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If the USA is Going to Bomb ISIS in Syria Should the USA Work With Assad?

If the USA is Going to Bomb ISIS in Syria Should the USA Work With Assad?

  • Yes

    Votes: 7 43.8%
  • No

    Votes: 9 56.3%

  • Total voters
    16

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Like all of us know the options are on the table for the USA to bomb ISIS in Syria. With that in mind if If the we are going to bomb ISIS in Syria should the we work With Syrian State?

**When I say "We" I mean the US gov**
 
Assad is bad, ISIS is worse or at least has the capability and fanaticism to be.
 
Assad is guilty of horrible war crimes, including gassing the capital, and needs to go.
 
Like all of us know the options are on the table for the USA to bomb ISIS in Syria. With that in mind if If the we are going to bomb ISIS in Syria should the we work With Syrian State?

**When I say "We" I mean the US gov**

I voted 'no,' but if I had access to the intelligence that the President and our military officers have, I might change my mind. I caught part of the President's press conference today as I got home from work, and I saw he said he supported aiding the "moderate" rebels against Assad. And while, as it sits right now, I wouldn't support an alliance with Assad, I don't necessarily support the idea of an attempt to arm moderate rebels, simply because the logistics of that seem near impossible to ensure. But again, intelligence reports could change my mind.

I do think the U.S. should speak with Assad regarding some of the specifics of the operation, however.
 
Honestly, if we're in there bombing anyhow, I don't think I'd mind much if we just "accidentally" blew the crap out of Assad too. Just sayin'.
 
Assad is guilty of horrible war crimes, including gassing the capital, and needs to go.

Sure he does, but you can't fight both at the same time can you?

At this point I feel Assad is the lessor of 2 evils.
 
Sure he does, but you can't fight both at the same time can you?

At this point I feel Assad is the lessor of 2 evils.

Assad created the mess by slaughtering 100k civilians and forcing moderates to seek shelter from terrorist groups. You're asking the arson to be the firefighter.
 
Assad created the mess by slaughtering 100k civilians and forcing moderates to seek shelter from terrorist groups. You're asking the arson to be the firefighter.

So, you're going to fight them both at the same time?
 
So, you're going to fight them both at the same time?

I'm going to fight ISIS while maintaining that Assad must go. Ultimately, the choice is not between ISIS and Assad; the only choice is democracy and human rights. Those things are advanced through the defeat of ISIS and the removal of Assad. Given space to operate, moderates will re-emerge.
 
I'm going to fight ISIS while maintaining that Assad must go. Ultimately, the choice is not between ISIS and Assad; the only choice is democracy and human rights. Those things are advanced through the defeat of ISIS and the removal of Assad. Given space to operate, moderates will re-emerge.

Those moderates have become bit of a nobody now in Syria havent they?
 
Those moderates have become bit of a nobody now in Syria havent they?

They have sought the shelter of terrorist groups to save themselves from a mass-murdering dictator. This does not mean they have, in any real way, joined the terrorists. They still exist, and they're still waiting for justice and a chance at developing a decent country.

Do you believe all Syrians support terrorists or murderous dictatorship? I believe many, probably most, Syrians want human rights and representation.
 
Like all of us know the options are on the table for the USA to bomb ISIS in Syria. With that in mind if If the we are going to bomb ISIS in Syria should the we work With Syrian State?

**When I say "We" I mean the US gov**

I wouldn't support that, and I doubt it'd happen because of comments made by Assad.
 
Like all of us know the options are on the table for the USA to bomb ISIS in Syria. With that in mind if If the we are going to bomb ISIS in Syria should the we work With Syrian State?

**When I say "We" I mean the US gov**

I think we should stay out of the middle east.

If I was Assad I would not want the US anywhere near my country considering the fact they were wanting to arm the "rebels" i.e. ISIS(some could argue that the US did arm them).
 
Do you believe all Syrians support terrorists or murderous dictatorship? I believe many, probably most, Syrians want human rights and representation.
No I do not. But one must look at the realistic situation of what is happening in the country.
 
No I do not. But one must look at the realistic situation of what is happening in the country.

A mass-murdering dictator slaughtered 100k civilians to prevent a democratic revolution. This resulted in the moderates needing to run for cover among terrorists (because the West did not support them) and now Assad has created a monster.

Clearly, both ISIS and Assad must go to create space for democratic reform and human rights.
 
A mass-murdering dictator slaughtered 100k civilians to prevent a democratic revolution. This resulted in the moderates needing to run for cover among terrorists (because the West did not support them) and now Assad has created a monster.

Clearly, both ISIS and Assad must go to create space for democratic reform and human rights.

Sorry. But that last option is clearly unrealistic. The moderates have almost completely lost. Now its Islamists, or more extreme Islamists.
 
Sorry. But that last option is clearly unrealistic. The moderates have almost completely lost. Now its Islamists, or more extreme Islamists.

You never supported help to the moderates. You always blamed the US for Syrian terrorists. You always claim Assad is the good guy and he didn't use chems against the capital. One cannot expect you to believe in supporting moderates at the 11th hour. You've always supported Assad and blamed the US, and I've no expectation of you changing.

I think we'll agree to disagree on what is realistic. You keep your short-term goal of keeping Assad in power, I'll keep my long term goal of human rights and representation for Syrians.
 
You never supported help to the moderates. You always blamed the US for Syrian terrorists. You always claim Assad is the good guy and he didn't use chems against the capital. One cannot expect you to believe in supporting moderates at the 11th hour. You've always supported Assad and blamed the US, and I've no expectation of you changing.

I think we'll agree to disagree on what is realistic. You keep your short-term goal of keeping Assad in power, I'll keep my long term goal of human rights and representation for Syrians.

i don't think we should assist assad becuase he is demanding that any bombings or airstrikes that the united states would conduct in syria need to be approved by his regime. how can we be certain he is targeting his political enemys and using the united states airforce as his unwilling hitmen?
 
Assad is guilty of horrible war crimes, including gassing the capital, and needs to go.

This really just illustrates why we stay out for now. Let ISIS get rid of Assad or vice versa, and then we can worry about the winner without creating a power vacuum.
 
This really just illustrates why we stay out for now. Let ISIS get rid of Assad or vice versa, and then we can worry about the winner without creating a power vacuum.

You speak as if innocents are not being slaughtered.
 
i don't think we should assist assad becuase he is demanding that any bombings or airstrikes that the united states would conduct in syria need to be approved by his regime. how can we be certain he is targeting his political enemys and using the united states airforce as his unwilling hitmen?

Going through a mass-murdering, chemical weapon using dictator is nonsense. Assad is merely grasping for legitimacy.
 
You never supported help to the moderates.
Never thought we should got involved in a civil war. Its a called a civil war for a reason.

You always blamed the US for Syrian terrorists.
Partially? Yes.

You always claim Assad is the good guy
Dont think I ever called him a "good guy". Called him currently the lesser of two evils.

and he didn't use chems against the capital.
There are many reports taht back up this fact.
 
Like all of us know the options are on the table for the USA to bomb ISIS in Syria. With that in mind if If the we are going to bomb ISIS in Syria should the we work With Syrian State?

**When I say "We" I mean the US gov**

I remember Assad tell us awhile back that we were backing the wrong folks in the Syrian Civil War. I think we just blew him off, I did. But ISIS making up the major portion of the Rebels, perhaps we should make nice with Assad and combine his ground forces with our air force. Assad may not be a nice man, but he brings stability to Syria which now seems fairly non-existent.

When it comes to threats, ISIS is a bigger one than Assad. If we can link hands with Stalin to defeat Hitler, we can do the same here with Assad.
 
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