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Parents: Punishing Kids [W:361]

is it ever allowable for a Parent to punish their child with force?

  • Yes

    Votes: 43 68.3%

  • No

    Votes: 12 19.0%

  • Other (explain)

    Votes: 8 12.7%
  • Total voters
    63
Re: Parents: Punishing Kids

Henrin said:
How do you figure that?
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If I have to explain it, this conversation has no reason to continue.

Henrin said:
Google "does spanking cause psychological trauma" and you will get tons of evidence that it in fact does.
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Then prove it. You made the claim.

Henrin said:
The right reasons? The only right reasons are inside peoples minds. There is no such thing as the right reasons to assault someone in the real world.
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We are not assaulting someone, we are disciplining a child. As far as "The only right reasons are inside peoples minds." I agree it is subjective.

Henrin said:
Yes, it should have died out centuries ago. The fact that it hasn't is a failure of the human race to grow and move past barbaric idiocy.
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Baseless opinion.
 
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Black Dog said:
If I have to explain it, this conversation has no reason to continue.
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Why is that?

Then prove it. You made the claim.
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Spankings have been connected by numerous studies to cognitive impairment, long-term developmental difficulties and decreases in a child's IQ. This is caused by spanking changing the grey matter in the brain that influences intelligence and learning abilities. Spanking also adversely affects areas of the brain involved in sensory perception, speech, muscular control, emotions and memory increasing the risk of aggression and childhood depression. In case you're not aware being depressed as a child is the worst time in your life for it to happen.

We are not assaulting someone, we are disciplining a child. As far as "The only right reasons are inside peoples minds." I agree it is subjective.
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Call it hugs and kisses if it makes you feel better. Whatever you decide to call it doesn't change the nature of the act at all. How it affects a child varies, but the effects of trauma are well known.

Baseless opinion.
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Yes, it's my opinion.
 
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Re: Parents: Punishing Kids

radcen said:
...and you will get tons of evidence that it doesn't. What's your point? :shrug:
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Studies that say it doesn't?? By whom?
 
Re: Parents: Punishing Kids

My grandad whipped us very rarely. He did it with his belt. He never did it at the moment we angered him. He would make us go sit in his room until he was not at all angry anymore, then he would come in and explain what we had done and the effect it had. Then he would give us between 1 and 3 (never more than three) swats with the belt.

The whipping had no more effect than to punctuate how rotten we felt from the disappointment Grandad expressed in our behavior.
 
Re: Parents: Punishing Kids

Henrin said:
Why is that?
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I don't have the patience to explain basic concepts we should all understand.

Henrin said:
Spankings have been connected by numerous studies to cognitive impairment, long-term developmental difficulties and decreases in a child's IQ. This is caused by spanking changing the grey matter in the brain that influences intelligence and learning abilities. Spanking also adversely affects areas of the brain involved in sensory perception, speech, muscular control, emotions and memory increasing the risk of aggression and childhood depression. In case you're not aware being depressed as a child is the worst time in your life for it to happen.
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And this comes from? So I can see it for myself?

And it is all speculation at this point as psychology is not an exact science. For instance "it may cause a decrease in grey matter." Or so says the numerous reports I saw. Using extreme language with no links does little to reinforce your position.

This also shows the agenda...

Debates around physical punishment typically revolve around the ethics of using violence to enforce discipline. This inquiry synthesized 20 years of published research on the topic and aims to "shift the ethical debate over corporal punishment into the medical sphere - How Spanking Harms the Brain | Psychology Today

Now where have I heard that before? Oh yea... The gun debate.

Henrin said:
Call it hugs and kisses if it makes you feel better. Whatever you decide to call it doesn't change the nature of the act at all. How it affects a child varies, but the effects of trauma are well known.
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A lot of "if's" in that.

Henrin said:
Yes, it's my opinion.
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Yes it is.
 
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