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Is There Such a Thing as "White Privilege"?

Is there such a thing as White Privilege?

  • Yes

    Votes: 50 59.5%

  • No

    Votes: 34 40.5%
  • Total voters
    84
Mason66 said:
I would guess gang members. Drive through some sections of LA and you can get shot just for being there.

Is that something you do not know?
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Well if that is the case then he is false because car jacking has nothing to do with race. I known many Blacks and Hispanics that got car jacked. Car jacking has nothing to do with race. It has everything to do with what type of car you are driving.
 
polgara said:
Greetings, tres borrachos. :2wave:

Once. I promised the fates if they would just let me get out of Boston alive, I would never again visit there! I've kept my word! :mrgreen:

Love your Halloween avatar! :thumbs:
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Thanks Pol! She's the new me. :mrgreen:
 
HogWash said:
So does BLACK privilege. You see, while we are working those lazy slugs are sitting on their fat asses letting the crackers pay for their very existence.
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Not hardly.
 
countryboy said:
We don't need to wait. The tea party has never been a race based organization, and you know it. But please, don't let that stop you from spreading disinformation.
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All I have to say is watch the participation level decrease when President Black Dynamite leaves office. Even if the next President is a Democrat.
 
tres borrachos said:
Thanks Pol! She's the new me. :mrgreen:
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:lamo: One Halloween years ago, I dressed as a witch, complete with hideous mask, and had a block of dry ice in a big kettle on the porch making the more delightful clouds of white "smoky" vapor when I added water and stirred! Coooool, and fun! The beggars loved it!
 
rcart76 said:
All I have to say is watch the participation level decrease when President Black Dynamite leaves office. Even if the next President is a Democrat.
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We already know you are intent on spreading disinformation.

The tea party rails against white GOP establishment members just as much as Obama. On what do you base your assumptions on?
 
countryboy said:
We already know you are intent on spreading disinformation.

The tea party rails against white GOP establishment members just as much as Obama. On what do you base your assumptions on?
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If this was true, the movement would have been larger under GWB. You guys didn't wait after Obama was sworn in before gathering steam. The fact is the GOP establishment members and the Koch Brothers saw opportunity and help fuel the growth.
 
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Ockham said:
I think you meant "Democrat" unless you've been living under a rock for the past 6 years.
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Depends on who you ask. The poster blaming Obama...well, I'm going to bet that for him it's only wrong if a Dem does it.
 
tres borrachos said:
You could be. Or you could be nuts. Did you ever drive behind a driver from Massachusetts?:shock:
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Almost as bad as Connecticut. Holy shizit. When I lived in Western Mass, you dreaded the drive to Windsor Locks for the airport. Crazier than...well everything.

Even Connecticut is child's play compared to Moscow. Seriously.
 
rcart76 said:
All I have to say is watch the participation level decrease when President Black Dynamite leaves office. Even if the next President is a Democrat.
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Wait - you seriously believe the Tea Party movement is racist? Seriously?

Stop, just stop. I'm no major fan of the TP but to believe they are what they are because of racism is just plain silly. Was the reason they targeted Eric Cantor and Thad Cochran because they forgot they were only supposed to oppose black people?
 
PirateMk1 said:
No two people are alike and so the we can say that inevitably some people are going to have to work harder to get to the same position, even people of the same color and breeding. QED ugly vs pretty, fat vs skinny, ect. Therefore being a particular color is simply part of a very complicated equation of being human and how easy it is for that particular human can do specific things. "Privilege" is an excuse, nothing more, exactly akin to the dog ate my homework.
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Just like we can admit through evidence that there is a societal bias toward those that are more attractive, we can admit that there is a bias for race and anything else. If people use it as an excuse to not work hard, that's on them to deal with. That being said, it's not an excuse for me to readily offer up the idea that I had to work quite a bit harder to get where I am today than those without my difference. My first diagnosis was mental retardation and my parents were flat out told I will not do a small amount of what you normal people get to do. That was when I was 4 years old. Bing. No college, no romantic relationships, no independent life. That was the expectation level from people of authority and my life started to be tailored for that purpose. Now, I can see what my own privilege accorded me. I have a sibling who doesn't get to do a lot of the stuff I take for granted, is treated differently by others simply for being who he is, and won't be able to do when I eventually create my own family.

You have your accomplishments just like I do, but I have to overcome a great deal to get to the same place.
 
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rocket88 said:
Almost as bad as Connecticut. Holy shizit. When I lived in Western Mass, you dreaded the drive to Windsor Locks for the airport. Crazier than...well everything.

Even Connecticut is child's play compared to Moscow. Seriously.
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You take your life into your hands driving anywhere near Holyoke & Springfield on down to Bradley. You should see them now. They all text too. :shock:
 
tres borrachos said:
Wait - you seriously believe the Tea Party movement is racist? Seriously?

Stop, just stop. I'm no major fan of the TP but to believe they are what they are because of racism is just plain silly. Was the reason they targeted Eric Cantor and Thad Cochran because they forgot they were only supposed to oppose black people?
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"The KKK can't be racist. They hate catholics too."
 
Unrepresented said:
"The KKK can't be racist. They hate catholics too."
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There may be a point to your post as it relates to mine that you quoted but I can't see it, and I'm sure I don't want to go down the road. So, um, thanks for the quote, I guess.
 
tres borrachos said:
There may be a point to your post as it relates to mine that you quoted but I can't see it, and I'm sure I don't want to go down the road. So, um, thanks for the quote, I guess.
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Targeting groups of your own "race" doesn't absolve you of racism.
 
rcart76 said:
If this was true, the movement would have been larger under GWB. You guys didn't wait after Obama was sworn in before gathering steam. The fact is the GOP establishment members and the Koch Brothers saw opportunity and help fuel the growth.
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That is simply not true. The tea party movement began as a wholly grass roots movement. Even if Obama was an impetus, it certainly wasn't because of his race, it was because of his Marxism. But if it makes you feel better to think that, by all means, perpetuate the lie.

How can you, with a straight face, criticize the movement for accepting money from rich donors? Are you saying leftist movements don't do the same?
 
Unrepresented said:
Catholics were typically not black.
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I'm going to drop this because again, what you said isn't relevant to my post. The KKK and Catholics aren't in the same conversation as the Tea Party going after white politicians when the suggestion was made that they only formed because Obama was black, and once he leaves office, they will in essence fade away.
 
a351 said:
Sure. In general, the ethnic groups that make up the majority in any given society enjoy advantages over minorities. Most who take issue with the idea have a gross misunderstanding of the concept, and/or are simply in denial.
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Strange thing is I've never had anything like affirmative action used to benefit me. What I also find interesting about programs like AA is that they are saying it's OK to consider race if it benefits minorities yet using race to deny them is wrong. Since the common thread either way is race, how can it be OK in one situation and wrong in the other is the characteristic being used hadn't changed?
 
countryboy said:
That is simply not true. The tea party movement began as a wholly grass roots movement. Even if Obama was an impetus, it certainly wasn't because of his race, it was because of his Marxism. But if it makes you feel better to think that, by all means, perpetuate the lie.

How can you, with a straight face, criticize the movement for accepting money from rich donors? Are you saying leftist movements don't do the same?
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One only has to look at Harry Reid's PAC to know that the left gets just as much donor money from the "rich" as the right does.
 
reinoe said:
The thing about White Priviledge is that someone benefits from it so unconsciously that they often ignore it.

It can be the difference between being stopped but let off with a warning vs being stopped and given a ticket.

It can be the difference between getting a job and not getting a job.

It can be the difference between someone not calling the police while you open carry and someone calling the police and lying about your actions while you open carry.

The fact that minorities get harsher sentences for drug related charges and get convictions at higher rates despite not using drugs at a higher rate is proof that such a phenomenon exists.
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"It can be the difference between getting a job and not getting a job."

Tell that to the white folks not given a job because a program like Affirmative Action was used race to benefit a lesser qualified minority over a more qualified individual.
 
tres borrachos said:
I'm going to drop this because again, what you said isn't relevant to my post. The KKK and Catholics aren't in the same conversation as the Tea Party going after white politicians when the suggestion was made that they only formed because Obama was black, and once he leaves office, they will in essence fade away.
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You're apparently new to analogies. It's okay. They're not for everyone.
 
Interesting logic (or lack thereof), which we see far too much in these parts

Rocket told us of a suburb where being black was a crime

rocket88 said:
Depends on where you are, but yes. There's a suburb of Buffalo (which I won't name) where "Driving While Black" is almost certainly a crime.
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for which we get a response of:

HogWash said:
Gosh, I did NOT know that driving while white exempted one from being stopped by the cops. You learn something new every day.
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...which, appears to be something to the effect of ".... therefore, being white means (its not a crime and thus) exempts you from being stopped..."

No where in the first comment was anything being said about whites, yet someone chose to respond without really considering what was said...... It is hogwash, really.
 
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