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Can a Libertarian be Pro Life?

Can a libertarian be pro life?


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there wasnt any taxation during jesus's time.what else do you expect him to advise people to do to share the wealth ?

l claim he was social democrat.

You have a source for that?
 
there wasnt any taxation during jesus's time.what else do you expect him to advise people to do to share the wealth ?

l claim he was social democrat.

Ummm, yes there was taxation. According to the story, paying taxes is what Joseph and Mary were on their way to do, when Jesus was born.
 
Ummm, yes there was taxation. According to the story, paying taxes is what Joseph and Mary were on their way to do, when Jesus was born.

modern times make " charity " a responsilibity of taxation
 
I say no. A Libertarian believes in individual choice, even if it is a choice they don't agree with.

pro-life personally.. or politically?


anyways, there's really no need to clarify, Libertarians can be pro-life or pro-choice.... personally , politically, both, or a combination.
 
Hard to say... an abortion is a violation of the non-aggression principle but so is using force to stop people from doing so (prohibition.)

IMO the only logically consistent point of view a libertarian can have is being anti-abortion but pro-choice.

oddly enough.... that's the position I hold myself
 
Since the dozens and dozens of types of libertarians seem to make it all up as they go along - sure - they can be anything they want to be on any day they want to be and for any reason they want to be. After all, its not like the opinion of a libertarian has any real world consequences.

"voyager likes this"

Seems reasonable. Almost seems like Libertarian really doesn't mean anything except to those who claim it and knows what it means. Perhaps they claim Libertarian so they don't have to claim something else like Republican.

"haymarket likes this"

:yawn:

Obvious bait thread is obvious.
 
"voyager likes this"



"haymarket likes this"

:yawn:

Obvious bait thread is obvious.

that ain't no ****.... i'm sorry i posted in it now.

i really can't stand dishonest people who create idiot threads... what a waste of our time.
 
that ain't no ****.... i'm sorry i posted in it now.

i really can't stand dishonest people who create idiot threads... what a waste of our time.

I kind of suspect that Voyager really posted it with honest intentions, and "liked" the post out of courtesy. Haymarket- different story- obvious bait.
 
I kind of suspect that Voyager really posted it with honest intentions, and "liked" the post out of courtesy. Haymarket- different story- obvious bait.

the 3rd option of the poll kinda tells me he's no different than Haymarket.... like too many polls around here offered up by partisans, folks are looking for validation for their previously held beliefs, not real answers.

( being around internet political forums since there has been internet political forums has made me cynical... not incorrect, but certainly cynical.;))
 
I don't mind if this was a bait thread. We've been kicking their asses all day, so I figure the Libertarians came out ahead in this.
 
I don't mind if this was a bait thread. We've been kicking their asses all day, so I figure the Libertarians came out ahead in this.

the longer you debate, the more you'll come to realize that there is no winning or losing.... there is only learning.

unfortunately, most of the "learning" is far from substantive...it's 50% bull****, 49% fluff.. and 1% substantial knowledge.

for instance, today I have learned that there exists a couple more idiot partisans on this forum.. and i have learned that the idiots we already knew about are still idiots.
it hasn't been a very good day for learning so far.:lol:
 
If this forum is so full of idiots, then how come peeka chaka no wookiee boonala tweepie Solo? Ho ho hoooo.

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Today, I wrote out a singel sentence that jabba the Hutt said about five times on different threads, talked about how the Hutts are a hermaphroditic species that reproduces asexually, and made a couple other Star Wars references. There was more crap about Jabba on a few other forums, but I won't get into those details. So, yeah. Enjoy the free Star Wars stuff, idiots. And a happy New Year!

well, at least i've learned that i have no interest in Hutt sexuality :lol:
 
By the way, that post you quoted has turned into this now:

if this forum is so full of idiots now, then how come peeka chaka no wookiee boonawa tweepie Solo? Ho ho hoooo.

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"voyager likes this"



"haymarket likes this"

:yawn:

Obvious bait thread is obvious.

Haymarket will never understand that the only two things that makes a libertarian are the principle of self ownership and the non-aggression principle.
 
I kind of suspect that Voyager really posted it with honest intentions, and "liked" the post out of courtesy. Haymarket- different story- obvious bait.

I just don't understand how Libertarians reconcile their beliefs on abortion esp on this site. I see a lot of Libertarian leans right. When Libertarians talk about abortion on here a lot of them use the same emotional appeals as my far left ideological cousins use on gun control. All that motivated me to start this thread and if that makes me a political hack so be it. :lol:

I do find the calls of this being a baiting thread humorous. I liked a lot of posts on here from people on both sides of the spectrum. I also admitted a mistake in quoting someone too. How often do you see in a thread let alone both of those things done. :lol: Treat people with respect and most likely it will be returned, even on a Internet message board.
 
Don't you love it when people try to tell us what we're supposed to believe, not because of what they believe, but because of what they believe we believe?:lamo
 
Don't you love it when people try to tell us what we're supposed to believe, not because of what they believe, but because of what they believe we believe?:lamo

That sums up many of Internet political message board threads...
 
I just don't understand how Libertarians reconcile their beliefs on abortion esp on this site. I see a lot of Libertarian leans right. When Libertarians talk about abortion on here a lot of them use the same emotional appeals as my far left ideological cousins use on gun control.

Well, probably the same way that some democrats are fiscally conservative and pro-gun rights, while some republicans are supportive of welfare programs and pro-choice. We all have variations in what we most strongly identify with. I am fiscally conservative and socially liberal, and although I have strong ethical and moral codes of behavior, I don't expect other people to live up to my standards. As long as they aren't stepping on my toes, I don't care how they live, or what they do. Some republicans are pro-choice, and some democrats are pro-life. None of us tend to strictly adhere to what the typical party line dictates.
I value liberty and individual rights over ideological beliefs.
 
If this forum is so full of idiots...

...then you feel right at home. :2razz:


Sorry, I don't speak Hutt so I had to take an educated guess at the rest of your sentence.
 
...then you feel right at home. :2razz:


Sorry, I don't speak Hutt so I had to take an educated guess at the rest of your sentence.

It's called Huttese, actually. And yes, I am the nerdiest ****ing troll to ever live. Thinks for asking that in the back of your mind.
 
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I just don't understand how Libertarians reconcile their beliefs on abortion esp on this site. I see a lot of Libertarian leans right. When Libertarians talk about abortion on here a lot of them use the same emotional appeals as my far left ideological cousins use on gun control. All that motivated me to start this thread and if that makes me a political hack so be it. :lol:

I do find the calls of this being a baiting thread humorous. I liked a lot of posts on here from people on both sides of the spectrum. I also admitted a mistake in quoting someone too. How often do you see in a thread let alone both of those things done. :lol: Treat people with respect and most likely it will be returned, even on a Internet message board.

since i am a constitutional libertarian, i tend to look at my right lean, as -- states powers.

since JAMES MADISON states that.... the life's, liberty, and property of the people, are a state power and not a federal power.
 
There isn't an actual Libertarian stance on abortion. This issue is actually as controversial among Libertarians as it is between Democrats and Republicans. It depends on who's rights you think are being violated: the fetus or the woman. If a Libertarian believes that the fetus is already a human being, even if not quite finished developing, they likely fall on the pro-life side. If they believe that it is still part of a woman's body, and therefore not a separate person yet, they are on the pro-choice side.

Good post. But it is irrational to believe that the fetus is a mere appendage as is evidenced by the baby's eventual birth.
 
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