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Elizabeth Warren vs. Hillary Clinton[W:336]

Who would you rather have as president?


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I promise you the banks do not fear her, those people are regulators sure they might be a bit scared cause they work for the .gov and can be fired at a moments notice.
but they are in a rock and a hard place bad things happen to people that mess with the banks.
That whole video is for looks and looks only, the Big banks and the .gov are hand in hand. and the banks are higher up then the .gov will ever be.

Thats why when the banks do something illegal its only a major fine cause the .gov wants in on the action.

Many people disagree that she's not feared.

Wall Street
 
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Yup yup the banks do not fear any one in Washington, generally those that want to get elected come crawling on knees to the banksters for "donations". that is a fact

The big banks LOVE Elizabeth Warren. Her special kind of stupid is going to drive the community banks right out of business, and there will eventually be nothing left but a few dozen or so large national banks in this country.

The community banks (I think there are about 6800 of them) don't fear her...they hate her.
 
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Yup yup the banks do not fear any one in Washington, generally those that want to get elected come crawling on knees to the banksters for "donations". that is a fact

Exactly, banks donate millions of dollars to the two major parties. Our elected officials only jump on banks, at least the big banks, you know the ones too big to fail, for show when the public demands something be done about them. Now the little banks who can't afford to donate millions to the campaign coffers, they may be hit hard and sometimes fatally.
 
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Warren IMO would be very dangerous for this country. She thinks people are too stupid to make smart decisions, and she believes that the government should make decisions for people. It's downright frightening.

How does regulating banks prevent people from making decisions?

Not that I'd vote for either one, but if I was forced to choose between Warren & Clinton, I would choose Clinton without hesitation.

Of course. Clinton represents the centre-right status quo, in which banks can run roughshod over the economy.
 
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Many people disagree that she's not feared.

Wall Street

Politico? yea they a trusted "news" source no bias from that propaganda pushing ********.

Controlling the Money

Centralization of the American Banking System

“Give me control over a nations currency, and I care not who makes its laws.” ~Baron M.A. Rothschild (1)

The Central Bank is an institution of the most deadly hostility existing against the principles and form of our constitution… if the American people allow private banks to control the issuance of their currency, first by inflation and then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around them will deprive the people of all their property until their children will wake up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered.”
~ Thomas Jefferson (1)


Central banks got control of our money thanks to that PROGRESSIVE woodrow wilson in 1913. They control our nation now notice how they still hate our constitution?

Of course you dont I bet you think the federal reserve bank is a .gov institution also! I assure you the banks are not worried about anyone most politicians got where they are now because of the banksters
 
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How does regulating banks prevent people from making decisions?



Of course. Clinton represents the centre-right status quo, in which banks can run roughshod over the economy.

What is your level of knowledge of bank regulations? If it's deep, we can discuss.

No banks rode roughshod over me. What did you allow banks to do to you?
 
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Happy Saturday Pol!

The CFPB, along with Dodd-Frank, has constrained the lenders in this country, and the regulatory changes coming down the pike are so burdensome that credit will be less and less available, particularly mortgages but other credit as well. So innocent people will ultimately be hurt because Elizabeth Warren is one of those politicians who stupidly relieved consumers of all of their responsibility and she put the blame squarely on the lenders, so in order to protect the morons who can't take care of themselves, everyone will now be victimized by the CFPB.

Warren IMO would be very dangerous for this country. She thinks people are too stupid to make smart decisions, and she believes that the government should make decisions for people. It's downright frightening.

Not that I'd vote for either one, but if I was forced to choose between Warren & Clinton, I would choose Clinton without hesitation.

:agree: "The devil you know...." :lol:
 
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Exactly, banks donate millions of dollars to the two major parties. Our elected officials only jump on banks, at least the big banks, you know the ones too big to fail, for show when the public demands something be done about them. Now the little banks who can't afford to donate millions to the campaign coffers, they may be hit hard and sometimes fatally.

There are about 25 "big banks" by definition, and almost 7000 small banks. The regulations will help the big banks get bigger, and are slowly (or not so slowly) driving the smaller banks out of business. And the smaller banks weren't even the ones behind the problems in the 2007-2008 years. But they are bearing the brunt.

People who think Warren is trying to save the "little guy" have no idea what her ideas are doing instead. B of A, Morgan, TD and the others will prevail and will be precariously close to monopolizing the banking industry. The big banks WANT the smaller banks gone, and Warren is playing right into their hands.

Credit unions aren't shielded either.
 
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Politico? yea they a trusted "news" source no bias from that propaganda pushing ********.

I don't know what is partisan and what isn't for most news sites. If you want, you can just Google 'Afraid of Elizabeth Warren'.

Anyway, here's another of Warren's Greatest Hits.

 
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What is your level of knowledge of bank regulations? If it's deep, we can discuss.

I'm not educated on banking at all. Maybe you can educate me by explaining your comment.

No banks rode roughshod over me. What did you allow banks to do to you?

Sorry, I didn't know that YOU were the economy. How's that working out for you?
 
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Sherrod Brown or Bernie Sanders. sorry.
 
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I'm not educated on banking at all. Maybe you can educate me by explaining your comment.



Sorry, I didn't know that YOU were the economy. How's that working out for you?

I don't have the time nor the interest in educating you on banking or the banking regulations. Too long and involved. Can't you Google and do some research? You may want to if you're seriously championing Warren. Do you always champion a politician's actions and views on something that - by your own admission here - you know little about?

I'm not the economy, and never claimed to be so I'm not sure why you blurted that out? You said that banks were riding roughshod over the economy. I'm part of the economy, and they never rode roughshod over me. So I'll ask you again...how did they ride roughshod over you?
 
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There are about 25 "big banks" by definition, and almost 7000 small banks. The regulations will help the big banks get bigger, and are slowly (or not so slowly) driving the smaller banks out of business. And the smaller banks weren't even the ones behind the problems in the 2007-2008 years. But they are bearing the brunt.

So the reason the big banks are getting bigger is because of regulation? I just want to know if I read you right.
 
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They're terrified because she's smart, pragmatic, has been a public figure for years and so far there doesn't seem to be any skeletons in her closet. Again, though, is the six million dollar question: if she ran for President, would she be locked out of the major networks?

Is she a native american? That's the question I want to know. We should give her this test.

HOW NOW INDIAN?!!? - Video Clips - South Park Studios
 
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How does regulating banks prevent people from making decisions?



Of course. Clinton represents the centre-right status quo, in which banks can run roughshod over the economy.

The banks are still paying off the clintons for what they have done for them. all of this economic destruction is because of clinton. You need to research more, Because you do not seem to have a grasp of what is really going on in this country and the world.

week before khadafi went down the rebels created a central bank! what do rebels know about central banking? Nothing but now you know why he is dead.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WN0Y3HRiuxo

All wars are bankers wars

I have posted the above documentary here many times still amazes me how some either wont watch it or believe this nice history lesson.
 
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And the fine is always negotiated so both sides come out happy.

And the legislative partying - that we were not invited to, BTW, but are expected to roll over and pay for - continues! :2mad:

Out for a while - I need some fresh air, so I'm going to do some work outside. Back later ....

Greetings, Pero. :2wave:
 
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So the reason the big banks are getting bigger is because of regulation? I just want to know if I read you right.

Actually deregulation thanks to the Clinton clan of criminals. whom i did vote for twice then I saw what he policies did, thats was when i really started digging into what is going on.
 
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I'm not the economy, and never claimed to be so I'm not sure why you blurted that out? You said that banks were riding roughshod over the economy. I'm part of the economy, and they never rode roughshod over me.

I Googled it like you asked:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Financial_crisis_of_2007–08

The financial crisis of 2007–2008, also known as the Global Financial Crisis and 2008 financial crisis, is considered by many economists the worst financial crisis since the Great Depression of the 1930s.[1] It resulted in the threat of total collapse of large financial institutions, the bailout of banks by national governments, and downturns in stock markets around the world. In many areas, the housing market also suffered, resulting in evictions, foreclosures and prolonged unemployment. The crisis played a significant role in the failure of key businesses, declines in consumer wealth estimated in trillions of U.S. dollars, and a downturn in economic activity leading to the 2008–2012 global recession and contributing to the European sovereign-debt crisis.[2][3] The active phase of the crisis, which manifested as a liquidity crisis, can be dated from August 9, 2007, when BNP Paribas terminated withdrawals from three hedge funds citing "a complete evaporation of liquidity".[4]

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Many causes for the financial crisis have been suggested, with varying weight assigned by experts.[13] The U.S. Senate's Levin–Coburn Report concluded that the crisis was the result of "high risk, complex financial products; undisclosed conflicts of interest; the failure of regulators, the credit rating agencies, and the market itself to rein in the excesses of Wall Street."[14]

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The Financial Crisis Inquiry Commission concluded that the financial crisis was avoidable and was caused by "widespread failures in financial regulation and supervision," "dramatic failures of corporate governance and risk management at many systemically important financial institutions," "a combination of excessive borrowing, risky investments, and lack of transparency" by financial institutions, ill preparation and inconsistent action by government that "added to the uncertainty and panic," a "systemic breakdown in accountability and ethics," "collapsing mortgage-lending standards and the mortgage securitization pipeline," deregulation of over-the-counter derivatives, especially credit default swaps, and "the failures of credit rating agencies" to correctly price risk.[15] The 1999 repeal of the Glass-Steagall Act effectively removed the separation between investment banks and depository banks in the United States.[16] Critics argued that credit rating agencies and investors failed to accurately price the risk involved with mortgage-related financial products, and that governments did not adjust their regulatory practices to address 21st-century financial markets.[17] Research into the causes of the financial crisis has also focused on the role of interest rate spreads.[18]

So I'll ask you again...how did they ride roughshod over you?

I'm a Canadian, we have a different banking system.
 
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Actually deregulation thanks to the Clinton clan of criminals. whom i did vote for twice then I saw what he policies did, thats was when i really started digging into what is going on.

Yeah, and Warren is trying to reverse what Clinton did. Why aren't you supporting her?
 
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I don't know what is partisan and what isn't for most news sites. If you want, you can just Google 'Afraid of Elizabeth Warren'.

Anyway, here's another of Warren's Greatest Hits.



whats with the pro warren push today? OHHHH i get it since clinton is not looking like a candidate the left is looking for some one run gotcha!
you work for the DNC?
 
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I Googled it like you asked:





I'm a Canadian, we have a different banking system.

No, you came up with a Wiki page about the meltdown in 2007. A few problems:

Wiki isn't a source.
I wasn't talking about the big bank problems in 2007. I was talking about the CFPB, banking regulations, and their impact on the community bank space.
 
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Yeah, and Warren is trying to reverse what Clinton did. Why aren't you supporting her?

Because it take congress to change laws not one woman, besides i believe this is all smoke and mirrors. but she sure was tough on some regulators huh! Big deal those are .gov workers NOT the big banks that make up our federal reserve, I cant believe you actually think our .gov runs this country:lamo the banks do research and wake up.
 
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There are about 25 "big banks" by definition, and almost 7000 small banks. The regulations will help the big banks get bigger, and are slowly (or not so slowly) driving the smaller banks out of business. And the smaller banks weren't even the ones behind the problems in the 2007-2008 years. But they are bearing the brunt.

People who think Warren is trying to save the "little guy" have no idea what her ideas are doing instead. B of A, Morgan, TD and the others will prevail and will be precariously close to monopolizing the banking industry. The big banks WANT the smaller banks gone, and Warren is playing right into their hands.

Credit unions aren't shielded either.

Exactly, it is all rhetoric and slogans with no substance. But slogans and the rhetoric people want to hear wins elections, not substance.
 
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