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cops

What is your opinion of cops

  • I lean left and think most cops are good

    Votes: 15 34.1%

  • I lean left and think most cops are bad

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • I lean right and think most cops are good

    Votes: 23 52.3%

  • I lean right and think most cops are bad

    Votes: 6 13.6%
  • Total voters
    44
Liberal.

My personal experiences with the police has been 75% good, 25% bad, but I am not readily identifiable as a minority or a member of a subculture. When I had a old, banged-up car I used to get stopped many times in one particularly affluent community, but I was let go once they decided I was "acceptable."

Because we have many bad laws regarding victimless crimes, especially drug laws, many good people would never work in law enforcement. Historically, law enforcement has also been social class and race privilege enforcement Those that do work in LE may be politically unaware or feel that they can work around the bad laws. Others embrace the culture and class/race wars and they are the ones who cause problems in many communities. As long as that continues there will always be police-community clashes. I generally I feel about the police the way I feel about flies, they are necessary for the ecosystem, but often annoying on a personal level.
 
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Police chief admits to sexually assaulting unconscious woman, gets fine and probation.
Nice to have friends in the right places.

Police Chief Admits to Sexually Assaulting Unconscious Woman on 911 Call, Won’t See 1 Day in Jail | The Free Thought Project

The higher standard we expect from police should mean receiving the max sentence and the max fine. Isn't great he isn't a felon so he gets to keep his guns too? An admitted rapist can own guns. AMERICA **** YEAH.

Justice in the USA is FUBAR.
 


Still not serving time.

McCloskey was instantly paralyzed from the waist down although he retained feeling in his lower extremities. His motorcycle fell on him exhaust side down and as his hot exhaust pipes burned through his leg McCloskey begged White and Sargent to pull the bike off him. After Snyder ran to help McCloskey he asked White and Sargent to help him get the 600 pound motorcycle off the 200 pound man. White replied, “He’s your friend. You get the bike off of him.” McCloskey’s burns caused nerve damage and he remains in constant pain.
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What you can't tell from the video is that the sirens are still active on the cruiser. McClosky couldn't hear anything. Also note that from the time the lights come on until they stop, it takes about 10 seconds.

This is the kind of garbage that the book should thrown at. And not have the 'brotherhood' rally around this ****nut.
 


Honest cops ...

Another 'he was reaching for my gun' POS.

Thanks goodness for CCTV and dashcams and POV cameras (as long as they don't have mysterious malfunctions at convenient for police moments)

Officer's lie discovered days after and yet the unarmed black man still served 4 months in jail.

Story BEFORE the video was oncovered"

BRENTWOOD, MD (CBSDC) – The Prince George’s County Police Department’s Special Investigative Response Team (SIRT) is investigating a police-involved shooting that occurred in Brentwood, Maryland, last night.

On February 3rd, around 9:40 PM, detectives from the District I Robbery Suppression Team (RST) were working an assignment near Rhode Island Avenue and 38th Street. At one point detectives saw two individuals, one wearing a mask, enter the Lowest Price Gas convenience store located in the 3800 block of Rhode Island Avenue. Believing that the two suspects were about to commit a robbery, RST detectives confronted the suspects.

One of the suspects, later identified as Ryan Dorm of Cottage City, swung at an officer and began to flee. The 13-year police veteran caught up to the Dorm after a brief foot chase. According to police, Dorm began to reach for the officer’s firearm. Fearing that the suspect was attempting to take control of his gun, the officer fired his weapon at the suspect and made the arrest. No injuries were reported as a result of the shooting.

Dorm has been charged with attempted second degree assault and attempt to disarm a law enforcement officer. He remains in custody at the Department of Corrections in Upper Marlboro.

The involved officer, has been placed on administrative leave in accordance with departmental policy.
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Prince George’s County Police Investigate Police-Involved Shooting In Brentwood, Officer On Administrative Leave « CBS DC

Story AFTER the video
A Prince George's County Police officer has been suspended after surveillance video contradicted his version of events, stemming from a police-involved shooting in Brentwood on Feb 3, sources tell ABC7 News.

Paula Dorm's 19-year-old son Ryan has been locked up since last Friday when he was very nearly shot by Prince Georges County Police.

Police claimed that Ryan assaulted an officer, ran and then reached for an officer's gun, causing the officer to fire. Ryan was charged with resisting arrest and assault.

But now police admit a surveillance video shows that the officers involved lied about large portions of that story.

It all began when two Prince George's County detectives were in the area of Rhode Island Avenue and 38th Street on the lookout for robbers. They spotted Ryan and a friend--one allegedly wearing a mask--go into the Lowest Price Gas convenience store in the 3800 block of Rhode Island Avenue. Fearing that a crime was about to occur, the officers approached and were buzzed into the locked store by the attendant.

A police report said that Ryan Dorm swung at an officer and began to flee. The officer caught the man after a brief foot pursuit. The man then tried to reach for the officer's gun. Fearing that the man was trying to take his gun, the officer fired his gun at the man.

Through his lawyer, Ryan tells ABC7 that he walked out and across the street because he didn't want any trouble.

According to sources, the newly found security video supports Ryan's claim that Cpl. Donald Taylor tackled him from behind, punched him in the back and then hit him in the head with his gun, which accidentally fired.

On Monday, the Police Inspector General announced the two officers involved have been suspended and Ryan's charges will be changed.

As of Tuesday afternoon, Ryan's lawyer said his client remains locked up and the charges haven't changed.

"My client didn't commit any crimes," said Ryan's lawyer. "He was assaulted. Right now he's being illegally detained and every day, every hour my client is incarcerated illegally, they're gonna pay for that."

No one was injured in the incident.

Taylor is a 13-year veteran of the force.
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Brentwood police-involved shooting: Corporal Donald Taylor suspended | WJLA.com

when did they start lowering the standards again?
 
Once again another poll where you can not vote because what is right or left is not defined clearly, and then if you lean neither liberal or conservative you can not participate.

So, only a comment...When home last December one of the best lawyers in Alabama and quite conservative told me to never talk to police, it will indeed be always used against you. Nothing you say will matter to them except to make a case against you.

Also, looking from my place of work overseas, and reading of all the crimes being committed by police, and the actions that are now supposedly lawful as they militarize, I can only shake my head.

In short, I think our country is being beseiged, and it sure doesn't look like it is from terrorists abroad.
 
Crosscheck said:
You hear someone bashing in car windows in your neighborhood and there is nothing makes you more happy than seeing a police car coming down that street. You are driving down a stretch of road and see a police car ahead and immediately you take your foot off the gas pedal and try to avoid eye contact with him.

I don't know of any other profession where one can get such mixed reactions from coming into contact with. It is a tough job and luckily they are often the buffer between you and the scum in our society.

When someone sees a soldier in an airport people will go up and thank him for his service to our country. I have never seen anyone go up to a policeman and thank him for his service.
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I don't need a buffer. My family never has. I find the whole notion of requiring one absurd. I don't fear criminals, they should fear me. The police are there to document what happened when its done over, and on very rare occasion the Calvary to back us up.
 
I wonder if one solution to the ego complex, at least in some cases, is periodic mandatory time off. That'd make them experience being a regular citizen again.

Budget cuts in this state have made it quite difficult to become a cop these days. I doubt that many would go thru that process just to beat up a rodney king, but over time the nature of the job can get to anyone.
 
American said:
Go ahead and spit it out.
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I really don't understand the defensiveness over the fact that it's mainly male cops caught on camera abusing their authority.
 
herenow1 said:
I really don't understand the defensiveness over the fact that it's mainly male cops caught on camera abusing their authority.
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Keep dancing and avoiding the question.
 
lifeisshort said:
I'm curious what peoples views are on cops and if their is any correlation between their politics and their opinion on this. I'm pretty conservative for the most part and have always given the benefit of the doubt to the cop but I have to admit that lately there seems to be a rash of bad shootings where I really have to question the cops judgment. I personally know a couple of guys that recently became cops that when I found out it made me exclaim WTF? These guys were both losers in life that couldn't hold a job and now in their 30s they are cops. It makes me wonder if it has become harder to get people that want to go into this line of work. Regardless of that when push comes to shove I tend to believe the cops version until the evidence all comes in.
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Most cops are good, but all are not and good cops stick up for bad cops. Its why we have to be distrustful of the entire system.
 
I think the problem is, is that their job is essentially to be a**holes....
Their job is more to uphold the law than it is to just help people.... I think it should be more of the later. They should be paying more attention to who is actually being dangerous or stupid.
Like... first and foremost... their job philosophy should be to help and protect the community..... like if someone has a popped tire, help them change their tire, Idk..
 
There are some bad cops but most are good and they have a tough job......You need to give them some slack.
 
sawdust said:
There are thousands if not hundreds of thousands of cops in the country. Most are good some are bad. That's life. I've personally never had a bad interaction with one, doesn't mean that it doesn't happen.
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There is something like 35,000 cops in New York alone...
 
Navy Pride said:
There are some bad cops but most are good and they have a tough job......You need to give them some slack.
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Not when they are pepper spraying, hitting, tazing and shooting innocent people...
 
celticwar17 said:
I think the problem is, is that their job is essentially to be a**holes....
Their job is more to uphold the law than it is to just help people.... I think it should be more of the later. They should be paying more attention to who is actually being dangerous or stupid.
Like... first and foremost... their job philosophy should be to help and protect the community..... like if someone has a popped tire, help them change their tire, Idk..
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That is just it... they should be helping more because as it is now if I saw one there is no way I would flag the cop down to help because they would probably go out of their way to find something wrong with my car or tire and ticket me... or worse, attempt to use force to control me for some reason and then violate my rights.
 
Ikari said:
Most cops are good, but all are not and good cops stick up for bad cops. Its why we have to be distrustful of the entire system.
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Right... how many of these videos do we see where some cop is being abusive and the other cops come up and do nothing about it? Most to all of them, it seems.
 
Crosscheck said:
When someone sees a soldier in an airport people will go up and thank him for his service to our country. I have never seen anyone go up to a policeman and thank him for his service.
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I have a couple of times and twice I paid for cops lunches when they came into a diner I was eating at...
 
Based on what my sister has told me, I would agree. I think they also get kind of lazy and careless, and don't want to put up with BS anymore. They want to put the cuffs on somebody, end the situation, and let the legal system sort them out rather than get personally involved with the people. My sister has a few stories where a careless partner lacks on protocols and puts a partner in danger, usually because they want to sit on their butt and/or think it's just business as usual and nothing is going to happen.

Protocols are there for a reason though.




herenow1 said:
Unfortunately bc of the nature of the job, I feel many start off as good people, but then for whatever reason they change.

It's due to either;

Becoming jaded

Acquiring a superiority complex

Only hanging out with other cops who share their sane mentality

It's interesting that we don't hear about women LEO's being trigger happy, or too aggressive. Wonder why that is!?
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Gathomas88 said:
I don't have anything against cops. Hell! There's a good chance that I might wind up as one them if the military doesn't pan out.

I can't say that I've had any particularly poor experiences with them either. I actually get off more often than not.

However, I will say that I occasionally find our country's approach to law enforcement to be rather counter-productive and overly draconian in general. A lot of cops these days are basically armed to the teeth, and trained to "shoot first and ask questions later" with an attitude to match.

For that reason, you should, at the very least, be wary of them.

Do the wrong thing around the wrong cop in the wrong mood, and you might very well wind up dead.
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Sorry, but cops are in no way shape or form trained to shoot first and ask questions later.

Im a fed and have been to both local and federal academies. Cops are trained to react to escalation of force.

No gun with hands in the field interview position.

Hands up in a defensive position

Hands on non lethal use of force

Finally lethal force

If the situation dictates, escalate straight to lethal. The situation that would justify such a measure is a totality of circumstances

Alone, multiple suspects?
Alone with a huge suspect?
Weapons present?
Verbal threats?
Lighting?
How far away is backup?
Are you being attacked?

All things are fluid.

Im also a veteran, soldiers are trained to kill. Officers are trained to stop the threat
 
Sabanist said:
Im also a veteran, soldiers are trained to kill. Officers are trained to stop the threat
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Yes. By killing it, by and large. :lol:

I've seen plenty of incidents where cops didn't have to shoot their suspect, but did so anyway, simply because it was more expedient for them.

The reason for that does ultimately boil down to the fact that they are explicitly trained to be overly-reliant upon their firearms rather than look to non-lethal alternatives.
 
Gathomas88 said:
Yes. By killing it, by and large. :lol:

I've seen plenty of incidents where cops didn't have to shoot their suspect, but did so anyway, simply because it was more expedient for them.

The reason for that does ultimately boil down to the fact that they are explicitly trained to be overly-reliant upon their firearms rather than look to non-lethal alternatives.
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You are incorrect regarding the "explicit" training

Define plenty of incidents. 10? Do you know how many police encounters happen everyday and no firearm is ever used?
 
SayMyName said:
Once again another poll where you can not vote because what is right or left is not defined clearly, and then if you lean neither liberal or conservative you can not participate.

So, only a comment...When home last December one of the best lawyers in Alabama and quite conservative told me to never talk to police, it will indeed be always used against you. Nothing you say will matter to them except to make a case against you.

Also, looking from my place of work overseas, and reading of all the crimes being committed by police, and the actions that are now supposedly lawful as they militarize, I can only shake my head.

In short, I think our country is being beseiged, and it sure doesn't look like it is from terrorists abroad.
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No kidding, if you committed a crime, you think the cops should just let it slide because you were honest?

Come on.
 
Gathomas88 said:
Yes. By killing it, by and large. :lol:

I've seen plenty of incidents where cops didn't have to shoot their suspect, but did so anyway, simply because it was more expedient for them.

The reason for that does ultimately boil down to the fact that they are explicitly trained to be overly-reliant upon their firearms rather than look to non-lethal alternatives.
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Your last paragraph needs documentation unless it is just opinion
 
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