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Should we force parties to alternate colors?

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Should we force parties to alternate colors every so many years, like every four or so?



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Damn, messed this one up.
No poll options.

Speak your mind.


I do not believe any party should have a permanent claim on a color.

So I would be more than fine with forcing a switch.
 
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No. Seems like kindve a silly infringement on free speech.
 
I don't think the Green Party would like that.
 
No. Seems like kindve a silly infringement on free speech.
Well if the Dems wished to represent themselves with the color red then we have an issue of free speech.
If the Pubs wished to represent themselves with the color blue then we have an issue of free speech.

Or if a third party wanted to identify itself with red or blue then we have an issue.

No party should have a claim to a color.


I don't think the Green Party would like that.
Green is an ideology. That ideology can still be represented by a different color.
 
Should we force parties to alternate colors every so many years, like every four or so?



:doh
Damn, messed this one up.
No poll options.

Speak your mind.


I do not believe any party should have a permanent claim on a color.

So I would be more than fine with forcing a switch.

Just when you think the complaining couldn't be more trivial...
 
Just when you think the complaining couldn't be more trivial...
Said the one complaining. :doh

Get over it. It is a question.
 
I think we should get rid of the colors and switch to patterns for no reason other than how wacky it would look during the election.

Could you imagine seeing some states checkerboard and others polka dotted?

Then the enthusiasts could paint themselves like super fans either checkerboard or polka dot during the election.
 
I think we should get rid of the colors and switch to patterns for no reason other than how wacky it would look during the election.

Could you imagine seeing some states checkerboard and others polka dotted?

Then the enthusiasts could paint themselves like super fans either checkerboard or polka dot during the election.

But then some knucklehead would complain that one party was tying up the more attractive plaid.
 
Should we force parties to alternate colors every so many years, like every four or so?



:doh
Damn, messed this one up.
No poll options.

Speak your mind.


I do not believe any party should have a permanent claim on a color.

So I would be more than fine with forcing a switch.

I think it is stupid changing it every 4 years and it could lead to confusion.So I am against changing it.

Here is a little history on it the color usage.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_states_and_blue_states
Before the 2000 presidential election, the traditional color-coding scheme was "Blue for Republican, Red for Democrat,"[3] in line with historical European associations (red was used for left-leaning parties).[4] Traditional political mapmakers, at least throughout the 20th century, have used blue to represent the modern-day Republicans, and the Federalists who preceded them. Perhaps this was a holdover from the days of the Civil War when the predominantly Republican North was “Blue”.[3] However, at that time a maker of widely sold maps accompanied them with blue pencils to mark Confederate force movements and red pencils to mark Union force movements.[5]

Even earlier, in the 1888 presidential election, Grover Cleveland and Benjamin Harrison used maps that coded blue for the Republicans, the color Cleveland perceived to represent the Union and "Lincoln's Party", and red for the Democrats.[6


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Contemporary usage

The advent of color television prompted television news reporters to rely on color-coded electoral maps, though sources conflict as to the conventions they followed. One source claims that in the six elections prior to 2000 every Democrat but one had been coded red.It further claims that from 1976 to 2004, the broadcast networks, in an attempt to avoid favoritism in color-coding, standardized on the convention of alternating every four years between blue and red the color used for the incumbent party.[SUP][9][/SUP][SUP][10][/SUP] According to another source, in 1976, John Chancellor, the anchorman for NBC Nightly News, asked his network's engineers to construct a large illuminated map of the USA. The map was placed in the network's election-night news studio. If Jimmy Carter, the Democratic candidate that year, won a state, it would light up in red; if Gerald Ford, the incumbent Republican president, carried a state, it would light up in blue. The feature proved to be so popular that four years later all three major television networks would use colors to designate the states won by the presidential candidates on Election Night, though not all using the same color scheme. NBC continued to use the color scheme employed in 1976 for several years. NBC newsman David Brinkley famously referred to the 1980 election map outcome as showing Ronald Reagan's 44-state landslide as resembling a "suburban swimming pool".[SUP][11][/SUP]
 
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and it could lead to confusion.
We do not vote by color, so only idiots would be confused by a color over a persons name or party designation.

There simply is no need for any permanent color designation of a Party.





I think we should get rid of the colors and switch to patterns for no reason other than how wacky it would look during the election.

Could you imagine seeing some states checkerboard and others polka dotted?

Then the enthusiasts could paint themselves like super fans either checkerboard or polka dot during the election.
While plaid immediately came to mind you would still have color issues. But other patterns could be used and could be varied every four years also.





But then some knucklehead would complain that one party was tying up the more attractive plaid.
Go figure, huh?

Maybe the pattern spoke about should be a black and white bar code. :mrgreen:
But I am sure someone would make an insinuation that it was racist.
 
Why? What would be the purpose of it?
 
Should we force parties to alternate colors every so many years, like every four or so?



:doh
Damn, messed this one up.
No poll options.

Speak your mind.


I do not believe any party should have a permanent claim on a color.

So I would be more than fine with forcing a switch.

If you go back to the 1980's or the 70's Republicans and Republican dominated states were always identified as BLUE. Democrat as RED.

There are more than a few sources to explain why Republicans went from being blue to red and Democrats from red to blue.

But the obviouse is that at the end of the Cold War when the change happened. Republicans were no longer blue but red and Democrats were no longer red but blue.

The left wing tried to distance themselves that they got their butts kicked big time when the Wall came crumbling down. Kicked so bad that they ran to hide behind the color of blue.
 
If you go back to the 1980's or the 70's Republicans and Republican dominated states were always identified as BLUE. Democrat as RED.

There are more than a few sources to explain why Republicans went from being blue to red and Democrats from red to blue.

But the obviouse is that at the end of the Cold War when the change happened. Republicans were no longer blue but red and Democrats were no longer red but blue.

The left wing tried to distance themselves that they got their butts kicked big time when the Wall came crumbling down. Kicked so bad that they ran to hide behind the color of blue.

Yes.
If anything, history shows that it has never been set in stone or the Party's choice.

And was even alternated at one time with no problems.


As jamesrage provided from wiki.

... the broadcast networks, in an attempt to avoid favoritism in color-coding, standardized on the convention of alternating every four years between blue and red the color used for the incumbent party.
[...]

Thank you both for the history lessons.

While I do not think history should be determinative of such a question, the underlined is a valid reason.
 
Should we force parties to alternate colors every so many years, like every four or so?
:doh
Damn, messed this one up.
No poll options.

Speak your mind.

I do not believe any party should have a permanent claim on a color.

So I would be more than fine with forcing a switch.

Sad thing is, it would probably influence the vote.
 
The left wing tried to distance themselves that they got their butts kicked big time when the Wall came crumbling down. Kicked so bad that they ran to hide behind the color of blue.

According to Jamesrage:
Before the 2000 presidential election, the traditional color-coding scheme was "Blue for Republican, Red for Democrat

Which wall fell down in 2000?
 
According to Jamesrage:
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According to Wiki, which he clearly indicated it came from.


Which wall fell down in 2000?
Wall?
Who said it had to be a wall?
For all we know, it could have been liberals in the media trying to portray themselves in what they thought was Reagan Blue just to make themselves look more appealing.
 
We do not vote by color, so only idiots would be confused by a color over a persons name or party designation.

It would lead to confusion as to who is winning.Plus both left and right talk show hows wouldn't be able to go the red state this the blue state that.
 
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According to Wiki, which he clearly indicated it came from.


Wall?
Who said it had to be a wall?
For all we know, it could have been liberals in the media trying to portray themselves in what they thought was Reagan Blue just to make themselves look more appealing.

Apacherat was trying to imply that Dems initiated the colour change because of the fall of the Berlin Wall. I was showing how that statement was false.
 
It would lead to confusion as to who is winning.
How?
The television host would be telling you who the color represents, as well as any internet or newspaper source would also be telling you whom the colors represented.
Like they probably did when Republicans were Blue and Democrats were Red.
Was there any confusion noted when they switched previously?

So like I said; Only idiots would be confused by a color over a persons name or party designation.
You can be against it all you want. But really, only an idiot would be confused by a change.
 
I'd think that, in the interests of maintaining the attention of an already apathetic, ignorant and vacillating electorate, you'd leave things as they are. They're barely cognizant as it is; why jeopardise whatever tenuous grasp you already have of a base hardly noted for its capacity to adapt on a dime?
 
I'd think that, in the interests of maintaining the attention of an already apathetic, ignorant and vacillating electorate, you'd leave things as they are. They're barely cognizant as it is; why jeopardise whatever tenuous grasp you already have of a base hardly noted for its capacity to adapt on a dime?
You mean "you already have"?

They did it before and there was no problem. The electorate apparently was able to adapt just fine.
Leaving it like it is, is polarizing.
We do not need that.
 
You mean "you already have"?
What?

They did it before and there was no problem. The electorate apparently was able to adapt just fine.
Leaving it like it is, is polarizing.
We do not need that.
Polarity is a given, and defined by circumstance and inertia, not the pretty colours.
 
I'd think that, in the interests of maintaining the attention of an already apathetic, ignorant and vacillating electorate, you'd leave things as they are. They're barely cognizant as it is; why jeopardise whatever tenuous grasp you already have of a base hardly noted for its capacity to adapt on a dime?
You mean "you already have"?
What?
Do you not see what is underlined?


Polarity is a given, and defined by circumstance and inertia, not the pretty colours.
As we are already polarized we do not need more separating us. Is that such a hard concept to understand?
It was done previously and there were no problems.
 
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