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What is it called if you got fired and later you kill your former co-workers?

What is it called if you got fired and later you kill your former co-workers?

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What is it called if you got fired and later you kill your former co-workers?

Going Postal I.E. Work-place violence
Terrorist attack
A little of both
other
Apparently some of the talk show pundits seem to think getting fired and later returning to your former place of employment to kill your former co-workers is terrorism. Most people would call that going postal or work place violence, not terrorist. Getting pissed off because you lost your job as far as I know are not one of the reasons a terrorist murders someone.
 
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Terrorism is usually defined as killing large amounts of people in an attempt scare the **** out of them as a means to push a certain political agenda. Going full nutjob on your former coworkers is just workplace violence.
 
jamesrage said:
What is it called if you got fired and later you kill your former co-workers?

Going Postal I.E. Work-place violence
Terrorist attack
A little of both
other
Apparently some of the talk show pundits seem to think getting fired and later returning to your former place of employment to kill your former co-workers is terrorism. Most people would call that going postal or work place violence, not terrorist. Getting pissed off because you lost your job as far as I know are not one of the reasons a terrorist murders someone.
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INSANITY usually covers that like a blanket.
 
TeleKat said:
Terrorism is usually defined as killing large amounts of people in an attempt scare the **** out of them as a means to push a certain political agenda. Going full nutjob on your former coworkers is just workplace violence.
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Really? So, when jihadists behead a single person, it's not terrorism?
 
countryboy said:
Really? So, when jihadists behead a single person, it's not terrorism?
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Getting upset and going nuts because you lost your job is not something terrorists murder people for.
 
jamesrage said:
Getting upset and going nuts because you lost your job is not something terrorists murder people for.
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That's not what I asked.

I heard the guy was suspended, not fired. Is that inaccurate? I also heard he is a convert to Islam. Is that inaccurate? Is beheading a victim in any way unusual? Do you not think it appropriate to investigate this incident thoroughly? Has the investigation been completed? Why are libs so reluctant to consider the possibility that this assailant might be a jihadi?
 
countryboy said:
That's not what I asked.

I heard the guy was suspended, not fired. Is that inaccurate? I also heard he is a convert to Islam. Is that inaccurate? Is beheading a victim in any way unusual? Do you not think it appropriate to investigate this incident thoroughly? Has the investigation been completed? Why are libs so reluctant to consider the possibility that this assailant might be a jihadi?
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To paraphrase the great political mind of Archie Bunker:

Would it make you feel better, countryboy, if they was pushed out of windows?
 
Unrepresented said:
To paraphrase the great political mind of Archie Bunker:

Would it make you feel better, countryboy, if they was pushed out of windows?
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I don't speak liberal caricature of a bigot-ese. Could you please just say what you mean?
 
countryboy said:
I don't speak liberal caricature of a bigot-ese. Could you please just say what you mean?
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Murder is murder. It doesn't really matter what form it is in, the outcome is the same.
 
Unrepresented said:
Murder is murder. It doesn't really matter what form it is in, the outcome is the same.
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Yes, it matters. Some of us actually think facts are important. I know, weird huh?
 
Murder.

Don't we lose something when we make distinctions in a crime? The murdered person is just as dead whether it was a result of terrorism, work-place violence, hate crime, class warfare, victimhood, etc. A life was taken-that should be enough. There are few excuses for taking a life and in this case none of those excuses apply.
 
countryboy said:
Yes, it matters. Some of us actually think facts are important. I know, weird huh?
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Do the number of teeth he had factor in? What was his favorite color as a child? If given a choice between walks on the beach and a blockbuster night, which would he choose? Please investigate these facts. They're clearly important as you've noted.
 
Unrepresented said:
Do the number of teeth he had factor in? What was his favorite color as a child? If given a choice between walks on the beach and a blockbuster night, which would he choose? Please investigate these facts. They're clearly important as you've noted.
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Clearly you aren't interested in having a serious discussion on the matter. Have a nice day.
 
TeleKat said:
Terrorism is usually defined as killing large amounts of people in an attempt scare the **** out of them as a means to push a certain political agenda. Going full nutjob on your former coworkers is just workplace violence.
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This. We need to be a little more selective of what we label terrorism, or else one day the word will devour every crime there is and we'll all end up in Guantanamo because our dogs crapped on the neighbor's lawn.
 
Not sure if anyone cares, but when I worked in HR, I had to take training on workplace killings.

For the most part, these were the results of cumulative failures...work, domestic, etc. Sometimes they go back to the last place that fired them, but they can also go back to much more previous employers whom the blame for the start of 'it all.' The beginning of their downward slide.

It was pretty fascinating. It's the 'grownup' version of the losers that shoot up their highschools really.
 
It really depends on the situation.
 
Cardinal said:
This. We need to be a little more selective of what we label terrorism, or else one day the word will devour every crime there is and we'll all end up in Guantanamo because our dogs crapped on the neighbor's lawn.
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My neighbor owns a Great Dane.
Beautiful, good-natured dog, but if he crapped on my lawn I would be terrorized.
 
radioman said:
Another important fact....200+ Americans were killed by drunk drivers last week.
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How many of them were beheaded, and does that invariably make it terrorism? How can we tie this into a xenophobic narrative?
 
TeleKat said:
Terrorism is usually defined as killing large amounts of people in an attempt scare the **** out of them as a means to push a certain political agenda. Going full nutjob on your former coworkers is just workplace violence.
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I agree. Terrorism has a point, something it wants to accomplish. It's meant to instill terror in a population. Violence can only do that when there's a threat of continued violence.
 
Unrepresented said:
How many of them were beheaded, and does that invariably make it terrorism?
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Wasn't Jayne Mansfield decapitated when her car rear-ended a semi?
Of course, that was a long, long time ago.

How can we tie this into a xenophobic narrative?
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Well, if we can arrest a drunk ISIS agent who illegally crossed our southern border, carrying a crate of machetes, we could make a case.
It would help if he has the Ebola virus......and maybe owns a pit bull.....and commits a drive-by beheading.....
 
countryboy said:
Really? So, when jihadists behead a single person, it's not terrorism?
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First, known terrorists as you suggest, committing the act in front of a camera to be used as a propaganda tool later, to scare an entire population, is classic terrorism. A wack job getting fired and killing an employee/s has always been workplace violence.
 
countryboy said:
That's not what I asked.

I heard the guy was suspended, not fired. Is that inaccurate? I also heard he is a convert to Islam. Is that inaccurate? Is beheading a victim in any way unusual? Do you not think it appropriate to investigate this incident thoroughly? Has the investigation been completed? Why are libs so reluctant to consider the possibility that this assailant might be a jihadi?
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First of all, your addressing a poster who identifies himself as slightly conservative and calling him a lib, furthermore, this issue isn't political. Thirdly, Christians commit crimes readily, including murder, and their religion doesn't get questioned as motive. Are you aware of the numbers of workplace violence in America? Cutting someone's head off is a-typical, but not anymore thorough then blowing there brains out with a 9mm.
 
countryboy said:
That's not what I asked.

I heard the guy was suspended, not fired. Is that inaccurate?
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Yes you are right. He was suspended and escorted to parking lot.He went home,got a knife and came back.

CNN.com - Transcripts
Earlier in the day last Thursday, the H.R. Department at Vaughan Foods received complaints against Mr. Nolan. He was called in and suspended and escorted to the parking lot. He then left Vaughan Foods where he went home, retrieve a knife and returned to Vaughan Foods to get revenge on certain people that he felt responsible for getting him suspended and who had wronged him. Upon entering the building he came across.
I also heard he is a convert to Islam. Is that inaccurate?
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Not relevant.

Is beheading a victim in any way unusual?
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Murdering someone is unusual.

Do you not think it appropriate to investigate this incident thoroughly? Has the investigation been completed?
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Aren't you one of those people going but he is a muslim and he beheaded someone so he must be a terrorist


Why are libs so reluctant to consider the possibility that this assailant might be a jihadi?
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It isn't just libs who doubt that this incident was a terrorist attack. Just because a Muslim guy goes postal doesn't make it a terrorist attack.
 
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