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Should occupancy rates/lock-up quotas for private prisons be illegal?

Should occupancy rates/lock-up quotas for private prisons be illegal?

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chromium said:
If you think there's no incentive for the for profit prison lobby to pursue outrageous laws and sentences, you don't understand corporations at all. They will push for those laws *in addition to* demanding that state run prisons transfer their inmates. They'll charge obscene fees for inmate phone calls or visitors, enraging their loved ones whose only crime was knowing them.

The prison lobby was all over racial profiling in arizona and i'm frankly unable to look up other examples. Too sickened by the idea of any "justice system", let alone ours, being whored out to and at the mercy of profit margin. What do you think will happen when prisons are entirely privatized? We're already at the point of having more prisoners than stalin's gulag.
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I know people that have been to prisons, and the private ones have way better facilities and programs. For the minor inconvenience of transferring enough inmates from state facilities, the state makes use of these improved, modern and economically efficient facilities.

And please, let's not drone on about the evils of corporations until we've had a job or two.
 
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ecofarm said:
I know people that have been to prisons, and the private ones have way better facilities and programs. For the minor inconvenience of transferring enough inmates from state facilities, the state makes use of these improved, modern and efficient facilities.

And please, let's not drone on about the evils of corporations until we've had a job or two.
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Yeah right, where's the profit in it for them *and* the cost saving for the state if they aren't cutting programs or adding fees beyond what's necessary? Or demanding additional "customers" by way of new laws?

And if there is such a path, why can't the state accomplish the same in its own prisons?
 
chromium said:
Or demanding additional "customers" by way of new laws?
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Hysterical CT.

There are more than enough inmates in state facilities to satisfy quotas (the only way to provide investment security) simply by transfers and operating, itself, at less than capacity. There is no incentive for additional arrests or convictions.

I think you need to read the thread (particularly, my posts). You're just inventing nonsense about why and how this is done.
 
Absolutely no prisons should ever be privately owned.


I say this because I can see far too many opportunities for abuse in privatizing such things.


Edit: Then again...there's a ****load of abuse opportunities if they're publicly owned.
 
This is a very dangerous concept. A prison-industrial complex is every bit as dangerous as a military-industrial complex. It could eventually evolve into the vast majority of the population being imprisoned on frivolous and trumped up charges--in other words slaves that could be leased out from and to the minority of elites who run the state and the system.
 
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