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Income Inequality

What should be done to battle income inequality in the USA?

  • Do not intervene

    Votes: 39 53.4%
  • Yes, do intervene

    Votes: 34 46.6%

  • Total voters
    73
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If you can obtain those things on your own accord or on the agreement of others, than yeah, you have a right to them.
No you just have the right to them. Regardless of labour or anything else... Hence the name "human rights"

And again, human rights laws should be present in a capitalist market too... They should be internationally enforced in this day and age...
 
No you just have the right to them. Regardless of labour or anything else... Hence the name "human rights"

Would I be right in saying that you believe you have a right to force people to provide you things such as clothing, shelter, water, food, healthcare, education, etc?
 
Would I be right in saying that you believe you have a right to force people to provide you those things?
Its not force. You took from society you must give back.

Again cons are just greedy.

I wish we could put you all on a island and see how long it took for you all took kill each other...

I give it three weeks....
 
Its not force. You took from society you must give back.

Again cons are just greedy.

If I don't accept your terms and you make me comply to them that is force, sorry. If I don't desire to provide people those things you listed and you impose on me to make me do so that is force.
 
If I don't accept your terms and you make me comply to them that is force, sorry. If I don't desire to provide people those things you listed and you impose on me to make me do so that is force.
No. You took/take from society. You owe it. Make the false libertarian argument all you want it don't make it true.
 
We seem to be at that now? What basic human rights do we not have access to? How many people are starving?

Fair would be a standard of a level playing field where ppl don't starve, and have access to basic human rights...

Why dont you just read what i wrote?
 
No. You took from society. You owe it. Make the false libertarian argument all you want don't make it true.

Why do I owe society anything? Because I benefited from it? Do I owe something to every person that I ever benefited from in one way or another? If so, why?
 
Why do I owe society anything? Because I benefited from it? Do I owe something to every person that I ever benefited from in one way or another? If so, why?

Better yet, do they owe something to you and when do they pay up?
 
Why do I owe society anything? Because I benefited from it? Do I owe something to every person that I ever benefited from in one way or another? If so, why?
No you owe society as a whole.
Do you use roads?
Are their pipes to your house to hook up to for gas? Did you pay to have the electrical lines ran? Can you call the cops or fire department if necessary?

I thought as much.
We seem to be at that now? What basic human rights do we not have access to? How many people are starving?
Loads. Just not to death. You can starve without dying.

You guys must have never been to a city in your life, or scene a homeless person...

Ever heard of Appalachia? Theirs plenty of starving white ppl their maybe that would make you care...
 
Wrong.

You can deny facts all you want. It does not make them true.

What does starving mean again? :rolleyes:

still hung up on starving-a claim you never proved.

and if you are ambitious and work hard you can get decent education in just about any public school in the USA
 
No you owe society as a whole.
Do you use roads?
Are their pipes to your house to hook up to for gas? Did you pay to have the electrical lines ran? Can you call the cops or fire department if necessary?

I thought as much.

Loads. Just not to death. You can starve without dying.

You guys must have never been to a city in your life, or scene a homeless person...

Ever heard of Appalachia? Theirs plenty of starving white ppl their maybe that would make you care...

more idiocy. obesity is a far worse problem for the poor than starving

and do you believe that the kid who makes top grades owes the school more than the kid who has bad grades?

I don't owe society any more than some slacker.
 
No you owe society as a whole.
Do you use roads?
Are their pipes to your house to hook up to for gas? Did you pay to have the electrical lines ran? Can you call the cops or fire department if necessary?

I thought as much.

Loads. Just not to death. You can starve without dying.

You guys must have never been to a city in your life, or scene a homeless person...

Ever heard of Appalachia? Theirs plenty of starving white ppl their maybe that would make you care...

I pay rent for those roads, those pipes, those electric lines, and those cops. Can we say that of you? Of everybody that uses them?

Please try to address the questions you were asked ....
 
still hung up on starving-a claim you never proved.

and if you are ambitious and work hard you can get decent education in just about any public school in the USA
How did I not prove it? How did you disprove it? Oh wait you didn't... You just argued you dont remember ppl being hungry and that the dictionary is wrong... Hilarious.

And the school thing is untrue. I know plenty of kids that were ambitious and got a really poor education still...

Your a denier.... Bet you don't believe in anthropomorphic climate change either.... Bet you think "well it got cold!"
 
I pay rent for those roads, those pipes, those electric lines, and those cops. Can we say that of you? Of everybody that uses them?

Please try to address the questions you were asked ....
I did. And you don't pay nearly enough. No one does. That's why were in this crisis we are. Denial will not help.

Oh and yea I pay taxes too... Difference is I don't try to lower them to a comically low level that starves the system of revenue.

Can we say the same of you? I think not...
 
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more idiocy. obesity is a far worse problem for the poor than starving

and do you believe that the kid who makes top grades owes the school more than the kid who has bad grades?

I don't owe society any more than some slacker.
Not for the absolute poor. And yes obesity is a real issue too that is caused by predatory corporations and severe lack of proper food regulations.
 
I did. And you don't pay nearly enough. No one does. That's why were in this crisis we are. Denial will not help.

Oh and yea I pay taxes too...

... ok, you and I pay taxes ... that means there are two who don't. I think I see the problem ...
 
... ok, you and I pay taxes ... that means there are two who don't. I think I see the problem ...
Der what? You make no sense.... If they had the same opportunity's we had they probably would too....
 
How did I not prove it? How did you disprove it? Oh wait you didn't... You just argued you dont remember ppl being hungry and that the dictionary is wrong... Hilarious.

And the school thing is untrue. I know plenty of kids that were ambitious and got a really poor education still...

Your a denier.... Bet you don't believe in anthropomorphic climate change either.... Bet you think "well it got cold!"

you have backtracked from STARVING to hungry

Nice FAIL

STARVE: SUFFER SEVERELY OR DIE FROM HUNGER

sorry millions were not starving in the USA under Eisenhower
 
Not for the absolute poor. And yes obesity is a real issue too that is caused by predatory corporations and severe lack of proper food regulations.

its amazing how you can blame anyone but those who are fat for their condition

listen-stop whining and stop blaming others for your lot
 
Der what? You make no sense.... If they had the same opportunity's we had they probably would too....

You probably don't want to go there ... you're way out of bounds in your assumptions. They do have the same opportunities that I had ... I came from where they are. The difference was I used it as a motivator, they use it as an excuse.
 
you have backtracked from STARVING to hungry

Nice FAIL

STARVE: SUFFER SEVERELY OR DIE FROM HUNGER

sorry millions were not starving in the USA under Eisenhower
No you just disproved yourself. Starving means to suffer greatly from hunger (as you stated) I proved their were millions and still are even more today suffering from absolute hunger ie starving.

You failed.
its amazing how you can blame anyone but those who are fat for their condition

listen-stop whining and stop blaming others for your lot
Yea right its their fault they fan only afford to eat at McDonalds... OK... Ppl like u should be jailed!

Lawyers will be the death of us all I tell you what...

You probably don't want to go there ... you're way out of bounds in your assumptions. They do have the same opportunities that I had ... I came from where they are. The difference was I used it as a motivator, they use it as an excuse.

Really? Where did you come from? I'm from inner city philly....

Your just wrong again... And honestly I think most ppl lie to prove a point on the iterwebz.
 
No you just disproved yourself. Starving means to suffer greatly from hunger (as you stated) I proved their were millions and still are even more today suffering from absolute hunger ie starving.

You failed.

Yea right its their fault they fan only afford to eat at McDonalds... OK... Ppl like u should be jailed!

Lawyers will be the death of us all I tell you what...



Really? Where did you come from? I'm from inner city philly....

Your just wrong again... And honestly I think most ppl lie to prove a point on the iterwebz.

you didn't prove anything
 
Nothing should be done, that isn't already being done. Income equality is a reality, because people aren't all equal in intelligence, drive, ingenuity, and just plain old luck. I strongly support reward for efforts, education, and industriousness, and I strongly dislike paying people for doing nothing.

The main determinant of how much wealth a person has is how much wealth their parents had. By all means, we all want hard work and ingenuity and whatnot to be rewarded, many of us just think that we need to counterbalance the massively disproportionate access to opportunity that people get at birth. We'd rather a country where hard work or intelligence were the main determinant of success, but smart, hard working, people whose parents aren't rich face awfully long odds these days.
 
Really? Where did you come from? I'm from inner city philly....

Your just wrong again... And honestly I think most ppl lie to prove a point on the iterwebz.

Believe me, I don't have to lie.

But,you have CLEARLY demonstrated your unwillingness to even remotely consider anything that does not fit neatly into your fantasy world.

Congratulation on the close-minded approach ... you've taken it to a whole new level. You don't even want to hear that there might be alternatives to your position. It must be really boring to be so positive that you are always right.

Don't worry ... you won't hear my story ... I wouldn't want to bore you.
 
The main determinant of how much wealth a person has is how much wealth their parents had. By all means, we all want hard work and ingenuity and whatnot to be rewarded, many of us just think that we need to counterbalance the massively disproportionate access to opportunity that people get at birth. We'd rather a country where hard work or intelligence were the main determinant of success, but smart, hard working, people whose parents aren't rich face awfully long odds these days.


do you have any kids? I sort of doubt it. most of what I do, in terms of spending, and investment-is based on my desire to leave my son in a better position when I die, than where I was when my father died. and that was his goal and the goal of his father etc going back to the 1780s. that is why my family has been wealthy since Nicholas Longworth was the first millionaire west of Pittsburgh.
 
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