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Whites Need Not Apply?[W:68]

Mutliple Choice - Check all statement you see as true:

  • A white person should not teach minority children.

    Votes: 2 3.3%
  • A person of a minority race cannot teach white children.

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Race is not a factor on a person's competency to teach anything.

    Votes: 37 61.7%
  • Making the race of a teacher an issue is in itself racist.

    Votes: 18 30.0%
  • I have a completely different perspective and will explain.

    Votes: 3 5.0%

  • Total voters
    60
This is why your whole argument is BS. You expand your position to encompass as much as possible while ignoring that social power dynamics in a small town can be quite different than even a whole nation.

I can move away from any insignificant geographic location, and those locations are the result of injustice. Let's not pretend that a black moving to a ghetto escapes injustice. Blacks cannot move away, the location is society and not geographic.
 
Go to Chicago and Detroit in the black neighborhoods, or any other black neighborhood, and I bet you get the same thing. Or go to one of the various Asian neighborhoods. Or the Hispanic neighborhoods and they all say the same things as the "whites" do about other races and whites. Guess what, they aint any more racist than anyone else in this country of any color or persuasion. What you call bigoted I call ignorant, or more likely lazy. The proof is their ability to get along with others not like them. Fact is this country is not racist, not by a long shot, and definitely when compared to the rest of the world not even close to racist.


No, just had the misfortune of meeting actual racists, bigoted SOB's no mistaking them for what they really were. They called themselves Kuwaitis, and Saudis ect. The US version of racist and the worlds are two completely different things.

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I wasn't dropping context.

Of course you were. If you want to argue that an American black can move to Africa to avoid racial injustice, I'd argue that Africa is oppressed by the West. At national and global scale, blacks suffer injustice.


You specifically brought in the global aspect. Therefore you must accede to your own argument...or disregard it.

I don't think that word means what you think it means.
 
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Schools are decentralize for a reason. There is nothing wrong for people of a community to have sway in educational decisions.

Each city/community can structure it as the voters want. It is their money.

For this case I cannot remember the article saying how they had in this case. I also missed a comment on regulation regarding government decisions on selecting employees by color.
 
So here we are. Who agrees that a white man cannot teach cultural studies? And can a black man teach Latino and SoutheastAsian studies if a white man cannot teach black studies? Or has the world gone absolutely nuts?

Black community leaders in Fresno, Calif., are urging the Fresno Unified School District to re-evaluate the hiring of a white guy to​
teach three cultural studies courses at a brand-new middleschool that will overwhelmingly serve minority students.

Rutherford B. Gaston Middle School — named after the city’s first blackprincipal — will open in a few short weeks. It’s the first middle school in the immediate, poverty-ridden vicinity since 1979.

The protesters are unhappy because the school has chosen to hire Peter Beck, aperson with white skin, over other, unidentified candidates, The Fresno Bee reports.

Beck will teach African-American studies, Latino studies and Southeast Asian studies. . . .

. . .“We’re just saying what the community wants,” said Rev. Karen Crozier, oneof the activists. “We didn’t fight for a white male or female teacher to educate our babies.”

Crozier, who appears to be a professor at Fresno Pacific Biblical Seminary, also suggested that a white person cannot teach minority children in this instance because of racism. . . .

http://dailycaller.com/2014/07/29/black-leaders-in-fresno-oppose-white-cultural-studies-teacher/


if this is true i do believe that this violates several federal hiring laws.
 
Of course you were. If you want to argue that an American black can move to Africa to avoid racial injustice, I'd argue that Africa is oppressed by the West. At national and global scale, blacks suffer injustice.

Wow...just....wow. So no matter what, to you, whites are the problem no matter what.

I'm done here. Arguing with extremists is about as useful as tits on a boar hog.
 
Wow...just....wow. So no matter what, to you, whites are the problem no matter what.

False. Whites are not the problem, racism is. Racism results not just from racial bigotry but a system supporting injustice and privilege. Your inability to explain the difference between racial bigotry and racism is noted.

Your manic repetition (bolded) demonstrates your cognitive hysteria resulting from irrational absolutes.

I'm done here. Arguing with extremists is about as useful as tits on a boar hog.

Buh bye.


If you get a chance, tell us about the importance of perpetuating "white culture" and the "white race". You do believe in the importance of those things, right?
 
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False. Whites are not the problem, racism is. Racism results not just from racial bigotry, but a system supporting injustice and privilege.

And according to what you just posted whites are the only ones that are racist across the whole globe.

If you get a chance, tell us about the importance of perpetuating "white culture" and the "white race". You do believe in the importance of those things, right?

I already answered your question. You were too busy ignoring large chunks of my posts so prolly missed it.
 
And according to what you just posted whites are the only ones that are racist across the whole globe.

That's true (at a global scale), but it does not mean whites are the problem. You see... you are absorbed in demonizing a race and avoiding reality. If you could get away from blaming race, and focus on blaming people that perpetuate social constructs, perhaps you would understand the problem. Unfortunately, you will probably remain fixated on blaming race instead of understanding the issue.

Your propensity to blame race is noted.

Why do you find it necessary to blame race instead of people? Is it because of an assumed innocence of whites that you cannot bear to give up?

I already answered your question. You were too busy ignoring large chunks of my posts so prolly missed it.

Tell us about the importance of "white culture" and the "white race", without hiding your position in gibberish.
 
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That's true (at a global scale)

nope its factually false and will always be factually false.

You have been trying to sell this mentally retarded, dishonest, intellectually/logically and factually unsupportable lie for a long time and the results are the same each time.
Honest educated people laugh at a suggestion so factually wrong proven over and over again by the pure definition of words, facts and reality.
Each time its brought up it gets DESTROYED by many posters and facts and you have never been able to post ONE accurate, logical or factual thing to support. Its pure comedy and will continue to be. So please continue, so we again can continue to laugh at such a mentally inept strawman. LMAO
 
nope its factually false and will always be factually false.

:yawn:

Absolutes are so boring and spamming them only demonstrates a lack of knowledge. Case in point: you have no idea what the future holds but you claim to be a psychic in rhetorical desperation. Pathetic.

We've all seen the routine, no one respects it; feel free to continue spewing (madly fonted) gibberish.
 
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Absolutes are so boring and spamming them only demonstrates a lack of knowledge.

Case in point: you have no idea what the future holds but you claim to be a psychic in rhetorical desperation. Pathetic.

We've all seen the routine, no one respects it. Fell free to continue spewing (madly fonted) gibberish.


Translation: You still haven't posted any facts to support your failed and factually proven wrong claims, cant and wont so you continue to deflect while we continue to laugh at such failed suggestions

LMAO I knew you would post anythign to support your proven wrong claims, we all knew it lol

anybody want to take bets this doesnt change

You post gets destroyed and facts win again!
 
Try a new routine?
BAM! called it!
still nothing

PLEASE, we beg you, in your next post PLEASE PLEASE support your factually proven wrong claim that: minorities cant be racist or practice racism. . . . . . I bet you wont and cant . . . .

Direct challenge, support your obnoxious, dishonest, retarded and mentally inept "claim" with FACTS or it just further cements the complete failure of the comical lie you continue to re-post

count down to next deflection begins now . . . . . .
 
BAM! called it!
still nothing

PLEASE, we beg you, in your next post PLEASE PLEASE support your factually proven wrong claim that: minorities cant be racist or practice racism. . . . . . I bet you wont and cant . . . .

Direct challenge, support your obnoxious, dishonest, retarded and mentally inept "claim" with FACTS or it just further cements the complete failure of the comical lie you continue to re-post

count down to next deflection begins now . . . . . .

Your replies to me herein are like a rabid attack dog unleashed on unsuspecting and innocent people. There's no rhyme or reason, there's no substance whatsoever. You have just spewed empty crap for three posts in a row.

Are you even aware of the subject? Because nothing in your posts demonstrates so. When you would like to discuss the issue, instead of spewing random crap, let me know.
 
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Such courses are different and often specific to race and/or culture. If I had a pick, I would choose a person close to whatever the course taught and may even have direct experience with the culture/history (for instance someone that had direct experience with the civil rights movement and is a candidate for teaching black American history.) It would be equally important for such a person to have excellent qualification for teaching. I see nothing wrong with trying to recruit such a person. Direct experience for any course is important. To pretend it's not and it's racist is not looking at reality.

To pretend that a course specific to race is not racist is not looking at reality. The public schools have a duty to teach ALL of history and to teach the American culture. To explain how other cultures have blended into and modified the uniquely American culture is fine. But there are hundreds if not thousands of different cultures. To single one out of the whole to emphasize as somehow more important than any others is just wrong. And it perpetuates racism.
 
Your replies to me herein are like a rabid attack dog unleashed in on unsuspecting and innocent people. There's no rhyme or reason, there's no substance whatsoever. You have just spewed empty crap for three posts in a row.

Are you even aware of the subject? Because nothing in your posts demonstrates so. When you would like to discuss the issue, instead of spewing random crap, let me know.
BAM another deflection! LMAO

Translation: you still have nothing and continue to post dishonest and defection. Nobody is fooled.

please try to focus on the topic and not me, let us know when you have facts to back up your false claims, thank you
 
It's pretty doubtful, in the USA, for a minority individual, regardless of immediate familial socio-economic level, to be unaffected by racism. Just not at all likely. And if, and that's a REALLY BIG IF, by some chance a minority individual and his immediate family are lucky enough in the USA to have never experienced racism, they surely have an extended family and/or friends that have and therefore are nonetheless more aware than a white who has never and has no relatives/friends that have.

It is a rare individual that has not experienced something unpleasant or an obstacle in life. So we can tell people or reinforce their opinion that they are somehow more disadvantaged or victimized than everybody else because of the obstacles they have to overcome, or we can acknowledge that some stuff in our lives is just ****ty but we don't have to let it define who or what we will be. The wars against slavery and racism and segregation and discrimination have been fought and won. It is time to stop fighting them and start teaching people to see themselves as Americans where skin color is of no more importance than hair color or eye color. THAT is how you remove the last vestiges of racism. You don't do it by emphasizing differences, separating people into groups, and thereby keep it constantly alive.
 
Irony. You have contributed nothing except foaming gibberish.

Good day.

Again simply please support your failed and factually proven wrong position, admit its wrong or let it further be exposed. Failed, comical desperate attacks on me wont help your false statments.

Facts win again
 
Again simply please support your failed and factually proven wrong position, admit its wrong or let it further be exposed. Failed, comical desperate attacks on me wont help your false statments.

Again (for the 5th time) not a single mention of the topic. You're just spewing crap at someone without even pretending to take part in debate.


Facts win again

You need a new routine. Inanimate objects don't "win"; do attempt some connection to reality.
 
if this is true i do believe that this violates several federal hiring laws.

It is true--some of the mainstream media picked it up. But my interest here is not what is LEGAL. I personally think it should be LEGAL for anybody to hire whomever they want to do whatever. My interest is in the absolute unimaginable racist hypocrisy of it plus the absurdity that a person has to be of a certain skin color to teach certain subjects.
 
I don't know the "institutionalized racism" argument, but I'll attempt to shed some light.

Minorities cannot be racist against the majority because there are not societal impacts of their racial bigotry regarding systemic injustice/privilege at the social scale in question (national or global). As racism is a social construct, it can only be defined by social factors.

Now, regarding your incorrect context. You see, the white person can move and no longer be the subject of racial bigotry. A black person cannot move away from racial bigotry present throughout society. Since a white person can move to escape, and a black person cannot, these are not the same situations. Thus, the context to be examined in determining systemic injustice/privilege is that of national or global.


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Well I'll.assume you're one of the two who voted for choice 1. Racism for the win!!... oh one more thing, are you not the one who calls everyone a victim??? Lol
 
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