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If Obama had not been president, would Putin be expanding? Would 154 Dutch be dead?

If Obama had not been president, would Putin be expanding? Would 154 Dutch be dead?

  • Yes Putin would still be expanding with Romney

    Votes: 13 86.7%

  • No

    Votes: 2 13.3%
  • Total voters
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Re: If Obama had not been president, would Putin be expanding? Would 154 Dutch be dea

Paschendale said:
Believe it or not, most of the world doesn't care who the American president is. We certainly do here in the United States, but most of the rest of the world cares about their own leaders, not ours.
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Correct. To prove your point, ask any 10 US citizens to name three world leaders other than Obama and Putin. You will be lucky to find one.
 
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I'm also not sure why Obama should care to take aggressive action against Russia for the dead European Union citizens when it isn't obvious that the European Union is going to take aggressive action for the dead European Union citizens. Why should we raise the stakes on Europe's behalf?
 
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Ryan5 said:
DutchNews.nl - Ukraine air disaster leaves 295 dead, 154 are Dutch nationals

I do wonder if the ultra leftists of Western Europeans are still happy, especially the Dutch, that Obama was elected, seeing as 154 Dutch just were killed by Vladimir Putin's expansionist forces, rebels.
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[h=3]Ukraine air disaster leaves 295 dead, 154 are Dutch nationals[/h]Thursday 17 July 2014
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Smouldering wreckage at the crash site. Photo: Reuters
At least 154 Dutch nationals were on board the Malaysian Airlines plane thought to have been brought down by a rocket over Ukraine.
Malaysian Airways spokesman Huib Gorter told a press conference at Amsterdam’s Schiphol airport on Thursday evening 154 Dutch nationals, 27 Australians, 23 Malaysian, 11 Indonesians, six British nationals, four Germans, four Belgians, three Filipinos and one Canadian were on board.

The nationality of 47 other passengers has not yet been determined.

The Malaysian Airways plane left Schiphol airport on Thursday afternoon with 295 people on board and crashed in Ukraine shortly after 14.15 hours.

The Boeing 777, with 280 passengers and 15 crew, was en route for Kuala Lumpur.

The Ukraine authorities say the plane was brought down by pro-Russian separatists but this has been denied by the groups themselves, broadcaster Nos said.

According to American media reports, the plane was brought down by some form of rocket. Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko has described it as 'an act of terrorism'.
According to website nu.nl, airspace over Ukraine has been closed. Other media reports say some airlines are now avoiding Ukraine.
King
Dutch king Willem-Alexander issued a statement saying he was 'deeply shocked' by the news.

'We offer our deepest sympathy to the families, friends and colleagues of the victims and to those who are still uncertain if their loved ones were on board the plane,' the short statement said.
The Dutch foreign ministry has opened a phone line for relatives to ring for further information: 00 31 70 348 77 70.
Independent inquiry
Journalist Noah Sneider said on Twitter: 'At crash site of #MH17. Bodies everywhere, organs splayed out. Too gruesome to post photographs. This is an absolute disaster. #ukraine.'
Dutch foreign minister Frans Timmermans has said investigators must have 'unhindered access' to the crash site. There must be an independent investigation into the disaster, he said.
The foreign ministry is sending extra officials to Kiev to help out at the Dutch embassy.
BBC news reports
New York Times journalist at the scene
Kyiv Post report of transcript featuring pro Russian rebels discussing downing of plane.
© DutchNews.nl
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Could you use a larger font?

I can barely read your post :roll:
 
Re: If Obama had not been president, would Putin be expanding? Would 154 Dutch be dea

Ryan5 said:
DutchNews.nl - Ukraine air disaster leaves 295 dead, 154 are Dutch nationals

I do wonder if
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the ultra leftists of Western Europeans are still happy, especially the Dutch, that Obama was elected, seeing as 154 Dutch just were killed by Vladimir Putin's expansionist forces, rebels.




[h=3]Ukraine air disaster leaves 295 dead, 154 are Dutch nationals[/h]Thursday 17 July 2014
ukraine%20plane%20crash.jpg

Smouldering wreckage at the crash site. Photo: Reuters
At least 154 Dutch nationals were on board the Malaysian Airlines plane thought to have been brought down by a rocket over Ukraine.
Malaysian Airways spokesman Huib Gorter told a press conference at Amsterdam’s Schiphol airport on Thursday evening 154 Dutch nationals, 27 Australians, 23 Malaysian, 11 Indonesians, six British nationals, four Germans, four Belgians, three Filipinos and one Canadian were on board.

The nationality of 47 other passengers has not yet been determined.

The Malaysian Airways plane left Schiphol airport on Thursday afternoon with 295 people on board and crashed in Ukraine shortly after 14.15 hours.

The Boeing 777, with 280 passengers and 15 crew, was en route for Kuala Lumpur.

The Ukraine authorities say the plane was brought down by pro-Russian separatists but this has been denied by the groups themselves, broadcaster Nos said.

According to American media reports, the plane was brought down by some form of rocket. Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko has described it as 'an act of terrorism'.
According to website nu.nl, airspace over Ukraine has been closed. Other media reports say some airlines are now avoiding Ukraine.
King
Dutch king Willem-Alexander issued a statement saying he was 'deeply shocked' by the news.

'We offer our deepest sympathy to the families, friends and colleagues of the victims and to those who are still uncertain if their loved ones were on board the plane,' the short statement said.
The Dutch foreign ministry has opened a phone line for relatives to ring for further information: 00 31 70 348 77 70.
Independent inquiry
Journalist Noah Sneider said on Twitter: 'At crash site of #MH17. Bodies everywhere, organs splayed out. Too gruesome to post photographs. This is an absolute disaster. #ukraine.'
Dutch foreign minister Frans Timmermans has said investigators must have 'unhindered access' to the crash site. There must be an independent investigation into the disaster, he said.
The foreign ministry is sending extra officials to Kiev to help out at the Dutch embassy.
BBC news reports
New York Times journalist at the scene
Kyiv Post report of transcript featuring pro Russian rebels discussing downing of plane.
© DutchNews.nl
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If your aunt was a man s/he would be your auncle, eh?

But your aunt isn't a man, and Barack Obama is president of the USA.




Deal with it, Obama will be in the White House until another Democrat moves in in 2017.
 
Re: If Obama had not been president, would Putin be expanding? Would 154 Dutch be dea

jimbo said:
Correct. To prove your point, ask any 10 US citizens to name three world leaders other than Obama and Putin. You will be lucky to find one.
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Just ask them to name major leaders from Canada or Mexico. I include myself here. I have no idea who runs Mexico. Though now that I point it out, I feel that I ought to find out.
 
Re: If Obama had not been president, would Putin be expanding? Would 154 Dutch be dea

Awesome! said:
I shudder at the thought...If Obama wasnt president 30% of the country would be dead due to the lack of proper healthcare and women's rights would be set back 70 years.
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I have only one question to ask of this comment.

Wonder what the hell kept them alive to the point when they finally had PROPER HEALTHCARE? And women's rights? My God! We should appoint Obama our first permanent dictator. One thing we REALLY DO KNOW...the U.S. can save a lot of money with Obama as the permanent dictator, as he has proven he doesn't need a legislative branch of the government. He legislates his OWN laws.

For a Yes/No vote I have no idea how to respond to that poll.
 
Re: If Obama had not been president, would Putin be expanding? Would 154 Dutch be dea

Paschendale said:
Just ask them to name major leaders from Canada or Mexico. I include myself here.
I have no idea who runs Mexico.
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 Though now that I point it out, I feel that I ought to find out.
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The drug cartels in Mexico have a lot of control, but Enrique Nieto is the current president.
 
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