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Do you think Obama is doing a good job as president?

Do you think Obama is doing a good job as president?

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kamikaze483 said:



"We've left behind a soverign... solid, stable Iraq."

He's the worst president we've ever had.
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:lamo:lamo:lamo
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That's your opinion, which you are entitled to and I will ignore.

BTW: You don't know much about history, the USA has had quite a few presidents a lot worse than Obama.

In any case he's the president until another Democrat takes his place in 2017.

Deal with it.


"Better days are coming." ~ But not for today's out of touch, running out of time, GOP
 
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disneydude said:
Seriously NP you are completely off base here. Obama's response to killing Bin Laden was completely sub-dued. In sharp contrast to the "mission accomplished" of the previous clown...and in certain contrast to what we would have seen if GWB had gotten the job done on his watch.
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Point of fact, the 'Mission Accomplished' sign was placed there by the ship, and not Bush. It was specific to that ship and it's crew completing it's assigned mission and returning to port safely. It had nothing to do with the larger context of in theater action.

It just happened to be in back of shot, with Bush in the foreground.

This is just a fine example of how liberals / progressives / Democrats distort the truth for their political agenda.
 
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disneydude said:
Oh Puh-lease. If you believe that....I have Oceanfront property in Iowa to sell you for a great price.
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Fine. Continue on your way completely uniformed, and please, just keep repeating the talking point you are fed.
 
shrubnose said:
That's your opinion, which you are entitled to and I will ignore.

BTW: You don't know much about history, the USA has had quite a few presidents a lot worse than Obama.

In any case he's the president until another Democrat takes his place in 2017.

Deal with it.


"Better days are coming." ~ But not for today's out of touch, running out of time, GOP
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Your buddy Biden said Iraq was one of the greatest accomplishments of the Obama administration............:lamo
 
Navy Pride said:
Your buddy Biden
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said Iraq was one of the greatest accomplishments of the Obama administration............:lamo
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You're projecting. Biden might be your buddy, but he's not mine.

You don't know me, and I doubt that you know Biden.

You just another guy on the internet running his mouth who doesn't know WTF he's trying to talk about


Put a sock in it. :roll:




"The only valid censorship of ideas is the right of people not to listen." ~ Tommy Smothers
 
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eohrnberger said:
Point of fact, the 'Mission Accomplished' sign was placed there by the ship, and not Bush. It was specific to that ship and it's crew completing it's assigned mission and returning to port safely. It had nothing to do with the larger context of in theater action.

It just happened to be in back of shot, with Bush in the foreground.

This is just a fine example of how liberals / progressives / Democrats distort the truth for their political agenda.
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LOL....it just shows how gullible you are.
 
Hamster Buddha said:
But he's done some good (at least would liberals would classify as such) though right? You got Obamacare, Dodd-Frank, and other stuff I'm sure you could name. Aren't you just throwing out the baby with the bath water?
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1. I didn't vote in the poll, because I don't think the situation is uncomplicated enough for a simple yes/no answer. As I said in post #54 of this thread:

Kobie said:
Don't we have basically this exact same poll about every third day?

Obama is OK at some things, bad at other things and deplorable at still other things.
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2. Nothing's being "thrown out," since the poll doesn't make Mitt Romney retroactively president. :cool:
3. I don't think most of us were particularly in love with Obamacare -- in the long run, probably better than the status quo, but it falls far short of most of us would want regarding health care reform.

I see most liberals who aren't huge fans of Obama would grade him anywhere from a 4 to 6 out of 10, whereas most conservatives would grade him anywhere from a 0 to a 0.5 out of 10.
 
Kobie said:
I see most liberals who aren' huge fans of Obama would grade him anywhere from a 4 to 6 out of 10, whereas most conservatives would grade him anywhere from a 0 to a 0.5 out of 10.
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Well, how would you grade it? If you don't mind me asking...
 
Hamster Buddha said:
Well, how would you grade it? If you don't mind me asking...
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Probably about a 4-ish. As I've said numerous times, I'm certainly no fan of Obama's or his party; I just find the sole viable alternative at this point far worse.
 
Kobie said:
Probably about a 4-ish. As I've said numerous times, I'm certainly no fan of Obama's or his party; I just find the sole viable alternative at this point far worse.
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Last few pres elections the GOP has presented crap as candidates.

Each and every one of them (excepting perhaps one or two who usually drop out early in the race) make me slightly nauseated.
 
The Mark said:
Last few pres elections the GOP has presented crap as candidates.

Each and every one of them (excepting perhaps one or two who usually drop out early in the race) make me slightly nauseated.
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The only ones in the GOP clown car of 2012 that I found even remotely palatable were Johnson, Huntsman and (kinda) Pawlenty, all of whom were drummed out pretty early in the nomination process.
 
Kobie said:
The only ones in the GOP clown car of 2012 that I found even remotely palatable were Johnson, Huntsman and (kinda) Pawlenty, all of whom were drummed out pretty early in the nomination process.
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The way the GOP selection process seems to work is, you get a bunch of candidates running, with some people liking one or the other, then after a few months or so the ones people actually like start dropping out, and you end up with the candidates no one really likes but which some people are willing to force themselves to stomach for the good of the party.

Then a good percentage of the voters try to do the same, but there are never enough because if you have to swallow your gorge before you vote it's going to turn some people off.


Or something like that.
 
The Mark said:
The way the GOP selection process seems to work is, you get a bunch of candidates running, with some people liking one or the other, then after a few months or so the ones people actually like start dropping out, and you end up with the candidates no one really likes but which some people are willing to force themselves to stomach for the good of the party.

Then a good percentage of the voters try to do the same, but there are never enough because if you have to swallow your gorge before you vote it's going to turn some people off.


Or something like that.
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The 2012 process was weird in that Romney entered as the putative favorite and left as the nominee, but damn if there wasn't a new flavor of the month cropping up every so often because Republicans -- or at least the more conservative wing of the party -- wanted nothing to do with Mitt Romney. Rick Perry, Herman Cain, Michelle Bachmann, Newt Gingrich, hell, even Donald Trump was at one point at least somewhat seriously considered. However, the only one who stood any sort of chance of actually beating Obama in a general election was Romney, at least before he smeared half the electorate and the Republicans' we-know-we're-right polling metrics turned out to be completely wrong (which probably led to a serious mis-allocation of resources late in the campaign).

The common meme among conservatives is "conservatives stayed home rather than vote for Mitt Romney," which sounds neat in theory, except that the 2012 election had a pretty high voter turnout which led to Romney having the fifth-highest popular vote total ever. I highly doubt enough Real Conservatives stayed home to offset the millions of independent voters who would have fled from Newt Gingrich like the denizens of Tokyo every time Godzilla shows up.
 
Kobie said:
The 2012 process was weird in that Romney entered as the putative favorite and left as the nominee, but damn if there wasn't a new flavor of the month cropping up every so often because Republicans -- or at least the more conservative wing of the party -- wanted nothing to do with Mitt Romney. Rick Perry, Herman Cain, Michelle Bachmann, Newt Gingrich, hell, even Donald Trump was at one point at least somewhat seriously considered. However, the only one who stood any sort of chance of actually beating Obama in a general election was Romney, at least before he smeared half the electorate and the Republicans' we-know-we're-right polling metrics turned out to be completely wrong (which probably led to a serious mis-allocation of resources late in the campaign).

The common meme among conservatives is "conservatives stayed home rather than vote for Mitt Romney," which sounds neat in theory, except that the 2012 election had a pretty high voter turnout which led to Romney having the fifth-highest popular vote total ever. I highly doubt enough Real Conservatives stayed home to offset the millions of independent voters who would have fled from Newt Gingrich like the denizens of Tokyo every time Godzilla shows up.
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I actually consider myself an independent.

A right-leaning one, however.

And right up til literally the voting booth I was all planning to vote for Romney, because I thought he'd be better than Obama.
The I looked at the screen (electronic voting booths with touchscreens where I vote) and just couldn't bring myself to do it.


Edit: I guess what I'm saying here is that independents, independent conservatives, independent liberals, and probably even some democrats and conservative republicans, DIDN'T stay home from voting because of Romney - but they may have voted for another candidate because of Romney.


Personally, I had this sudden feeling of "****, it's yet another in the long line of rich assholes for president".
 
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The Mark said:
I actually consider myself an independent.

A right-leaning one, however.

And right up til literally the voting booth I was all planning to vote for Romney, because I thought he'd be better than Obama.
The I looked at the screen (electronic voting booths with touchscreens where I vote) and just couldn't bring myself to do it.
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I'm a left-leaning member of a third party, and I didn't vote for Obama in 2012, mostly as a protest vote since in my state it didn't matter anyway. If I lived in, say, Florida, I would have voted for Obama simply because a Republican would absolutely have to blow me away in order to get my vote, and that certainly wasn't the case with Mitt Romney.
 
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I answered yes just to frustrate Navy Pride.
 
Navy Pride said:
No left wing Liberal like you has ever defeated me in a debate.........when you lose you attack the messenger.......typical.
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Lololololol...

Marshawn Lynch called. He wants his autograph back.
 
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Navy Pride said:
You lefties are to ****ing lazy to read the thread...Your probably on food stamps to...:lamo
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You don't even read your own sources. It is a running joke.
 
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I choose not to answer simply because it isn't as solid black or white as you would make it out to be. Obama could have done much more had he not had to deal with such a destructive and obstructive GOP, one that has been so good at influencing and scaring people that it has seeped over to scaring the democrats. Democrats that are running this year will not use Obama to get them elected. See Alison Grimes in KY whom is using Bill Clinton's endorsement instead. Republicans won't vote on crap that they won't just to spite him. The party has gone all out insane. The party panders to a demographic that is ever shrinking. You want to know how computers got so popular? The people that held it back died off.

I think Obama's biggest blunder that should have been a shoe-in was the healthcare act and focusing on that first. He had the entire democratic majority but then somehow we let stupid people like Sarah Palin put fear into us that it was going to kill us somehow and then the entire party got nervous. Most people still have no idea how Obamacare actually works and I can go to 5 different people and get 5 different answers, most of them (being in KY) are negative and most of them are not true. Lastly, his biggest mess-up is he has a big bark but not a lot of bite. Hence why I think him as a person, people love, but as president people are weary of him.

If I had to rank him in the best presidents in my lifetime it would probably go like this though:

1)Clinton
2)Reagan
3)Bush Sr.
4)Obama
5)Bush Jr.

Of course his presidency isn't over but we will see what happens.
 
No. He has been very divisive. And he has upset the balance of power. His lack of executive experience has really been evident during his presidency.

Thats why you dont elect people for feel good reasons. You elect them because they are the best person for the job.
 
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JohnWOlin said:
I choose not to answer simply because it isn't as solid black or white as you would make it out to be. Obama could have done much more had he not had to deal with such a destructive and obstructive GOP, one that has been so good at influencing and scaring people that it has seeped over to scaring the democrats. Democrats that are running this year will not use Obama to get them elected. See Alison Grimes in KY whom is using Bill Clinton's endorsement instead. Republicans won't vote on crap that they won't just to spite him. The party has gone all out insane. The party panders to a demographic that is ever shrinking. You want to know how computers got so popular? The people that held it back died off.

I think Obama's biggest blunder that should have been a shoe-in was the healthcare act and focusing on that first. He had the entire democratic majority but then somehow we let stupid people like Sarah Palin put fear into us that it was going to kill us somehow and then the entire party got nervous. Most people still have no idea how Obamacare actually works and I can go to 5 different people and get 5 different answers, most of them (being in KY) are negative and most of them are not true. Lastly, his biggest mess-up is he has a big bark but not a lot of bite. Hence why I think him as a person, people love, but as president people are weary of him.

If I had to rank him in the best presidents in my lifetime it would probably go like this though:

1)Clinton
2)Reagan
3)Bush Sr.
4)Obama
5)Bush Jr.

Of course his presidency isn't over but we will see what happens.
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So, if republicans dont go along with whatever the dems want, they are obstructive? Careful, your bias is showing.
 
The Mark said:
I actually consider myself an independent.

A right-leaning one, however.

And right up til literally the voting booth I was all planning to vote for Romney, because I thought he'd be better than Obama.
The I looked at the screen (electronic voting booths with touchscreens where I vote) and just couldn't bring myself to do it.


Edit: I guess what I'm saying here is that independents, independent conservatives, independent liberals, and probably even some democrats and conservative republicans, DIDN'T stay home from voting because of Romney - but they may have voted for another candidate because of Romney.


Personally, I had this sudden feeling of "****, it's yet another in the long line of rich assholes for president".
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You are not independent if you voted for obama. Aside from fdr, he is probably the most left potus in history.
 
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