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Income Inequality

What should be done to battle income inequality in the USA?

  • Do not intervene

    Votes: 39 53.4%

  • Yes, do intervene

    Votes: 34 46.6%
  • Total voters
    73
b_dubz said:
One of the dumbest things I have ever read.

So if you work really hard at wal Mart or McDonalds you will get ahead? No you certainly will not..

Go away with your lying butt!
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You sure are an angry bitter felon....ROTFLMMFAO. Anyone who makes a career out of working at those places has no one to blame but themselves.
 
b_dubz said:
Well then go away (and you would be horribly mistaken.)

Would a system that's "fair" have been founded by men that were so hypocritical as to preach freedom but deny to all but a select few?

Would the police of this system target minority's at alarmingly high rates compared to everyone else?

Would it allow children to be taken in by foster parents only to have them be starved and Beaten so the foster parents could make a buck? (A direct result of defending social services)

would a majority of its population feel misrepresented?

Would it bomb ppl for no reason and start wars of aggression around the world?

I think not.
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Glad we don't live in a country like that. Switch to decaf.
 
Lakeside said:
You sure are an angry bitter felon....ROTFLMMFAO. Anyone who makes a career out of working at those places has no one to blame but themselves.
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Its this kind of mentality that destroys america. Why should you not be able to make a decent living working their? What about the mentally and physically handicapped and seniors that get stuck in such jobs? Or just dumb ppl? Why do they deserve to not eat?

Again GO AWAY LIAR
 
Jack Hays said:
Glad we don't live in a country like that. Switch to decaf.
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Don't need caffeine... I have insomnia...

And we certainly do wanna make a argument as to how we dont? Or u jus wanna troll more?
 
b_dubz said:
Don't need caffeine... I have insomnia...

And we certainly do wanna make a argument as to how we dont? Or u jus wanna troll more?
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You have posted a string of falsehoods and I don't care to engage with such irrationality.
 
b_dubz said:
Its this kind of mentality that destroys america. Why should you not be able to make a decent living working their? What about the mentally an physically handicapped and seniors that get stuck in such jobs? Or just dumb ppl? Why do they deserve to not eat?

Again GO AWAY LIAR
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You poor pathetic felon. Life has been so cruel to you. Now go spark up a twister and sit in the corner and keep feeling sorry for yourself. Care to share with us all about how many people are starving each year? Where are all these so called poor starving people in the USA? I never see any of those poor emaciated bodies walking down the street begging for scraps of food. People like you who are so bitter and angry about being losers in life are what is wrong with America today. You are nothing but pathetic. Rant over, I can't waste anymore time with losers like you.
 
Lakeside said:
You poor pathetic felon. Life has been so cruel to you. Now go spark up a twister and sit in the corner and keep feeling sorry for yourself. Care to share with us all about how many people are starving each year? Where are all these so called poor starving people in the USA? I never see any of those poor emaciated bodies walking down the street begging for scraps of food. People like you who are so bitter and angry about being losers in life are what is wrong with America today. You are nothing but pathetic. Rant over, I can't waste anymore time with losers like you.
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Yes I am a loser and yet you are the one that feels the need to blatantly lie about his childhood to make a point on a internet forum.

I guarantee I will make more money than you and have a much more fulfilling life by helping others.

Go away liar.
 
b_dubz said:
Wrong. The union (in all cases except construction and pigs) protects employees from predatory employers and unsafe working conditions. And back in the day unions did great things for cops and construction worker...
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I was not arguing that unions have done nothing for workers, but that it is the wrong approach to take as it causes the underlining problems to get worse. The idea should be to improve relations, not to make your employer your opponent and enemy. The relationship of employee and employer is a partnership and any solution to fix the relationship should keep that in mind.
 
Henrin said:
I was not arguing that unions have done nothing for workers, but that it is the wrong approach to take as it causes the underlining problems to get worse. The idea should be to improve relations, not to make your employer your opponent and enemy. The relationship of employee and employer is a partnership and any solution to fix the relationship should keep that in mind.
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Having a union allows the employees to bargain on a level playing field. If the employees have to each bargain individually, then they have no clout.
 
Henrin said:
I was not arguing that unions have done nothing for workers, but that it is the wrong approach to take as it causes the underlining problems to get worse. The idea should be to improve relations, not to make your employer your opponent and enemy. The relationship of employee and employer is a partnership and any solution to fix the relationship should keep that in mind.
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Well if we regulated the job place properly I might agree. I don't however because it is far from regulated properly. Unions are needed today for lots of ppl. Otherwise they would get screwed by their employer.
 
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Dittohead not! said:
Having a union allows the employees to bargain on a level playing field. If the employees have to each bargain individually, then they have no clout.
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Collective bargaining allows unions to blackmail and bully employers into doing what they want.
 
Henrin said:
Collective bargaining allows unions to blackmail and bully employers into doing what they want.
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Haha good one bully employers.....

If anything employers bully unions and employees out of existence.
 
Dittohead not! said:
Only if the manager is a wussie and allows it to happen.
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Any strike that workers take part in is blackmail and failure to uphold their side of the arrangement they agreed to. When the law dictates that workers must be negotiated with and they must be negotiated with in a certain fashion that limits the choices of employers to get out of doing what they blackmailers demand of them.
 
Henrin said:
Any strike that workers take part in is blackmail and failure to uphold their side of the arrangement they agreed to. When the law dictates that workers must be negotiated with and they must be negotiated with in a certain fashion that limits the choices of employers to get out of doing what they blackmailers demand of them.
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Management has to be totally unreasonable before the union will even consider a strike. Strikes are costly to both the employees and their unions.
 
Nonsense. The screwing is done by the unions to the employees. They killed the auto industry and constantly price their people out of the market. Employers look for options like overseas manufacturing or automation. Are the grocery store employs unionized where you live? Notice the automated check out?

b_dubz said:
Well if we regulated the job place properly I might agree. I don't however because it is far from regulated properly. Unions are needed today for lots of ppl. Otherwise they would get screwed by their employer.
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TobyOne said:
Nonsense. The screwing is done by the unions to the employees. They killed the auto industry and constantly price their people out of the market. Employers look for options like overseas manufacturing or automation. Are the grocery store employs unionized where you live? Notice the automated check out?
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What about the teachers? Or fireman?

And a machine can't stock shelves yet for one, two in the store i work at (or whole foods or trader joes) they don't have automated checkout. And this is another symptom of a deregulated system. Plus theirs still cashiers at a store with automated checkout.

And really the screwing is done by the employer to the employee. The unions are another symptom of a sick system.
 
Dittohead not! said:
Management has to be totally unreasonable before the union will even consider a strike. Strikes are costly to both the employees and their unions.
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Either party can be unreasonable, but that doesn't somehow make blackmail justified.
 
There are less checkers. I don't think it was coincidence that these automated check out machines started showing up after a long strike here in so cal.

Teachers are a different story. Their union should be outlawed as should all public unions. They corrupt government.

b_dubz said:
What about the teachers? Or target shoppers?

And a machine can't stock shelves yet for one, two in the store i work at (or whole foods or trader joes) they don't have automated checkout. And this is another symptom of a deregulated system. Plus theirs still cashiers at a store with automated checkout.
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TobyOne said:
There are less checkers. I don't think it was coincidence that these automated check out machines started showing up after a long strike here in so cal.

Teachers are a different story. Their union should be outlawed as should all public unions. They corrupt government.
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OK that's insane. They need them more than anyone!!

If you cons allowed us to regulate the workplace properly then maybe we wouldn't need unions.

The way it stands now its insane to say otherwise.
 
I can only imagine the horrors that entails.

b_dubz said:
OK that's insane. They need them more than anyone!!

If you cons allowed us to regulate the workplace properly then maybe we wouldn't need unions.

The way it stands now its insane to say otherwise.
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Henrin said:
Either party can be unreasonable, but that doesn't somehow make blackmail justified.
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Yes, either party can be unreasonable.

If one party has all of the aces, then one can be assured that will be the unreasonable party.
 
Dittohead not! said:
Yes, either party can be unreasonable.

If one party has all of the aces, then one can be assured that will be the unreasonable party.
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Sorry, but no. Workers have a tendency to get ideas in their heads that they are owed certain things from their employers that are either outlandish or financially not viable for the business.
 
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