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... you'll discover that almost every single religion purports to be a religion of peace.
This is the Fallacy of anecdote/Exception.
An utterly Misleading 'equivalence' type statement.
MORE People Die Almost EVERY DAY in the NAME of Islam than have died in 30 YEARS Total of abortion Clinic bombings.
thereligionofpeace.com
Monthly Jihad Report
August, 2014
Jihad Attacks: : : 222
Countries:: : : : : 27
Allah Akbars: : :: 24 (Suicide bombings)
Dead Bodies: : : 4573
Critically Injured: 2287
Last 30 Days Only. NAME of Islam Only.
Islam: Making a True Difference in the World - One Body at a Time
The Strawman 'Terrorism' is just the most famous Tip of a Violent/Intolerant Iceberg.
Significant Minorities to Large Majorities favor penalties for 'Insulting Islam', or DEATH for 'Apostasy.'
Christianity and islam are NOT remotely Comparable.
A Christian Fundamentalist is a Missionary, a Muslim Fundamentalist Kills him.
As always, paschendale #5, was quick to the 100% Wrong, 100% apologism.
... you'll discover that almost every single religion purports to be a religion of peace.
Christianity and islam are NOT remotely Comparable.
A Christian Fundamentalist is a Missionary, a Muslim Fundamentalist Kills him.
Nice exception post!That just depends on where you are in the world. I doubt the thousands of Hindus and Buddhists who were forced by the NLFT to convert to Christianity with a machete pressed against their throats would agree with you. Same goes for plenty of people in Uganda and Nigeria.
Nice exception post! I note you did NOT quote or respond to the BULK of My post showing Islam's Worldwide Carnage which DWARFS anyone and everyone else's. So, yeah, it depends on where you are Only because you need a Microscope to find your example, while mine is pandemic and why every flier spends an extra hour on every trip.
Is Islam a "Religion of Peace"?
Yes?
No?
Yes and no?
Something else?
Please give some thoughts behind your conclusion.
Bonus question: In your opinion, why did Bush II go out of his way to refer to it as such after 9/11? Do you think he actually believed it? Do you think he was trying to keep people (us and them) calm?
A Muslim meets me for the first time....
He/she has three choices:
1) Convert me.
2) Make me submit (Ie: tax me).
3) Kill me.
I voted no.
Solid no. I don't doubt that many are distorting Islam but the silence of muslims who don't is deafening. One can only conclude that they approve of the bat **** crazy minority.
Islam is a violent and militant religion by its very nature.
Whether more modern liberal movements can "tame" it or not remains to be seen. However, the basic character of the religion as it currently stands is pretty much undeniable.
It was born in violence to a violent man, it spread through violence, and it maintains its authority through violence. It pretty much always has.
Is Islam a "Religion of Peace"?
Yes?
No?
Yes and no?
Something else?
Please give some thoughts behind your conclusion.
Bonus question: In your opinion, why did Bush II go out of his way to refer to it as such after 9/11? Do you think he actually believed it? Do you think he was trying to keep people (us and them) calm?
Christianity got effectively neutered by secular society telling it that it can't get away with the violence. 500 years ago, Christianity was pretty much the same as modern-day Islam. It's going to take secularism to force Islam to grow up a little bit, just like Christianity was forced to grow up a little bit and stop burning people at the stake and the like.
To be fair, Islam is quite a bit worse than Christianity ever was. It is so by design, and has been since its very foundation.
As Gardener pointed out, their holy text includes explicit instructions to either "kill or covert" the whole world, as well as numerous descriptions of acts of violence doled out against both lapsed members of the Muslim faithful and infidels alike by Islam's founding prophet.
Groups like ISIS have not "corrupted" the nature of Islam. To the contrary, it's actually the other way around. Peaceful Muslims are the ones who are not living by the spirit of the original text.
I met a Muslim for the first time last week at a soccer tournament and he asked me if I wanted a coffee... he was going to a cafe' and bought the four of us some. Maybe he wanted to lace it with cyanide but messed up... hell, I don't know.
Almost no religion is violent. Assholes use religion to exercise violence. There is a difference.There's no such thing as a religion of peace. All religions are violent. All religions are hate-filled. Some just hide it better than others.
Is Islam a "Religion of Peace"?
Yes?
No?
Yes and no?
Something else?
Please give some thoughts behind your conclusion.
Bonus question: In your opinion, why did Bush II go out of his way to refer to it as such after 9/11? Do you think he actually believed it? Do you think he was trying to keep people (us and them) calm?
A Muslim meets me for the first time....
He/she has three choices:
1) Convert me.
2) Make me submit (Ie: tax me).
3) Kill me.
I voted no.