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Do you trust president Obama to do a good job fighting ISIS?

Do you trust president Obama to do a good job fighting ISIS?


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Do you trust president Obama to do a good job fighting ISIS?



Mostly this question is aimed at those who want our country to fight ISIS. Because I noticed many neocon scum in the media saying Obama should do something,Obama should fight ISIS or some other nonsense are the same ones who mock his ability to lead militarily. If this guy is such a poor leader then why on earth do they want that man getting us involved in another war? Do these people think he has General Patton or some other great general on ice ready to thawed? Is there a really great "How to Fight Wars for Dummies" book somewhere?
 
Not sure at this point. His intentions might be pure, but I'm highly skeptical of his commitment to the fight at this point, in no small part due to his hesitancy to act as ISIS initially toppled key positions in Iraq. I sincerely hope that he reverses course in terms of seriousness and vowing to not send in troops no matter the circumstance. Ruling out a ground assault beforehand isn't an encouraging sign.
 
This is a chance for Obama to prove to the world that he can be a great leader. No one wants a war but a war is what we have. When these child killers brag and say that they will see us in New York city and say that their flag will fly over the WH that should be considered a declaration of war by them. I by no means have been to any War College but it seems that these killers have no time line and will slowly do what they have to do to complete their caliphate of the world. It is also time to start playing their game. They want to kill children and rape women we should be just as brutal as they are. Please don't take me as being a war monger or being to brutal, but we have to fight fire with fire. Wash their dead bodies in pigs blood and then just burn their bodies along with the pig carcasses. Rant over.
 
Do you trust president Obama to do a good job fighting ISIS?



Mostly this question is aimed at those who want our country to fight ISIS. Because I noticed many neocon scum in the media saying Obama should do something,Obama should fight ISIS or some other nonsense are the same ones who mock his ability to lead militarily. If this guy is such a poor leader then why on earth do they want that man getting us involved in another war? Do these people think he has General Patton or some other great general on ice ready to thawed? Is there a really great "How to Fight Wars for Dummies" book somewhere?


It's difficult and maybe wrong to sit back and watch events but -o- is the wrong man for the leadership role. He's just as likely to add another chapter to " How Not To Fight A War"

Most certainly he is no Sun Tsu.

Our world situation is, indeed, perplexing; another episode of "damned if we do.. damned if we don't"

"Wellington ? Who's Wellington ? I've just recently heard of him. I'll contain him quickly and then destroy Blucher". Napoleon thought too much of his abilities also.

"Winter? Don't worry about winter, we'll be out of Russia in three months" Hitler

"This will be but a skirmish" Robt. E. Lee

" Today, in the Gulf of Tonkin......" LBJ

My mind's imaginings of the above statements and thoughts. :) There is no clue to Obama's thoughts!

There's a bad moon on the rise.

Thom Paine
 
Obama will only encourage the enemy.
 
Do you trust president Obama to do a good job fighting ISIS?

other.

1. neoconservatives are not scum. we all share the same goal, which is keeping the country safe while building a stable economy. hawks are looking at the problem in a different way, and in a way which i believe is incorrect.

2. the problems in the Middle East cannot be solved by external military force. they must be solved internally by regional hegemons like Saudi Arabia.

Obama does not or is unwilling to understand the problem, because explaining it properly to the American people will embolden his political enemies to paint him as weak on foreign policy.

my opinion is :

1. the proposed strategy will not work.

2. even if the US destroys this particular snake, two will grow from its corpse.

end infinitywar now, and nation build in the United States.
 
1. I don't trust Obama to do anything well. He has proven that his actions are never goal oriented...they are politically oriented. That means he'll never go into this ISIS thing with the goal of ending them. He'll do what he thinks necessary for his political appearances only.

2. As we've learned...and as Obama SHOULD have learned...war by committee doesn't work. He totally ****ed up Libya that way...now he wants to do the same to Syria and Iraq.

3. It is well known that he doesn't trust his Generals. That means he won't listen to their suggestions, won't implement their ideas, plans, tactics or strategies. The result is, from his point of view, "My way or the highway". Unfortunately, his way is the highway to hell.
 
Not sure at this point. His intentions might be pure, but I'm highly skeptical of his commitment to the fight at this point, in no small part due to his hesitancy to act as ISIS initially toppled key positions in Iraq. I sincerely hope that he reverses course in terms of seriousness and vowing to not send in troops no matter the circumstance. Ruling out a ground assault beforehand isn't an encouraging sign.



I see a complete lack of reality in the Media play by play of events in Syraq. First we arm ISIS directly, or indirectly. We want to get rid of Assad so we can get the pipeline concession across Syria. We're supposed to pretend we don't notice Oil and Gas as geo-political realities. Then there are the lovely profits of war. First profits to the Energy corporations as the logistics of preparation for war by moving arms, planes, transports, ships, and all the suppoet equipment. Yowsah, war is good business, dont' ya' know? The new unemployment program. ISIS is genuine scumbags, but they are native scumbags to the area. We armed and funded al Qeda. We armed and funded ISIS. There's just so much covert collusion going on and it's not about liberty and justice for all. I'm not optimistic about any positive outcomes in Syraq.
 
I see a complete lack of reality in the Media play by play of events in Syraq. First we arm ISIS directly, or indirectly. We want to get rid of Assad so we can get the pipeline concession across Syria. We're supposed to pretend we don't notice Oil and Gas as geo-political realities. Then there are the lovely profits of war. First profits to the Energy corporations as the logistics of preparation for war by moving arms, planes, transports, ships, and all the suppoet equipment. Yowsah, war is good business, dont' ya' know? The new unemployment program. ISIS is genuine scumbags, but they are native scumbags to the area. We armed and funded al Qeda. We armed and funded ISIS. There's just so much covert collusion going on and it's not about liberty and justice for all. I'm not optimistic about any positive outcomes in Syraq.

I agree, the reason why we are still in Iraq is all about money now and the military-industrial complex. We arm and finance both sides just to keep the war going.
 
Do you trust president Obama to do a good job fighting ISIS?

Mostly this question is aimed at those who want our country to fight ISIS.

Hm.

Well. No. But better what we can get than allowing the perfect to be the enemy of the less-bad.
 
Do you trust president Obama to do a good job fighting ISIS?



Mostly this question is aimed at those who want our country to fight ISIS. Because I noticed many neocon scum in the media saying Obama should do something,Obama should fight ISIS or some other nonsense are the same ones who mock his ability to lead militarily. If this guy is such a poor leader then why on earth do they want that man getting us involved in another war? Do these people think he has General Patton or some other great general on ice ready to thawed? Is there a really great "How to Fight Wars for Dummies" book somewhere?

Excellent question. If Obama is such a poor leader, why do they want him to lead us to war? They'e like a bunch of people looking at a house on fire, running in circles and shouting, "Do something!"

Doing the wrong thing at this point could make matters even worse, just like the initial invasion made matters worse.
 
I hope a country with such a massive army doesn't actually send its President to fight the wars. Surely it would have enough resources, like experts in tactics and grunts to do the killing so that the President need only point it at the enemy and say "Go".
 
I hope a country with such a massive army doesn't actually send its President to fight the wars. Surely it would have enough resources, like experts in tactics and grunts to do the killing so that the President need only point it at the enemy and say "Go".

One would think so, but, come to think of it, there are some real positives to having the president lead the troops into battle as great leaders of the past used to do.

I think we'd have fewer wars if the person deciding to go to war went to war, don't you?
 
Not sure at this point. His intentions might be pure, but I'm highly skeptical of his commitment to the fight at this point, in no small part due to his hesitancy to act as ISIS initially toppled key positions in Iraq. I sincerely hope that he reverses course in terms of seriousness and vowing to not send in troops no matter the circumstance. Ruling out a ground assault beforehand isn't an encouraging sign.

His intentions might be pure?

:roll:

No offense, but let's hop on the naive train to Gullible Ville.

His intentions about ISIS are either paranoia, political deception for the mid-terms or some flat out Neocon-backed reason.

I am betting on the latter two.

Imo, 95+% of all federal politicians do almost nothing due to 'pure intentions'...unless they are too stupid to know better.

And Obama is not stupid.


This ridiculous ISIS paranoia/battle will eventually make the Middle East less stable, not more.

It's just more Neocon-style madness at work (and yes, Neocons are Democrats too).
 
Hm.

Well. No. But better what we can get than allowing the perfect to be the enemy of the less-bad.

You want him to do something but yet you think he is incompetent? Wouldn't that just make things worse?
 
His intentions might be pure?

:roll:

No offense, but let's hop on the naive train to Gullible Ville.

His intentions about ISIS are either paranoia, political deception for the mid-terms or some flat out Neocon-backed reason.

I am betting on the latter two.

Imo, 95+% of all federal politicians do almost nothing due to 'pure intentions'...unless they are too stupid to know better.

And Obama is not stupid.


This ridiculous ISIS paranoia/battle will eventually make the Middle East less stable, not more.

It's just more Neocon-style madness at work (and yes, Neocons are Democrats too).
While I understand that libertarians tend to be slavishly devoted to avoiding conflict at any cost, I just can't take anyone seriously who disregards the threat that ISIS poses to the civilized world as "paranoia." Can't even pretend to play along :shrug:
 
You want him to do something but yet you think he is incompetent? Wouldn't that just make things worse?

No. It means we are slowly and fitfully doing the smart thing. Lack of knowledge on how to properly conduct a beach landing didn't stop us from starting the island hopping campaign, and I'd rather have sort of incompetent cops respond to someone who is trying to murder me than no one.
 
No. It means we are slowly and fitfully doing the smart thing. Lack of knowledge on how to properly conduct a beach landing didn't stop us from starting the island hopping campaign, and I'd rather have sort of incompetent cops respond to someone who is trying to murder me than no one.

Wouldn't incompetent cops accidentally shoot you or show up after you are dead and not catch your murderer?
 
I wonder if his "containment" remark was a Freudian Slip and actually his intention. And if that's the goal then we need to stay home until we see a goal worth risking life and limb for.
 
I trust that Obama will do a great job continuing to aid isis (re: alquaeda renamed)
 
No, I don't, but then again I don't trust any American politician, regardless of party, to do a good job. Nobody in this country has the balls to do what needs to be done because doing so would be political suicide and all anyone cares about is getting re-elected.
 
Do you trust president Obama to do a good job fighting ISIS?

Oh hell no. Seems that he's falling into the same LBJ / Vietnam trap running the conflict from the White House.

He's already limited and limiting his options by declaring what he won't do. Foolish and self-defeating tactic.
The smarter position / tactic is that 'everything's on the table', and make the opponent guess what he needs to defend against.

No leader he.
 
I hope a country with such a massive army doesn't actually send its President to fight the wars. Surely it would have enough resources, like experts in tactics and grunts to do the killing so that the President need only point it at the enemy and say "Go".

I was thinking the same thing.

But if we did send Obama to fight ISIS, he'd probably loose. I don't think he has a lot of military training and he lifts sissy weights.
 
Excellent question. If Obama is such a poor leader, why do they want him to lead us to war? They'e like a bunch of people looking at a house on fire, running in circles and shouting, "Do something!"

Doing the wrong thing at this point could make matters even worse, just like the initial invasion made matters worse.

We really don't have a choice...we are stuck with Obama for the next two years and something has to be done.........The problem is when it comes to foreign policy either Obama does not care or is clueless on the issue.
 
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