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Was the Iraq War "Worth it"

Was the Iraq War Worth it?

  • Yes

    Votes: 5 6.4%
  • No

    Votes: 65 83.3%
  • Other

    Votes: 8 10.3%

  • Total voters
    78
That is incorrect. There is a difference between hindsight and assessment. Do you need an explaination of the two?

Of course it's correct. Given that is the case, I'm not too interested in your explanation. Tip: I mentioned hindsight. You mentioned assessment. Did I mention assessment? Stay focused.
 
With the situation in Iraq unfolding do you believe that the Iraq War was worth it?

The aims of the war in Iraq can be stated in terms of the reasons given for military intervention in the congressional authorization for the use of force in Iraq:

  • Iraq's noncompliance with the conditions of the 1991 ceasefire agreement, including interference with U.N. weapons inspectors.
  • Iraq "continuing to possess and develop a significant chemical and biological weapons capability" and "actively seeking a nuclear weapons capability" posed a "threat to the national security of the United States and international peace and security in the Persian Gulf region."
  • Iraq's "brutal repression of its civilian population."
  • Iraq's "capability and willingness to use weapons of mass destruction against other nations and its own people".
  • Iraq's hostility towards the United States as demonstrated by the 1993 assassination attempt on former President George H. W. Bush and firing on coalition aircraft enforcing the no-fly zones following the 1991 Gulf War.
  • Members of al-Qaeda, an organization bearing responsibility for attacks on the United States, its citizens, and interests, including the attacks that occurred on September 11, 2001, are known to be in Iraq.
  • Iraq's "continu[ing] to aid and harbor other international terrorist organizations," including anti-United States terrorist organizations.
  • Iraq paid bounty to families of suicide bombers.
  • The efforts by the Congress and the President to fight terrorists, and those who aided or harbored them.
  • The authorization by the Constitution and the Congress for the President to fight anti-United States terrorism.
  • The governments in Turkey, Kuwait, and Saudi Arabia feared Saddam and wanted him removed from power.
  • Citing the Iraq Liberation Act of 1998, the resolution reiterated that it should be the policy of the United States to remove the Saddam Hussein regime and promote a democratic replacement.

Of the above most were remedied and the situation was stable as of 2008. At that point it could be stated that increased stability was purchased pretty cheaply considering the cost in terms of men and materials in previous wars. At this time, however, it looks like most of those gains have been lost. This is entirely due to Pres. Obama's poor judgement.
 
nation building cannot succeed with those who are incapable of forming a nation.

An inbred people following customs where men impregnate their brother's daughter do not orient themselves around ideology or nation. THey are oriented around blood ties. When people's allegance is to blood,it isn't to country.
 
With the situation in Iraq unfolding do you believe that the Iraq War was worth it?

No, and this situation was complety foreseeable. ****ed up big on this one.
 
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Had to be done.

No it didn't. All we did by invading Iraq was to help the terrorists up their game. So I guess if you're all for terrorism then yes, it had to be done. But I don't support terrorism, and our involvement in Iraq has been major folly.
 
No it didn't. All we did by invading Iraq was to help the terrorists up their game. So I guess if you're all for terrorism then yes, it had to be done. But I don't support terrorism, and our involvement in Iraq has been major folly.

When Saddam was pulled out of that hole and his sons dead, that's when we should have left. I don't agree with nation building either.
 
With the situation in Iraq unfolding do you believe that the Iraq War was worth it?

It never WAS worth it. I never had any expectation that it would be worth it. You can't give a country a functioning democracy, when they can't even live with each other peacefully, or cooperative at a fundamental level. When it comes to making your nation (or your life) better, you have to earn it.
 
When Saddam was pulled out of that hole and his sons dead, that's when we should have left. I don't agree with nation building either.

Saddam was no threat to us, there was no need to help the terrorists out by destabilizing Iraq.
 
What I don't understand is why people want to continue to be wrong. Yes, a lot of SMART people were hoodwinked. If you were one of them, consider yourself in good company. It doesn't mean you're stupid, it just means you were tricked by a campaign of deception. The Iraq war was a terrible idea, and had a predictable outcome.

To paraphrase a good ol' Texas boy, 'The only thing worse than being wrong for ten years, is being wrong for ten years and one day.'
 
Saddam was no threat to us, there was no need to help the terrorists out by destabilizing Iraq.

As if genocide, invading neighbors, violating 17 unscrs, institutionalizing rape, mass killings and intentionally starving thousands is stable. haha Like the situation could have got any more ****ed up.
 
No, and this situation was complety foreseeable. .

Rather like popping the cork on a bottle of champagne,it was.

Remove the strong-armed leaders that suppress the nature of clannish people towards intercene fighting what else do people think will happen?
 
It has with the terrorist takeover.

Oh yeah, democracy and human rights with a few terrorist attacks and a handful of deaths is way worse than genocide, invasion, institutional rape and intentional starvation. :roll:
 
Rather like popping the cork on a bottle of champagne,it was.

Remove the strong-armed leaders that suppress the nature of clannish people towards intercene fighting what else do people think will happen?

Right? It's so obvious it hurts. Which means that those in charge knew and went ahead anyway. Some corporate overlord got rich off of our killing 100's of thousands.
 
As if genocide, invading neighbors, violating 17 unscrs, institutionalizing rape, mass killings and intentionally starving thousands is stable. haha Like the situation could have got any more ****ed up.

How could it have gotten worse? Turn on the news. Those are the fruits of throwing American bodies and treasure at a situation that the US helped create in the first place.
 
How could it have gotten worse? Turn on the news. Those are the fruits of throwing American bodies and treasure at a situation that the US helped create in the first place.

Saddam killed, on average, 50k Iraqis per year for 20 years. Let me know when a totalitarian dictator is committing genocide and invading neighbors left and right. Until then, Iraq is doing better and is more stable.
 
Oh yeah, democracy and human rights with a few terrorist attacks and a handful of deaths is way worse than genocide, invasion, institutional rape and intentional starvation. :roll:

ISIS is all about human rights,now,are they?
 
Rather like popping the cork on a bottle of champagne,it was.

Remove the strong-armed leaders that suppress the nature of clannish people towards intercene fighting what else do people think will happen?

Of course there was that little attempt to capture a massive chuck of the worlds oil supply, and thereby hold the world at his mercy, but I guess that doesn't count.
 
As if genocide, invading neighbors, violating 17 unscrs, institutionalizing rape, mass killings and intentionally starving thousands is stable. haha Like the situation could have got any more ****ed up.

We better start invading a lot of ****ing countries if we really care about "human rights". But then again it seems we just traded a dictator for destabilized state, and terrorism. "War on terror" more like "war to create terror"
 
Oh yeah, democracy and human rights with a few terrorist attacks and a handful of deaths is way worse than genocide, invasion, institutional rape and intentional starvation. :roll:

Tell that to the people being indiscriminately gunned down Iraq, an inept government unable to handle it and us gearing up for more war. Spare me your crocodile tears, you only seem to be upset with killing when its other people doing it. The 100's of thousands we've killed, including innocent civilians, in our aggregate "War on Terror" seem to mean nothing to you.

Saddam was a known force, not random. Terrorism is random.
 
We better start invading a lot of ****ing countries if we really care about "human rights". But then again it seems we just traded a dictator for destabilized state, and terrorism. "War on terror" more like "war to create terror"

It's not about the genocide, his or ours. It's about justifying our force. It's clear from their arguments.
 
How could it have gotten worse? Turn on the news. Those are the fruits of throwing American bodies and treasure at a situation that the US helped create in the first place.

So let's see. Saddam developed and used WMD's. He sought to build nuclear weapons. He invaded another country with the objective to control a big portion of the worlds oil supplies, thereby leaving the world at his mercy. And the list goes on.

Complex history, and complex situation, let's not get carried away in the rewrite of most it.
 
Tell that to the people being indiscriminately gunned down Iraq, an inept government unable to handle it and us gearing up for more war. Spare me your crocodile tears, you only seem to be upset with killing when its other people doing it. The 100's of thousands we've killed, including innocent civilians, in our aggregate "War on Terror" seem to mean nothing to you.

Demonization

Saddam was a known force, not random. Terrorism is random.

Guaranteed genocide is better than occasional terrorism? Nonsense.
 
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