comments and, more often than not, no one blinks twice. They are allowed to insult others without repercussion.[1]

Blacks can spend their rent money on designer handbags and then complain about how they don’t have the same economic opportunities as everyone else. And they get away with it.[2]

Black men are sexual supermen. White men are sexually inadequate. Black men have huge penises. White men have small, inadequate penises.

Blacks have "civil rights". Whites don't.

Blacks are in prison because of racism. Whites are in prison because they're criminals.

Black jury members have the right to acquit criminals, if they're black.

Blacks have the right to put a halt to any policy, statement, symbol, statistic, outcome, word or expression they find offensive. Whites have no such rights.

Blacks are morally superior to whites.

"[Blacks] enjoy cultural cache around the world as victors over oppression and the hard reality of what that looks like at this point in world history. The music that they enjoy, the clothes that they wear, their very mannerisms carry a certain amount of gravitas."[3]

Blacks can assign collective racial guilt to "you white folks." White people cannot do the reverse because that would be racist.

White people everywhere, and at all times, bear guilt for the crimes of a minority of white people in the past (e.g., slave owners, Adolf Hitler). Making blacks bear guilt, as a race, for the despicable crimes of their criminal minority is stereotyping, racist, and an insult to reason; after all, no one should ever be blamed for the acts of some unrelated person.

Blacks have "black culture." Whites are not allowed to have white culture.

African-American studies is a celebration of blackness and black culture. Whiteness studies is a demonization of white people and white culture.

White people need to undergo diversity/sensitivity training. Black people don't.

"... any generalization--favorable or unfavorable--about any minority that someone does not like is by definition "racist" and deserves to be suppressed--as long as it is said by a white person. Black diversity consultants, in contrast, can parade, without a shred of empirical evidence, the grossest racial and ethnic stereotypes with virtual impunity."[4]

It's racist to point out racism by blacks. It's never racist to point out racism by whites.

Whites have to walk on eggshells around blacks. Blacks don't give a **** what whites think.

Blacks have the right to riot and commit violent acts in response to perceived grievances. White people have to obey the law at all times.

Blacks have the right to never be portrayed as criminals or low-lifes in films or on TV. Bad guys on the screen must always be white.

Blacks have the right to never be ridiculed, mocked, belittled or laughed at. Whites have no such right.

Black criminals have the right to have their race censored in media reports.

Facts which cause blacks embarrassment or cast them in a bad light must be suppressed. Facts which cause whites embarrassment or cast them in a bad light are reported as is.

Blacks can silence and intimidate whites by calling them racist. Whites can't silence and intimidate blacks because that would be racist.

Forcing whitey to apologize shows black power and clout. Whites can never force blacks to apologize because that would constitute a lynching.

Whites are held to a system of 'sensitivity' requirements that do not apply to blacks.

"Whites are monitored, pestered, and punished for preposterous reasons--for a look, for an innocent word, for wearing a T-shirt, for expressing a plausible argument--but blacks can say almost anything with perfect impunity."[5]

"In discussions of race between black people and white people the conscious black person is always right; is always the ultimate authority on questions having to do with race and racism; must always be regarded as the ‘injured party,’ or the oppressed. . . . [Whites] cannot possibly be expected to be objective about questions of race."[6]

Blacks may work for explicitly racial goals but whites may not.

Blacks are permitted to notice race. Whites are not.

"It is quite acceptable for either party to explicitly go after the black, Hispanic, or even the Jewish vote. In fact both parties gain an indispensable moral authority by doing so. But it is absolutely verboten for either party, or any white candidate, to appeal to whites as a racial identity group. Racial identity is simply forbidden to whites in America and across the entire Western world. Black children today are hammered with the idea of racial identity and pride, yet racial pride in whites constitutes a grave evil. Say 'I'm white and I'm proud' and you are a National Socialist."[7]

A black person who punches a white person is a hero standing up to oppression. A white person who punches a black person is a racist.

It can be publicly admitted that blacks are superior to whites in certain pursuits (i.e. basketball). It can never be publicly admitted that whites are superior to blacks in other pursuits (i.e. winning Nobel prizes in science).

When blacks are overrepresented in a desirable field, it is due to their abilities. When whites are overrepresented in a desirable field, it is due to racism. When blacks are overrepresented in an undesirable field, it is due to racism.
 
Wanna look at drug crime conventions and race? Wanna look at "stop and frisk" statistics?

Are those statistics grounded in race or simply in criminal activity? We've got a few bars around town that get lots of police attention. The majority of the clientele is Mexican. Those bars get all that attention because they are a hotbed for drunken brawls, not just because they are frequented by Mexicans.
 
Is there such a thing as "Minority" privilege?
 
On that very subject...BLACK PRIVILEGE

Black privilege - Metapedia

This is so far off, it's not even funny. To address a few of the "points:"

Blacks have the right to take pride in their race. Whites don't.

Who says you can't be proud? I am.



Blacks get to play the race card. Whites don't.

Which apparently isn't stopping you from trying.

Black people have the right to demonize white people. White people don't have the right to demonize black people.

Which again, isn't stopping you from trying


Black people are a "protected class." White people are not.

Do white people need "protection?'

Blacks are "cool." Whites are "squares" and "rednecks."

Who says? The "typical liberal" that only exists in the RW blogoshpere?


Black men are sexual supermen. White men are sexually inadequate. Black men have huge penises. White men have small, inadequate penises.

That's largely known to be not totally true. It is sometimes cited as a joke, but I guess when we're trying to prove how white people are persecuted there is no sense of humor.

Blacks have "civil rights". Whites don't.

Really? Where do whites not get to vote?



Blacks are morally superior to whites.

Says who? You again?

"[Blacks] enjoy cultural cache around the world as victors over oppression and the hard reality of what that looks like at this point in world history. The music that they enjoy, the clothes that they wear, their very mannerisms carry a certain amount of gravitas."[3]

Just because black people always have pushed the envelope on musical expression is more of a criticism of white people.

Blacks can assign collective racial guilt to "you white folks." White people cannot do the reverse because that would be racist.

What are we going to make them feel guilty about? Allowing themselves to be captured as slaves? Submitting to Jim Crow laws?

White people everywhere, and at all times, bear guilt for the crimes of a minority of white people in the past (e.g., slave owners, Adolf Hitler). Making blacks bear guilt, as a race, for the despicable crimes of their criminal minority is stereotyping, racist, and an insult to reason; after all, no one should ever be blamed for the acts of some unrelated person.

Which is exactly what you're trying to do by putting out racial stereotypes like "welfare queens" or "bigger dicks."

Blacks have "black culture." Whites are not allowed to have white culture.

What do you call St. Patrick's Day? The only real difference is that white people can point to specific cultures based on the national origin of their ancestors. Black Americans generally can't because they have no idea

Whites have to walk on eggshells around blacks. Blacks don't give a **** what whites think.

Name one way in which you have to walk on eggshells? Is this about not getting to call them "niggers?" That's just being a decent person, which if you are Christian, is pretty much what Jesus taught you to do.

Blacks have the right to never be portrayed as criminals or low-lifes in films or on TV. Bad guys on the screen must always be white.

When's the last time you watched TV? Seriously, this is wrong in so many ways....

Blacks can silence and intimidate whites by calling them racist. Whites can't silence and intimidate blacks because that would be racist.

A common mistake around here is not knowing the meaning of the term racism. Racism is a societal thing and in some cases a governmental thing. Black society can't intimidate white society, and blacks have never controlled the government in the United States and used it to keep white folks "in their place."

Forcing whitey to apologize shows black power and clout. Whites can never force blacks to apologize because that would constitute a lynching.

What exactly should they apologize for? "We're sorry that we did all the work on your plantations so you could make money?" "We're sorry that you put laws in place that dictated where we could go?"


"Whites are monitored, pestered, and punished for preposterous reasons--for a look, for an innocent word, for wearing a T-shirt, for expressing a plausible argument--but blacks can say almost anything with perfect impunity."[5]

I'm not monitored or punished. Probably because I've never done anything that would require those things.

"In discussions of race between black people and white people the conscious black person is always right; is always the ultimate authority on questions having to do with race and racism; must always be regarded as the ‘injured party,’ or the oppressed. . . . [Whites] cannot possibly be expected to be objective about questions of race."[6]

In discussions of race, when's the last time whites were actually the aggrieved party?

Blacks may work for explicitly racial goals but whites may not.

Which explicity racial goals do you want to work for? Getting white people elected to office? Getting whites the right to vote? Getting more white people into management? Please enlighten us on what explicity racial goals you'd like to work for.

Blacks are permitted to notice race. Whites are not
.

Strangely, if you substituted "black" and "white" in there with "conservative" and "liberal" that would be the rule here.

"It is quite acceptable for either party to explicitly go after the black, Hispanic, or even the Jewish vote. In fact both parties gain an indispensable moral authority by doing so. But it is absolutely verboten for either party, or any white candidate, to appeal to whites as a racial identity group. Racial identity is simply forbidden to whites in America and across the entire Western world. Black children today are hammered with the idea of racial identity and pride, yet racial pride in whites constitutes a grave evil. Say 'I'm white and I'm proud' and you are a National Socialist."[7]

So no party goes after the white vote? Think about what you said.


It can be publicly admitted that blacks are superior to whites in certain pursuits (i.e. basketball). It can never be publicly admitted that whites are superior to blacks in other pursuits (i.e. winning Nobel prizes in science).

Blacks that are better at basketball do get more opportunities than whites that aren't. Also, there are many white pro basketballers who get a roster spot that are better than some black players. That really doesn't sound racist to me.

Would you like to assert that blacks are somehow inferior in science? I'm not stopping you.
 
I think the OP is talking about things like a white person is not thought to be a their when in a small store but a black person is.

is that white privilege really?

Did the store owner open his doors with the notion that all white customers are honest and blacks are not, or did experience change how he ran his store?

There are any number of commonalities of customers that could be used to determine honesty. The fact that color of skin is seemingly an appropriate one to find as a commonality means there is still discrepancy in our system.
 
Yeah,
I need to let that cop that stopped me, a couple of weeks ago, know that he wasn't supposed to do that. :lol:



You had your chance but you blew it.

If you would have asked him if he didn't notice that you're white, I'm sure that he would have let you go with a warning. :roll:
 
This phenomenon has no racial boundaries in my experience. Invariably, when I finally get around these idiots, they are texting.

The texters are a different breed altogether. They're in the "asshole race" (you didn't even know it exists, but it does).

I don't care if I get called a name, but Asian women are - generally speaking - the worst drivers in the history of the world.
 
Is There Such a Thing as "White Privilege"?

As Wiki defines it: "White privilege (or white skin privilege) is a term for societal privileges that benefit white people beyond what is commonly experienced by non-white people in the same social, political, or economic circumstances" White privilege - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


Ask Ethan Couch

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Does your study compare in both cases 2 parent families or single parents?

I know that the popular meme is that blacks are all poor because they don't marry to have children, but that's nonsense. The idea that two people who are both very poor are somehow going to be less poor through because of a marriage ceremony is absurd. No amount of marriages (which completely ignores whether or not any of the people involved actually want to be married to one another) is going to alter this 1 to 5 statistic. Please put this tired meme in the trash where it belongs.
 
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