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Open carry question [W:46]

Is it justifiable?

  • yes

    Votes: 10 30.3%
  • no

    Votes: 23 69.7%

  • Total voters
    33
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I shall abide....
 
If a dude walks into a store with an assault rifle with no intention to commit a crime and the store owner shoots him is that justifiable homicide?

I he has the rifle slung over his shoulder, it is no big deal. Now if he comes in at the ready with his rifle pointed at you, it is a different matter. I remember as a kid I used to hop on my bike and ride into town with my .410. Walk into the Western Auto with the .410 in hand and buy some shells for it and go hunting.

You could look around the school parking lot where I went to school and see several pickups with rifles and shotguns in their racks. All vehicles unlocked and no one cared or stole a darn thing. We never locked the house and when we went into town never locked the car or pickup. But society has changed way too much, it is sick. But instead of trying to get to the root of the problem, find out what it is, the idea is to take guns away from hard working, honest people. That makes government as sick as our society has become.
 
yet you cannot guarantee this, but are willing to take ever more chances--

no, it is a complete disaster and bastardization of the 2A--

what it shows is just how far you people will go to push the envelope of your "rights" over the "rights" of others--
oh, and good with the lame anti-gunner meme --

You have no right not to see a person carrying/holding a gun. Do you feel compelled to shoot police officers, security guards or hunters? If so then you are a threat. ;)
 
Who are you insinuating that those very few idiots are, since Goshin "lokes" that post?
Doers every American store-owner have the onus on him to know what you think your "rights" are when you open-carry a rifle into his store ?

no, not every store owner... every PERSON should know .... and yes, I put the onus on every individual to be educated on their rights and the rights of others.... I do not arbitrarily vacate them of their responsibilities as citizens.
 
everybody should remain vigilant... even when there's not a guy legally carrying a firearm.
so now you want everyone to live in your vigilant world--no thanks.


stop talking out of your ass and i'll stop pointing out that you're talking out of your ass.... it's a simple concept.
so you continue your moronic posting accusing me of talking out of my ass--
how 'bout you stop trying to ram your asinine interpretation of the 2A up America's ass--
 
There's no more reason to believe an open carry is about to attack you than a person driving a car nearby.

I walk into 99Percenter's store wearing a GI and my black belt. He tries to shoot me because he thinks I might Bruce Lee him. better analogy:mrgreen:
 
Re: Open carry question

If a dude walks into a store with an assault rifle with no intention to commit a crime and the store owner shoots him is that justifiable homicide?

1.How is this dude carrying this weapon into the store?

2.Why does it have to be an assault rifle? Is the store clerk going to feel any safer if someone walks into store with a semi-automatic rifle that has the same magazine capacity and fires the same round as this so called assault rifle?
 
I don't think so. I think the owner just has to have a reason to believe he's in danger. That takes more than just seeing the gun.

an accurate recitation of the law
 
Imma try once more, using visual aids...


Not an imminent threat...


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Very Probably an imminent threat, especially if pointing in your general direction...

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Hell yes imminent threat!

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See, IRL it doesn't take a slide rule and reference book...
 
no, not every store owner... every PERSON should know .... and yes, I put the onus on every individual to be educated on their rights and the rights of others.... I do not arbitrarily vacate them of their responsibilities as citizens.
all store owners now needs to know how to deal open-carry rifle-toters--
please go with that forward and watch the tide turn on you -
 
Imma try once more, using visual aids...


Not an imminent threat...


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See, IRL it doesn't take a slide rule and reference book...

this first one is absolutely an imminent threat if you are not near a gtun..
you have now force store-owners to open-carry to safeguard theirt lives .
 
so now you want everyone to live in your vigilant world--no thanks.
I can't make you be vigilant, i can only say that it's in your best interest to be vigilant ..... lest you become a victim of someone looking to do harm.
it's really no sweat off my nose if you go ahead and not pay attention... it's your life, not mine.

however, i will not allow you to infringe upon my rights so you can be lazy.... not gonna happen.



so you continue your moronic posting accusing me of talking out of my ass--
how 'bout you stop trying to ram your asinine interpretation of the 2A up America's ass--
i'm not trying to ram anything anywhere, i'm trying to stop you anti-gunners from infringing on our rights as enumerated in the 2a

you can hate guns all you want... you can loathe that I have them and carry them... I can't force you to exercise your rights, nor would I.... but i will not allow you people to stop me from exercising my rights... .that dog won't hunt.
 
all store owners now needs to know how to deal open-carry rifle-toters--
please go with that forward and watch the tide turn on you -

for the 3rd time.. not all store owners... all people.

how to legally and ethically deal with people with guns is not something you want to be completely ignorant about.... i'm amazed that you would want ANYBODY to be ignorant about this stuff
 
Imma try once more, using visual aids...


Not an imminent threat...


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Very Probably an imminent threat, especially if pointing in your general direction...

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Hell yes imminent threat!

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See, IRL it doesn't take a slide rule and reference book...

we don't want nobody knowing this stuff!!.. what are you doing!!

gotta keep people stupid!...gotta prevent them from being vigilant!


lordy lordy lordy:lol:
 
OK so let me modify. Its late at night and nobody is there and the dude is wearing a ski mask. Still no intent to commit a crime.
 
You have no right not to see a person carrying/holding a gun.
Do you feel compelled to shoot police officers, security guards or hunters?
If so then you are a threat. ;)

Don't even think about trying to turn one of yours into me being a threat.
You have no right to change the word rifle to gun--very poor attempt to minimize.
You have no right to say I have no right.

As soon as one of you open-carry rifle-toters walks in a store,
watch the customers flee, while the store-owner must now go for his gun just in case.
Another extreme gift from those bastardizing the 2A .
 
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OK so let me modify. Its late at night and nobody is there and the dude is wearing a ski mask.

what is the season? middle of January or July?
 
just responding to each of your posts to me--
telling me I'm talking out my ass when I object to your open-carry rifle-toter disturbing the peace--
and infringing on the rights of others to not worry about rifle-toter shooting him in the back when he's stocking shelves--
didn't see it til then...what's your excuse?
the record in this thread is clear--
10 minutes is clearly enough time to pay attention -
 
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we don't want nobody knowing this stuff!!.. what are you doing!!

gotta keep people stupid!...gotta prevent them from being vigilant!


lordy lordy lordy:lol:

time to get it in your schools .
 
Does it matter? I never seen someone wearing a ski mask in chicago in the winter or summer.

well if someone has a ski mask on in the summer that's a far better argument he is there to rob than if its 20 below out

now if its half a pair of pantyhose I say shoot the sumbitch!
 
There's no more reason to believe an open carry is about to attack you than a person driving a car nearby.

Nope bad analogy. See a car is for driving and a gun is for shooting. Big difference.
 
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