I'm no fan of radical Islam, and I think it's dangerous and cancerous. I also advocate the limitation of all religion in Western society, Islam foremost as a particularly repressive and anti-modern one.
I'm glad to see you express this position. Of course, Your stupendous and Intentional numerical Blooper remains Uncorrected.
Tho at least not repeated.
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But I can't help at laugh at the truly, utterly absurd claims by some US conservatives about "Britainistan" or "Londonistan" or other silly (albeit amusing) references to the 'Islamisation' of Western Europe.
I heard and referenced those words from Brits.
That would be, ie, the famous
book of that title by Melanie Phillips and excellent article by Hitchens in Vanity Fair. I posted the latter several times here.
Of course,
John Cleese also says London is Unrecognizable/a foreign experience now.
http://www.debatepolitics.com/europe/107905-john-cleese-london-no-longer-english-city.html
Go figure.
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If you were really up on the subject, you would know that 90% of all persons charged with hate speech and discrimination are Muslims, and both Cameron's government and the New Labour before it have taken huge steps to arrest any growing radical influence in the British Islamic community.
I wouldn't be surprised considering the Radical Finsbury-Mosque-types that - London!stan- is rightfully famous for. Though I doubt it's true in the rest of the EU. Perhaps you'd like to post the numbers.
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I'll also point you to the recent enquiries in some London inner-city schools, in which police and government officials have identified and neutralised several radical Islamist teachers. So, all this is to say that where there is a potential problem, we deal with it. But overwhelmingly, the more important thing I'd like to let you know, having lived in London for a long, long time -- the idea that there are neighbourhoods that follow Sharia law or are patrolled by radical Islamic militias is nonsense.
We had a string on that Large problem, which was NOT just a few teachers.
Another Apologist Minimization.
http://www.debatepolitics.com/europ...ver-plot-birmingham-schools-investigated.html
Didn't see YOU Post in it in the few MONTHS (3/7-6/13) it was running!
In fact,
you have NO posts in the 'Europe' section in your YEAR here and yet are somehow declaring superior knowledge. Mebbe you just didn't even want to lend the idea any more credibility by posting in it.. especially since you couldn't even try and deny it with UK posters!
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Seriously, it has zero basis in fact. The Daily Mail (essentially a tabloid notorious for running scaremonger articles about anything from killer broccoli to killer Pakistanis) periodically comes up with a story about a woman harassed in some bad part of London for wearing skimpy clothes, or some mosque that's teaching the kids to be suicide bombers. Inevitably, when you delve deeper into these stories, you realise that they're either A) Unsubstantiated or B) Grossly twisted for the purpose of selling newspapers. It probably occurs occasionally -- something like a woman walking home at night being harassed by a bunch of young men because she's in a short dress, or an outsider wandering into the wrong neighbourhood and getting mugged. I ask you -- is it any different in Chicago, New York, Dallas, Phoenix, Atlanta, LA, Detroit, Boston or Miami? Or any other US city I can name?
Yeah it IS different.
Those cities, and America in general, have more crime/violence than Europe.. at least until the recent influx of immigrants that is.
So this is an admission that due to Muslim immigrants, EU/UK has caught up with our 'involuntary immigrants'.
How was, ie, Malmo 30 years ago? Now?
And so many more.
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Maybe I should start running headlines: "The increasing Africanisation of Chicagafrica! FOUR WHITE WOMEN RAPED BY RAMPAGING AFRICANS -- WHEN WILL THE GOVERNMENT STAND UP TO THE INCREASING BLACKIFICATION OF AMERICA?!" It's absurd. Socioeconomic factors are the cause here. The Pakistanis in inner-city London are poor and uneducated. They resort to crime, and feel oppressed by outsiders, particularly white Britons.
Unfortunately, Race, even more than poverty, IS the single best indicator when predicting crime in America.
So Solly!
Bad news for you: I'm generally progressive but Never put PC over Fact.
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They're not all going to grow up to be Osama bin Laden, as much as every black person in Chicago isn't going to grow up to be Malcolm X.
They don't have to grow up to be Osama bin Laden to change UK/EU civilization/values for the worse.
http://www.debatepolitics.com/europ...zero-tolerance-homosexuality-0-fer-500-a.html
Oh how the Brit/EUer tune has changed here in the near 5 years since I posted that string.
Now some of them are 'Islamophobes' too, others gone.
THEY talk about the Islamist threat every day now!
You might want to read the threads I Linked above because your particular fudging is way behind the curve.
I make the same replies I did then.. but with less opposition/takers.
What we have here is your opening declaration/admission followed by Tons of contrary apologist BS.
(yet more later)