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Same Sex Marriage, how long till its national?

Same Sex Marriage, how long till its national?


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Do you think that SSM will be recognized at the federal level to receive those benefits, subject to fed taxation, legal protections, etc?

I don't think it will have to be. Didn't the DOMA case already establish that SSM couples get all the federal benefits and responsibilities? If that's still in question, then yes, I think it may require a supreme court case, but I think most of the circuit courts have already addressed the issue. I just don't think that a SSM ban will make it through any circuit, and I don't think that the supreme court would take the appeal. Unless they're going to actually uphold a ban, but that be very surprising. It really is an open and shut legal argument.
 
When did gay marriage become a right? Dates, please.

Constitutionally speaking, July 9, 1868.

Same day interracial marriage became a right. Hope this helps.
 
I think it could be up to 10.

Perhaps more.

But since I don't pay very close attention to all the various battles over the subject, that's just my best guess.

If it gets pushed in front of SCOTUS it could be sooner, but if they rule that it's up to the states it may take longer.
 
I don't think it will have to be. Didn't the DOMA case already establish that SSM couples get all the federal benefits and responsibilities? If that's still in question, then yes, I think it may require a supreme court case, but I think most of the circuit courts have already addressed the issue. I just don't think that a SSM ban will make it through any circuit, and I don't think that the supreme court would take the appeal. Unless they're going to actually uphold a ban, but that be very surprising. It really is an open and shut legal argument.


You realize that of the 12 Circuit Courts of Appeals, that 3 have already ruled that bans on Same-Sex Civil Marriage are unconstitutional. Those would be the 10th, 4th, and 9th. The 10th and the 4th are in the process of being appealed to the SCOTUS. The 9th's case was Hollingsworth v. Perry, their decision was vacated on a standing issue leaving the District Court's ruling that California's Proposition 8 was unconstitutional as the final word in the case. (Subsequent appeals to stay the resumption of SSCM in California were rejected by both the SCOTUS and the California Supreme Court.)



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There wasn't an option for "I really don't care."
 
You realize that of the 12 Circuit Courts of Appeals, that 3 have already ruled that bans on Same-Sex Civil Marriage are unconstitutional. Those would be the 10th, 4th, and 9th. The 10th and the 4th are in the process of being appealed to the SCOTUS. The 9th's case was Hollingsworth v. Perry, their decision was vacated on a standing issue leaving the District Court's ruling that California's Proposition 8 was unconstitutional as the final word in the case. (Subsequent appeals to stay the resumption of SSCM in California were rejected by both the SCOTUS and the California Supreme Court.)

Yes, I am aware of all of this. I think each circuit will reach the same conclusion without a supreme court case. I don't think the supreme court will take the appeals. If state and circuit courts weren't so quickly and so universally ruling the same way on SSM, then a supreme court case might have been necessary. I don't think we'll need one. I think it will be protected at the circuit and state court levels.
 
Haven't a clue.

Today would be nice.
 
Haven't a clue.

Today would be nice.

Based on SCOTUS' schedule, and their habits when it comes to big cases, it will be June 2015. I'd bet money on it.
 
I'm going to guess June 30, 2015.
 
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