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Bush vs Obama

Bush vs Obama overall who did a better job on all matters.


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Bush's main failings were the optional Wars, and his torching of our National Reputation(foreign relations). Oh, 9/11 as well, though his management was supreme.
Obama has failed more times than one can count, but he did inherit a worse situation, and none of his failings were on the Bush scale
I think in the end, Bush will be viewed as the moron he is, and Obama as the mediocre president he was

The fact that Bush is being voted higher at this point in this poll just shows the hyper partisan, low information political environment right now.
 
Which is worse, being waterboarded or having your fingernails removed slowly one by one?

It's essentially the same question....
 
If you are going by that Poll, how do you figure?

Ranked from best to worst, the poll found these results for the “best president” of modern times:


  1. Ronald Reagan 35 percent
  2. Bill Clinton 18 percent
  3. John F. Kennedy 15 percent
  4. Barack Obama 8 percent
  5. Dwight Eisenhower 5 percent
  6. Harry S. Truman 4 percent
  7. Lyndon B. Johnson (tie) 3 percent
  8. George H.W. Bush (tie) 3 percent
  9. Jimmy Carter 2 percent
  10. Richard Nixon (tie) 1 percent
  11. Gerald Ford (tie) 1 percent
  12. George W. Bush (tie) 1 percent

Read more at Barack Obama, George W. Bush: Who Was The Worst President? [Poll]

Nope, the second poll.
OBAMA#1 worst POTUS

Barack Obama 33 percent
George W. Bush 28 percent
Richard Nixon 13 percent
Jimmy Carter 8 percent
Lyndon B. Johnson (tie for 5th) 3 percent
Ronald Reagan (tie for 5th) 3 percent
Bill Clinton (tie for 5th) 3 percent
Gerald Ford (tie for 8th) 2 percent
George H.W. Bush (tie for 8th) 2 percent
Dwight Eisenhower 1 percent
Harry S. Truman less than 1 percent (tie)
John F. Kennedy less than 1 percent (tie)

Read more at Barack Obama, George W. Bush: Who Was The Worst President? [Poll]
 
Nope, the second poll.
OBAMA#1 worst POTUS

Barack Obama 33 percent
George W. Bush 28 percent
Richard Nixon 13 percent
Jimmy Carter 8 percent
Lyndon B. Johnson (tie for 5th) 3 percent
Ronald Reagan (tie for 5th) 3 percent
Bill Clinton (tie for 5th) 3 percent
Gerald Ford (tie for 8th) 2 percent
George H.W. Bush (tie for 8th) 2 percent
Dwight Eisenhower 1 percent
Harry S. Truman less than 1 percent (tie)
John F. Kennedy less than 1 percent (tie)

Read more at Barack Obama, George W. Bush: Who Was The Worst President? [Poll]
OK. Well one shows he is in 4th place as the best and another has him in 1st place as the worst. Polls are funny, huh?

Just makes me wonder just how Barack and GWB got in for two terms. Maybe that kind of poll (Where people go out in November to vote.) has more substance to it than one taken from a media source, huh. :roll:
 
Well, that's just your opinion, man.

I might ask why you think the U.S. Constitution is so special when none of the Founding Fathers -- even the ones who supported its adoption -- thought of it as a magical document. For the most part, response was muted in the same way liberals and conservatives respond to Obama Care. Hamilton's camp thought they needed even more central power, Jefferson's thought they needed to stick closer to the original to the Articles. Everyone was pretty surly and pissed, but they needed something that would allow them to form a government that could face the imperial powers of Europe on equal diplomatic and military footing that they couldn't have as a confederacy.

Anyway, the people have changed because the world has changed. In a frontier society, opportunity -- the opportunity to improve one's self and one's condition -- is the direction of the frontier and is as far away as the next unincorporated territory. In the 21st century, opportunity is a leading export that most people don't have the economic standing to pursue and which wouldn't help them if they did. Gunpowder was the biggest threat, and it was a continent away -- the nearest threat was the sticks and stones of hostile Native Americans. These days, super plagues, nuclear bombs, rapidly dwindling resources and hunger for new territories, climate change, rogue states, and proliferating terrorism are the biggest threats, with missiles they can reach anywhere in the world in an hour. Responding to threats requires collectivization on a scale unimaginable to the Founding Fathers; a 1700s local militia might be able to guide people away from a flood or fight Native Americans, but it can't stop North Korea from pursuing nuclear technology.

As a last resort, anyone in the 1700s could avoid starvation and supplement their diet by hunting and trapping, a feat reduced mostly to recreation in a society where populations are tens of thousands of times bigger and only factory farming on a super massive industrial scale can provide humans with enough food to remain fed. Aka, self-reliance is hopeless on a fundamental level; if everyone had to be self reliant, tens or hundreds of millions of people would have to die because nature wasn't supplying enough livestock to keep them fed no matter how skillful of hunters they were.

Nobody has a time to multi-task into self-reliance, anyway, because our economic order requires each individual to invest every ounce of their time into learning a specialized skill, like driving a huge truck across Alaska, accounting, or soldiering. There isn't enough time to learn all the skills you need to maintain the technological complexity of a modern home.

Don't know how you expected anyone to stay the same as we were two hundred and fifty years ago when everything is so different.
"Well, that's just your opinion man.

There is plenty of opportunity in this country for any American willing to put the work in to seize it. You are proving my point that the caliber of people living under the Constitution have failed, not the document itself.
 
"Well, that's just your opinion man.

There is plenty of opportunity in this country for any American willing to put the work in to seize it. You are proving my point that the caliber of people living under the Constitution have failed, not the document itself.

Well, I can't "force" you to accept any of the thorny realities cited above. I don't know how you expect a document written for pioneers in the 1700s (with no serious external obstacles threatening their social and economic expansion) to address the challenges of an era ruled by technological sorcery.
 
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OK. Well one shows he is in 4th place as the best and another has him in 1st place as the worst. Polls are funny, huh?

Just makes me wonder just how Barack and GWB got in for two terms. Maybe that kind of poll (Where people go out in November to vote.) has more substance to it than one taken from a media source, huh. :roll:

Yes, they do.
But, the problem is, many voters are either (1) voting blindly for the party, (2) basing their votes on political ads or (3) voting for who they consider to be the lesser of two evils.

As for me, I'm voting for Voldemort next time. No more voting for the lesser of the evils.
 
OK. Well one shows he is in 4th place as the best and another has him in 1st place as the worst. Polls are funny, huh?

Just makes me wonder just how Barack and GWB got in for two terms. Maybe that kind of poll (Where people go out in November to vote.) has more substance to it than one taken from a media source, huh. :roll:

Keep in mind that when that poll was taken 8 years ago, Clinton finished as the second worst after W with 16%, indicating that the conservatives went from bashing Clinton to now bashing Obama.
 
Wait how about nearly 50,000,000 on food stamps? I know I know its good for the economy.

Good Point !!

Pelosi said Food stamps ARE good for the economy ! Lol...believe it or not there are people who buy that nonsense.
 
If we were to take a closer look at the day by day acounts of these 2 administrations, clearly Obama wins. How quicky the gop forgets the mess they made. One of the dumbest things i heard on fox news was we were safer under bush AFTER 9 11. Well did it happen on the gop watch. Give me a break Obama has been cleaning up the mess bush and his war buddys made for over 5 years now.
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This poll should have been 'who sucks worse?' ..
 
Yay! I haven't seen a "who's better, Bush or Obama" poll since ... 2 days ago, maybe?

Seriously, do we really need another one of these polls?
 
Good Point !!

Pelosi said Food stamps ARE good for the economy ! Lol...believe it or not there are people who buy that nonsense.

Of course, that's not what she said, but I don't expect honesty from you.
 
:lol:

l thinl l hate when l see junior in every poll
 
Of course, that's not what she said, but I don't expect honesty from you.


Well then DO tell !

What " exactly did she say " ?
 
Well then DO tell !

What " exactly did she say " ?

Pelosi said that food stamps are a good method of economic stimulus, and she's not entirely wrong. That money goes back into the economy, quickly, and food stamps also increase demand. They're not ideal by any stretch, but when the economy is in the crapper, they are an effective means of stimulus. That's what she said.

Boost in Food-Stamp Funding Percolates Through Economy - WSJ

Money from the program -- officially known as the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program -- percolates quickly through the economy. The U.S. Department of Agriculture calculates that for every $5 of food-stamp spending, there is $9.20 of total economic activity, as grocers and farmers pay their employees and suppliers, who in turn shop and pay their bills.

While other stimulus money has been slow to circulate, the food-stamp boost is almost immediate, with 80% of the benefits being redeemed within two weeks of receipt and 97% within a month, the USDA says.
 
Obama easily..

Bush was horse****, old drunk who couldn't even speak in complete sentences, and looked hungover half the time, his daddy was **** too that's why Clinton whipped his ass...
Bush allowed 9-11 to happen..
Started 2 wars that turned out to be a failure, whatever happened to those WMDs, LOL..
Pissed away the surplus slick Willie left...
That POS Patriot act...
When the old drunk left in 09 the Dow was around 7 thousand, now it's 17.000
Bush needed help from the SC to win in 2000- Gore won the election, Obama kicked Gop ass in both elections EASILY...

Bush was lucky to be. member of the lucky sperm club, a rich mommy and daddy, otherwise his dumbass would be mowing lawns for a living, or working a a janitor in some redneck bar, the guy was half retarded..
 
If we were to take a closer look at the day by day acounts of these 2 administrations, clearly Obama wins. How quicky the gop forgets the mess they made. One of the dumbest things i heard on fox news was we were safer under bush AFTER 9 11. Well did it happen on the gop watch. Give me a break Obama has been cleaning up the mess bush and his war buddys made for over 5 years now.
That seems rather partisan to me. The planning for 9/11 started 4 years before Bush took office and the anti-American hostilities were present before he arrived. The book, Blowback, is a good source on the rising anti-Americanism and written in 2000. And after 9/11 there doesn't seem to be any attacks on US soil (or outside of Iraq and Afghanistan). Since Bush left, we have had shoe bombers, underwear bombers, Ft Hood assassins, Benghazi attacks, etc.

It is bizarre that Bush gets blamed for everything that happened, with no consideration to the situation that he inherited or the cooperation or lack of cooperation of Congress. The seeds for 9/11 were planted before Bush took office. They may have been as invisible as the seeds of the recession but they were there. (Such as Clinton's deregulations)
 
I feel Obama has been better but he still needs to do a lot of work. He is definitely not the "hope" he expressed himself to be.
 
Bush's main failings were the optional Wars, and his torching of our National Reputation(foreign relations). Oh, 9/11 as well, though his management was supreme.
Obama has failed more times than one can count, but he did inherit a worse situation, and none of his failings were on the Bush scale
I think in the end, Bush will be viewed as the moron he is, and Obama as the mediocre president he was

The fact that Bush is being voted higher at this point in this poll just shows the hyper partisan, low information political environment right now.
You've got that bass ackwards. The media is on Obama's side.

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Bush was lucky to be. member of the lucky sperm club, a rich mommy and daddy, otherwise his dumbass would be mowing lawns for a living, or working a a janitor in some redneck bar, the guy was half retarded..
You do know that Obama had wealthy grandparents and was sent to the priciest prep school in Hawaii where he met the elite of Hawaii, right? You do know that the increase in the Dow helps the rich and contributed to the fact that the GINI coefficient has increased more under Obama than it did under Bush, right? You do know that Obama continued and expanded the worse stuff that Bush did such as the Patriot Act, drone attacks into Pakistan, the war in Afghanistan, the rise in debt, etc., right? You do know that c. 80% of those Bush tax cuts that should have expired were made permanent under Obama, right? You do know that under Bush the unemployment rate was more than 6.1% only for 4 months and it is only now, after 65 months, that Obama got it down to 6.1%, right?
 
You do know that Obama had wealthy grandparents and was sent to the priciest prep school in Hawaii where he met the elite of Hawaii, right? You do know that the increase in the Dow helps the rich and contributed to the fact that the GINI coefficient has increased more under Obama than it did under Bush, right? You do know that Obama continued and expanded the worse stuff that Bush did such as the Patriot Act, drone attacks into Pakistan, the war in Afghanistan, the rise in debt, etc., right? You do know that c. 80% of those Bush tax cuts that should have expired were made permanent under Obama, right? You do know that under Bush the unemployment rate was more than 6.1% only for 4 months and it is only now, after 65 months, that Obama got it down to 6.1%, right?
Thank you , you have just proved my next point thats Obama's been too Conservative for us progressives, BUT we voted for him because he is the lesser of 2 evils, and i hated Romney who had the balls and stupidity to get up in public to tell the whole world how much he hates the poor, and i hated Palin even more, i wanted out of Iraq and Afghanistan in Feb 2009- obviously it didn't work out that way..
 
If we were to take a closer look at the day by day acounts of these 2 administrations, clearly Obama wins. How quicky the gop forgets the mess they made. One of the dumbest things i heard on fox news was we were safer under bush AFTER 9 11. Well did it happen on the gop watch. Give me a break Obama has been cleaning up the mess bush and his war buddys made for over 5 years now.
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Nice try
 
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