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Should this sniper helping nevada cattle rancher be arrested

SHOULD HE BE ARRESTED?

  • do not arrest him

    Votes: 12 29.3%

  • arrest him

    Votes: 25 61.0%

  • arrest him and beat the hell out of him police style

    Votes: 4 9.8%
  • Total voters
    41
What a moron. Had law enforcement seen him, the whole Bundy thing could have ended very differently...
 
MaggieD said:
If they had seen him, it would have been a different story. As it is, since they apparently did not, what law did he break? PS -- He didn't brandish his gun.
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Maggie, do you remember what highway that was that Bundy's armed posse blocked? Was it some back-of-the-woods rural highway?

No. It was Interstate 15, a major transportation corridor between Southern California and much of the Western United States. That alone should have been enough to land their sorry asses in prison, not including their armed intimidation of federal officials, not including establishing their own authority over the state of Nevada and the United States, not to mention Bundy's freeloading shenanigans that started this whole mess.

I sincerely hope that they lock Bundy and his posse up and throw away the key. These people posed clear and present dangers to the law and order of the State of Nevada and the United States of America. To let them go with anything less than severe punishment is to appease other potential extremists. The United States government needs to send a clear message that this kind of terrorism--yes, terrorism--will not be tolerated.

plutonium said:
is something wrong with my english??? i said black people dont get to do this...mexicans either....just a fact sorry!!!
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Facts are not welcome around here. Best you learn that sooner rather than later.
 
Thrilla said:
what would the charge be for arresting him?
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Isn't it illegal to threaten someone's life or to point a firearm at someone?
 
tres borrachos said:
No he didn't.
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So none of Buck's definitions apply.

Also, I didn't see a scope on that rifle. What sniper would use a rifle without a scope?

The dude was a knucklehead but, sniper, not even close.

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TOJ said:
So none of Buck's definitions apply.

Also, I didn't see a scope on that rifle. What sniper would use a rifle without a scope?

The dude was a knucklehead but, sniper, not even close.

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Buck's definitions all included the actual firing of a gun. Since he didn't fire anything, he's not a sniper.

Someone else brought that up abou the lack of a scope. He would have had a great shot into the air, and maybe killed a bird at best.
 
TOJ said:
So none of Buck's definitions apply.

Also, I didn't see a scope on that rifle. What sniper would use a rifle without a scope?

The dude was a knucklehead but, sniper, not even close.

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I'm not sure of the rifle type, but if it's a AR-15, you can pick off a man sized target with iron sights @ about 150 yds., bench rest I believe.

 
jamesrage said:
Isn't it illegal to threaten someone's life or to point a firearm at someone?
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I am not a lawyer but you can threaten someone and/or point a firearm at them. They are not mutually linked.
 
AJiveMan said:
I'm not sure of the rifle type, but if it's a AR-15, you can pick off a man sized target with iron sights @ about 150 yds., bench rest I believe.
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So you are suggesting that now snipers are using AR15s without scopes. :lamo

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TOJ said:
So you are suggesting that now snipers are using AR15s without scopes. :lamo

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read my post, it's self explanatory.
here it is again;

AJiveMan said:
I'm not sure of the rifle type, but if it's a AR-15, you can pick off a man sized target with iron sights @ about 150 yds., bench rest I believe.

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voyager1 said:
I am not a lawyer but you can threaten someone and/or point a firearm at them. They are not mutually linked.
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Apparently it is a crime in Nevada. If BLM agents are government officials then it is also a federal crime.

Nevada Laws re "Drawing / Brandishing Weapon in a Threatening Manner"
Drawing a knife, firearm, or other deadly weapon in a rude, threatening or angry manner is illegal in Nevada.1 This is also sometime referred to as “brandishing” a weapon. Maximum penalties are $1,000 in fines and 6 months in jail.2 But a skilled lawyer may be able negotiate the charge down to a dismissal. Scroll down to learn the law.

Brandishing a deadly weapon in a rude or angry manner is a crime in Nevada.
Definition of drawing a deadly weapon in a threatening manner

Drawing or brandishing a weapon is a crime in Nevada if all of the following conditions are met:

The weapon is a deadly weapon, such as dirks, dirk-knifes, swords, sword canes, pistols, or guns;
AND
The drawing or brandishing of the weapon occurs in the presence of at least two (2) other people;
AND
The weapon is drawn, brandished, or exhibited in a rude, angry, or threatening manner.3




Threatening the government officials of the United States - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 
we both saw how the cattle ranchers buddies were dressed...a lot of them have on army style/ police clothing
 
thank you sir for making my poll accurate
 
thank you sir for posting the evidence i needed
 
95% of what he is doing makes him a sniper....who are you trying to fool boss...you know better... we know better
 
AJiveMan said:
read my post, it's self explanatory.
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Really? Not even close.

You quoted my post where I was questioning the use of sniper to describe the wacko. What the hell was your point in showing someone with an AR looking gun with iron sights if it wasn't to imply that snipers use a similar weapon?

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TOJ said:
Really? Not even close.

You quoted my post where I was questioning the use of sniper to describe the wacko. What the hell was your point in showing someone with an AR looking gun with iron sights if it wasn't to imply that snipers use a similar weapon?

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It was to imply that snipers can and do use the AR-15 with and without a scope.:roll:
Snipers do use the AR-15, there are many different models, some have a range of 500 yards and more, but you can Google it and do your own research, never take anything someone types on the internets.



 
The guy never pulled the trigger. All he was doing was looking at a crowd thru a crack in the concrete.

Ok, now to the use of an AR15 as a sniper rifle. First off, the standard front iron sight is 8MOA wide. The typical "man sized target" is 20 inches wide. That means at 250 yards the blade on the end of the barrel appears as wide as a person. He is a hell of a lot farther than 250 yards away. I am a distance shooter. I attended a shoot last month where some extremely talented people were able to put shots on target with iron sights at that distance, but it is very rare. Nobody is going to show up intending to shoot at a target that far out that shoots back without a scope, and certainly not with that small a round. Judging by the size of the magazine that is likely a .223, terminal ballistics show that out past about 450 yards that round has lost too much energy to be effectively lethal. At 500 yards he would have to compensating for about 8 feet of bullet drop from point of aim, and at that distance a mild puff of wind is going to push him off target. It's a photo op, nothing more. Just because the rifle is black and has rails doesn't make it a laser guided death machine.
 
I love watching the sheep of the right wing noise machine justifying criminal behavior. I think this guy is criminally stupid as well as violating the law. Imagine if he was a man with a long beard and a kafiya and pointing the gun at Time Square.
 
tech30528 said:
The guy never pulled the trigger. All he was doing was looking at a crowd thru a crack in the concrete.

Ok, now to the use of an AR15 as a sniper rifle. First off, the standard front iron sight is 8MOA wide. The typical "man sized target" is 20 inches wide. That means at 250 yards the blade on the end of the barrel appears as wide as a person. He is a hell of a lot farther than 250 yards away. I am a distance shooter. I attended a shoot last month where some extremely talented people were able to put shots on target with iron sights at that distance, but it is very rare. Nobody is going to show up intending to shoot at a target that far out that shoots back without a scope, and certainly not with that small a round. Judging by the size of the magazine that is likely a .223, terminal ballistics show that out past about 450 yards that round has lost too much energy to be effectively lethal. At 500 yards he would have to compensating for about 8 feet of bullet drop from point of aim, and at that distance a mild puff of wind is going to push him off target. It's a photo op, nothing more. Just because the rifle is black and has rails doesn't make it a laser guided death machine.
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My husband belongs to a gun club and is a distance shooter like you. He said the same thing after seeing that guy's pictures. It was a photo op.
 
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