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Prostitution

Should prostitution be legalized?

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Summerwind said:
Isn't that the same government that in other threads you claim is entirely incompetent? And yet, you're going to argue with someone who says the numbers are not accurate? Perhaps I'm mistaking you for a different poster and you trust the government.
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Yes, they are working with Planned Parenthood to lure women into abortion factories.
 
If it was legal how many here would be proud to have their daughter start up her own business?

Yes,,, yes, I know the old "its her body" rant.

I think of legalize prostitution packaged so cleanly and nice as those Quick Payday Loan commercials where all the customers look like they just got off work at the local stock market firm. But in reality the customers do not look anything like that.
 
Crosscheck said:
If it was legal how many here would be proud to have their daughter start up her own business?

Yes,,, yes, I know the old "its her body" rant.

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Are ya proud of your son who drives around the porta potty truck, delivering them? How about the janitor? The lawyer? The son picking up the cigarette butts in the park?

I'd be proud of all of them if they were putting food on the table legally.

It's a job choice and legalization makes it safer for everyone. **If society didnt judge and hold it against a woman, it wouldnt even hold her back if she did it to work her way thru college or to support a family while trying to get a better job.** That's not HER fault.....that is judgemental assholes' at fault.
 
Lursa said:
Are ya proud of your son who drives around the porta potty truck, delivering them? How about the janitor? The lawyer? The son picking up the cigarette butts in the park?

I'd be proud of all of them if they were putting food on the table legally.
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Have no problem with him doing any of those jobs. He can even pick up the cigarette butts in the public's view. Would you advocating letting prostitutes operate in the open in that same park in public view?
If it is legal they should be able to have sex right there on the picnic bench , right?

Would you yourself offer your body to any one of the men here for a small bundle of money?
 
Crosscheck said:
Would you yourself offer your body to any one of the men here for a small bundle of money?
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How much? And while I may be easy, I'm not cheep. Plus the uglier you are by my standards the higher the cost.
 
Lursa said:
There's lots of things I dont want on my property or on my street.....what's your point? Are you living in America?

We're talking about legalizing prostitution and you are dreaming up more stuff you dont like. Seems like a personal problem to me.
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So, you are ok having that around your family, or more specifically other peoples families.
 
Thorgasm said:
Decriminalize it and regulate it.

Why is it illegal to sell something that is perfectly fine to give away for free?
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This is my position. It makes no sense to make the exchanging of money illegal for something that is otherwise legal when done for free.

Treat it like a regular business and require business licenses and tax filing, though. And I would be fine with some reasonable health/safety regulations, but that scares me as our government seems incapable at all levels of simply putting reasonable safety measures in place then leaving them alone.
 
Lursa said:
Still a waste of tax payer $$ and very hypocritical IMO as well.

Either it's wrong or it's not.

SOmeone please explain why it's wrong?
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As each municipality can determine how stringently the laws are enforced (how much money is spent on the issue), local standards are used in determining whether or not tax dollars are or are not being "wasted" pursuing the matter.

As for morality, there is both a traditional religous prohibition of the practice (which a certain percentage of the public rejects) and there is also the concept that the State reserves the ability to limit negative social impacts from certain practices.

For example, the State can ban:
-commercial gambling, commercial alcohol sales, exploitive home loans (even if the buyer is willing to make the purchase under those conditions), usury (even if there is a willing borrower), and exploitve labor / share cropping contracts (even if there is a willing employee).

With usury,and expolitive loans and contracts, the fact that there is no readily identifiable "victim" does not mean that the State cannot ban the practices legal.
 
Cryptic said:
As each municipality can determine how stringently the laws are enforced (how much money is spent on the issue), local standards are used in determining whether or not tax dollars are or are not being "wasted" pursuing the matter.

As for morality, there is both a traditional religous prohibition of the practice (which a certain percentage of the public rejects) and there is also the concept that the State reserves the ability to limit negative social impacts from certain practices.

For example, the State can ban:
-commercial gambling, commercial alcohol sales, exploitive home loans (even if the buyer is willing to make the purchase under those conditions), usury (even if there is a willing borrower), and exploitve labor / share cropping contracts (even if there is a willing employee).

With usury,and expolitive loans and contracts, the fact that there is no readily identifiable "victim" does not mean that the State cannot ban the practices legal.
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Yeah, finally! Please tell me the negative social impacts? Please show how things like you listed are different for prosititution or how they could not be dealt with by regulation like every other business? You named a lot of 'exploitive' things. Pretty sure regulation would make it safer for public and women and make it less exploitive for women. Are johns being exploited?

Also, if someone is exploited, there is a victim. The fact that they cant be identified doesnt mean there isnt one. And if there is one, it's not a victimless crime.

(I am still completely against hypocritical things like you describe where something is illegal but 'ignored,' That leads to tyranny...dictatorships in each municipality. Esp. where no harm can be proven)
 
CRUE CAB said:
Prove it.
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If the business were legalized there would be no need for (or tolerance of) street prostitution. It's legal to sell cigarettes...it's NOT legal to sell cigarettes on the street without proper tax and business standards.

So...new model. A legal sex office. Nice lobby, secretary, and 'office'. Good wages, taxes, health care benefits if you work for someone else, unions....just like any other business. Eliminate the need for illegal street prostitution and you reduce the number of 'victims'.

Believe it or not some people really like having sex and would have no problem doing it as a job. I know 2 women that are quite open about and proud of their prowess at oral sex and by their own account enjoy doing it. Make it fun, profitable...life could be pretty good.
 
Crosscheck said:
Have no problem with him doing any of those jobs. He can even pick up the cigarette butts in the public's view. Would you advocating letting prostitutes operate in the open in that same park in public view?
If it is legal they should be able to have sex right there on the picnic bench , right?

Would you yourself offer your body to any one of the men here for a small bundle of money?
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Why do you look at things in terms of extremes? Do we allow doctors to practice in the middle of the park in public view? Do you think prostitutes and johns dont prefer privacy?

People cannot even drink and smoke in public in most places....and those are legal.

And why do I have to approve of prostitution to support it's legalization? Of course I wouldnt....there are millions of jobs I would hate.


You have to resort to extremes because you have no realistic argument. You just have a moral indignation that you are trying to shore up with 'fake' reasoning.
 
VanceMack said:
If the business were legalized there would be no need for (or tolerance of) street prostitution. It's legal to sell cigarettes...it's NOT legal to sell cigarettes on the street without proper tax and business standards.

So...new model. A legal sex office. Nice lobby, secretary, and 'office'. Good wages, taxes, health care benefits if you work for someone else, unions....just like any other business. Eliminate the need for illegal street prostitution and you reduce the number of 'victims'.

Believe it or not some people really like having sex and would have no problem doing it as a job. I know 2 women that are quite open about and proud of their prowess at oral sex and by their own account enjoy doing it. Make it fun, profitable...life could be pretty good.
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Giving in and giving up is a sign of weakness. We are weak if we legalize it.
 
CRUE CAB said:
Giving in and giving up is a sign of weakness. We are weak if we legalize it.
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The Taliban agrees with you. In fact, they are tougher than us using that standard.
 
CRUE CAB said:
So, you are ok having that around your family, or more specifically other peoples families.
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You mean, like bars and dumps and other things that can be offensive (and those 2 can even lead to physical danger)? Those are generally zoned.


Your question was mostly a joke anyway, right? If people CHOSE to have sex in public, wanted to, we'd see it all the time, free or commercial. And it if it's in a building....why is your nose in there anymore that someone else's bedroom? You really do have an issue with imagining sex everywhere.
 
CRUE CAB said:
Giving in and giving up is a sign of weakness. We are weak if we legalize it.
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Giving in to what? Common sense? :shrug:

Truth be told, true strength is having the cahones to admit that what we've always done has always not worked and been wrong.
 
CRUE CAB said:
Giving in and giving up is a sign of weakness. We are weak if we legalize it.
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Yes, it's so much better to do the wrong thing just to look tough.
 
radcen said:
Giving in to what? Common sense? :shrug:

Truth be told, true strength is having the cahones to admit that what we've always done has always not worked and been wrong.
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Don't work because there is no real punishment.
 
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