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cops

What is your opinion of cops

  • I lean left and think most cops are good

    Votes: 15 34.1%

  • I lean left and think most cops are bad

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • I lean right and think most cops are good

    Votes: 23 52.3%

  • I lean right and think most cops are bad

    Votes: 6 13.6%
  • Total voters
    44
SocialDemocrat said:
The question is flawed because I have no idea what you mean by "most cops are good/bad." I'm not going to say that cops are inherently bad. A police force is a societal necessity and a sweeping statement claiming everyone in a certain field is corrupted would be heavily misguided.

At the same time, serious reforms are needed to reduce police brutality and prevent the United States from becoming a police state. I do think that the police are a bit too restrictive on some trivial issues. For example, in regards to speeding or using a phone while driving, I do believe that these should be illegal, but some of the speed traps set up by police cars can be irrational.

So I didn't vote, because I don't consider myself pro-police or anti-police.
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Your answer is flawed. I'm putting you in the I lean left and most cops are bad column.
 
I think cops are a lot like lawyers. They start out altruistic, wanting to save the world, and they end up jaded, and bitter. Most cops that I've had dealings with were very cocky. Hell, my husband was a cop for years and told me that yes, cops are cocky because they can be. There's so much power that goes along with being a police officer that it's hard not to let it go to your head.

Some of them are able to handle that power, and tamp it down, and others are not.
 
Woman Spends A Month In Jail After Cops Mistake SpaghettiOs For Meth


How can the police justify using a field test that tests positive for Spaghettios?
Are all their fields tests or dog searches this appallingly wrong? Makes you wonder, doesn't it? IIRC they don't even keep stats on the effectiveness of these tools. I will bet if they did, the stats would show how ineffectual the really are.
Field tests, however, can often be incorrect, as was evidenced in a 2013 case in which a white brick that field-tested positive for cocaine ended up just being homemade soap.
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The kicker is that this lady was considering a plea deal to get out of jail. She was willing to be branded a felon just to get out of jail. WTF!

Other issues:
why is a passenger of a traffic stop being searched?
I bet she looked 'nervous'.
 
Poll isn't very good at nuances so I'll skip that, but to answer the question as concisely as possible:

A) I try and avoid cops whenever possible.
B) It seems like a very unpleasant occupation.
 
Can't vote in the poll, as I lean neither right nor left.

To answer your question, though - there are good and bad eggs in all professions. I like good eggs and hate bad eggs.

My friend and neighbor is a Maine State Trooper - real great guy, whom I would do anything for and would trust with my life. Most cops in my area, from my experience, are good guys.

Now, if I were to venture into a big city, I would be more suspicious. My brother, for instance, was once lost in a big city here in the states (he was just looking for a restaurant and got sidetracked - him and his wife). He got pulled over by some jerk, just for seeming out of place - he was detained and searched for drugs (read: harassed and bullied). The mentality of the said ***hole I speak of was, "Oh, no, you are lying 'bout looking for a restaurant. You are here to buy drugs." Of course, my brother wasn't and his lawyer took care of it.

There are ****heads in every profession, I'm afraid. Most cops are good (again, from my experience).
 
Serb cops were very brutal and discriminated Albanians in Dardania. This was one added reason to be free from their abuse of power prior to the all out war in 1999. Among KLA's most medially propagated targets were Serbian bad cops.
 
I lean right and think most of them are good. There are some bad apples who are arrogant, on power trips, and are complete assholes who I wouldn't trust to do the right thing. But being a woman with 3 kids and a husband who travels a lot, I for one am damn glad they exist on the other side of a 911 call.
 
tres borrachos said:
I lean right and think most of them are good. There are some bad apples who are arrogant, on power trips, and are complete assholes who I wouldn't trust to do the right thing. But being a woman with 3 kids and a husband who travels a lot, I for one am damn glad they exist on the other side of a 911 call.
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Oregon woman raped after police refuse to send out response unit - The Commentator

Warren v. District of Columbia - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Don't place too too much hope in the police.

I wish police would hold themselves to a higher standard of conduct instead of hiding behind the justice system.
 
I dont lean and i think most cops are good
 
Diversity or Safety? Justice Dept. Orders Lower Standards for Police Exam
PJ Media » Diversity or Safety? Justice Dept. Orders Lower Standards for Police Exam

DOJ Pressured City of Dayton to Lower Testing Standards for Police Recruits to Accommodate Minority Candidates - Judicial Watch

HR Tests - Recruitment, assessment, and personnel selection: Police depts relax hiring standards

"We should never lower the standards to allow a subpar police officer to get on this police department,"
Dallas Police Assoc. claims testing standards were lowered for r - Dallas News | myFOXdfw.com

Are hiring standards being lowered???

Police Chief Magazine - View Article

Pennsylvania state police defend fitness test | Local News - WTAE Home

Recruiting the next generation of police officers is probably one of the most important functions for human resources professionals and police leaders in any department. Prior to 2009, police agencies across the nation had experienced a dramatic decrease in the number of qualified police applicants (Whetstone, Reed, & Turner, 2006). Chicago Police Department, like others, began lowering their standards for employment to allow younger, less educated officers into their recruitment pool while paying them higher starting salaries
Recruiting the 21st Century police officer

The Roots of Corruption: Part 3 -- Lowering the Bar
The Roots of Corruption: Part 3 -- Lowering the Bar — The Desire Terrorist — Crime Library

Lower standards for cops mean more police shootings
The Marietta Daily Journal - Lower standards for cops mean more police shootings
 
lifeisshort said:
That is why I give the benefit of the doubt to the cop until or unless evidence proves otherwise. These guys have a tough job with a stress level I can't imagine.
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Police officers are among the most overweight employees in the nation. More overweight than people who work in call centers i.e. people who literally sit and snack all day. For cops to be more overweight than them takes a special kind of lazy.
 
I don't trust any LEO's at all. There are millions of police interactions each day in the US. There are also many interactions that have been video recorded with the people taking the videos being treated like criminals. Why would anyone trust a person who can lie to your face and not be held accountable for said lie? Granted they have dangerous jobs and have to deal with dangerous people but they are the ones who chose their careers. I just feel that they think because they have a badge that they have more rights than we do. FTP.
 
SocialDemocrat said:
The idea that opposing police brutality makes me "anti-cop" certainly is lol worthy.
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That's generally how it works though. If you resist being arrested then you deserve to be beaten for obstructing the police.
 
reinoe said:
That's generally how it works though. If you resist being arrested then you deserve to be beaten for obstructing the police.
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You assume that all police brutality is from resisting arrest. Even if that were true, the precedent that the police is always right and the citizen is always wrong is frightening.
 
APACHERAT said:
Diversity or Safety? Justice Dept. Orders Lower Standards for Police Exam
PJ Media » Diversity or Safety? Justice Dept. Orders Lower Standards for Police Exam

DOJ Pressured City of Dayton to Lower Testing Standards for Police Recruits to Accommodate Minority Candidates - Judicial Watch

HR Tests - Recruitment, assessment, and personnel selection: Police depts relax hiring standards

"We should never lower the standards to allow a subpar police officer to get on this police department,"
Dallas Police Assoc. claims testing standards were lowered for r - Dallas News | myFOXdfw.com

Are hiring standards being lowered???

Police Chief Magazine - View Article

Pennsylvania state police defend fitness test | Local News - WTAE Home

Recruiting the next generation of police officers is probably one of the most important functions for human resources professionals and police leaders in any department. Prior to 2009, police agencies across the nation had experienced a dramatic decrease in the number of qualified police applicants (Whetstone, Reed, & Turner, 2006). Chicago Police Department, like others, began lowering their standards for employment to allow younger, less educated officers into their recruitment pool while paying them higher starting salaries
Recruiting the 21st Century police officer

The Roots of Corruption: Part 3 -- Lowering the Bar
The Roots of Corruption: Part 3 -- Lowering the Bar — The Desire Terrorist — Crime Library

Lower standards for cops mean more police shootings
The Marietta Daily Journal - Lower standards for cops mean more police shootings
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So I wasn't imagining things. standards have been lowered.
 
herenow1 said:
Unfortunately bc of the nature of the job, I feel many start off as good people, but then for whatever reason they change.

It's due to either;

Becoming jaded

Acquiring a superiority complex

Only hanging out with other cops who share their sane mentality

It's interesting that we don't hear about women LEO's being trigger happy, or too aggressive. Wonder why that is!?
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Are you implying something?
 
clownboy said:
:lamo Haven't been around women much there have ya?
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I've been around women, but haven't been assaulted by any.

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I'm neutral about cops in general.
 
lifeisshort said:
I'm curious what peoples views are on cops and if their is any correlation between their politics and their opinion on this. I'm pretty conservative for the most part and have always given the benefit of the doubt to the cop but I have to admit that lately there seems to be a rash of bad shootings where I really have to question the cops judgment. I personally know a couple of guys that recently became cops that when I found out it made me exclaim WTF? These guys were both losers in life that couldn't hold a job and now in their 30s they are cops. It makes me wonder if it has become harder to get people that want to go into this line of work. Regardless of that when push comes to shove I tend to believe the cops version until the evidence all comes in.
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I vote Good but Here's the qualifier... Their training is bad. In an effort to provide for police safety, their tactics have become more authoritarian.
 
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