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Elizabeth Warren vs. Hillary Clinton[W:336]

Who would you rather have as president?

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Gipper said:
Not the biggest Romney fan but...really?
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It's hard to trust someone who has the ideological consistency of soggy oatmeal.
 
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Amadeus said:
Who would you rather have as president?
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If that was my choice, I would vote third party and I wouldn't care which third party that was, Libertarian, Constitutional, Green, socialist, wouldn't matter. The thing here is Warren is so far left of my main political views she might as well be on Mars or Venus. Clinton I just do not trust although her political views come closer to mine.
 
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Amadeus said:
Who would you rather have as president?
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hard to make a choice without reviewing a complete platform, but Warren at this point.
 
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tres borrachos said:
The only problem is her CFPB is going to end up hurting the average American joe more than help him. It won't be long before consumer credit is unattainable for a good portion if not most Americans. Yes I'm going out on a limb and predicting that now.
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CFPB? Is that her student loan bill?
 
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Amadeus said:
It's hard to trust someone who has the ideological consistency of soggy oatmeal.
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At least he was around long enough to be inconsistent. You can't say "people want leadership" when they elected a man who was a US Senator for about 37 minutes.
 
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Amadeus said:
Who would you rather have as president?
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Interesting question. I trust Elizabeth Warren more on issues that are important to me, but Clinton seems battle hardened, not that I think Warren isn't a tough cookie either. After Obama it's clear that if you want someone on your side it has to be someone who knows how Washington works and how to get what he wants. Warren's positions are decidedly anticorporate, and the problem with that is she can find herself locked out of network exposure which would kill her in any campaign. It really depends on how pragmatic she is.
 
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Gipper said:
At least he was around long enough to be inconsistent. You can't say "people want leadership" when they elected a man who was a US Senator for about 37 minutes.
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Obama was president for a few years prior to Romney.

If you want to go back to 2008... well, I wouldn't recommend it.
 
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Warren by far.
But I would vote for Clinton just because she has a better chance to win and the thing I care about the most is keeping Republicans out of office.

I am an anti-Republican first. Everything else is second to that.
 
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Gipper said:
At least he was around long enough to be inconsistent.
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That's inspiring.
 
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Neither it's a lose/lose

I think identity politics based on gender will result in the same outcome as they did for race.

Ruin.
 
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ChezC3 said:
Neither it's a lose/lose

I think identity politics based on gender will result in the same outcome as they did for race.

Ruin.
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I think this is less about gender identity politics and more that they are considered legitimate contenders. As of now I'm not aware of any other Democrat stars.
 
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Ockham said:
Please add a 3rd option....

- Large bag of nickles
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To be delivered repeatedly to my nuts on an hourly basis.

I'll go for the 3rd option thank you.
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In a heartbeat.




But if I have to pick, Hillary Clinton. Warren is an ideologue who thinks she is better than everyone else. Hillary just thinks she is entitled and is better than everyone else. I don't know if I buy her "I would have pushed for a smarter, tougher foreign policy" schtick that she is trying to push in her new book, but I believe she'd at least be tougher and smarter than Warren, because she wouldn't be trying to enact any kind of Transformation Agenda for its own sake.
 
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Cardinal said:
I think this is less about gender identity politics and more that they are considered legitimate contenders. As of now I'm not aware of any other Democrat stars.
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Well, it's hard for a turd to shine....

and of course it's about identity politics, these two women wouldn't have a snowball's chance in hell of being considered for POTUS with their records (which are nil) if they weren't women.

Of course, after Obama we might want to give Warren a serious look though, she did specialize in bankruptcy law after all...and being attached to the Obama admin means she probably will bungle that and we'll end up making a full recovery. ;)
 
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Many people are afraid, even terrified, of Elizabeth Warren. No one is afraid of Clinton.
 
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Amadeus said:
Many people are afraid, even terrified, of Elizabeth Warren. No one is afraid of Clinton.
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Are you kidding me?

I can't tell you the nightmares I've had over old keg legs....:afraid:
 
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Amadeus said:


Many people are afraid, even terrified, of Elizabeth Warren. No one is afraid of Clinton.
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They're terrified because she's smart, pragmatic, has been a public figure for years and so far there doesn't seem to be any skeletons in her closet. Again, though, is the six million dollar question: if she ran for President, would she be locked out of the major networks?
 
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Neither there has got to be a better person for the presidency
 
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Amadeus said:


Many people are afraid, even terrified, of Elizabeth Warren. No one is afraid of Clinton.
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I promise you the banks do not fear her, those people are regulators sure they might be a bit scared cause they work for the .gov and can be fired at a moments notice.
but they are in a rock and a hard place bad things happen to people that mess with the banks.
That whole video is for looks and looks only, the Big banks and the .gov are hand in hand. and the banks are higher up then the .gov will ever be.

Thats why when the banks do something illegal its only a major fine cause the .gov wants in on the action.
 
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Cardinal said:
They're terrified because she's smart, pragmatic, has been a public figure for years and so far there doesn't seem to be any skeletons in her closet. Again, though, is the six million dollar question: if she ran for President, would she be locked out of the major networks?
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The major networks are becoming less and less relevant. It's all about the Internets.
 
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tres borrachos said:
The only problem is her CFPB is going to end up hurting the average American joe more than help him. It won't be long before consumer credit is unattainable for a good portion if not most Americans. Yes I'm going out on a limb and predicting that now.
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You're probably safe in making that prediction. The very wealthy don't usually worry about consumer credit; the poor usually can't get it from a bank, but rely on merchants offering it as an incentive to buy from them; and the middle class, who historically get consumer credit for things like major remodeling or building additions onto their homes, etc, is shrinking at an alarming rate! The auto industry has already faced that by making car loans available for years longer than they used to - six to seven years to pay it off! You need a new car by that time! No wonder people are buying more pick-up trucks these days! Self defense, since they last longer - and they can haul what they need instead of paying for delivery, from sand and gravel to landscape projects to large household appliances and furniture. win-win! :mrgreen:

Greetings, tres borrachos. :2wave:
 
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polgara said:
You're probably safe in making that prediction. The very wealthy don't usually worry about consumer credit; the poor usually can't get it from a bank, but rely on merchants offering it as an incentive to buy from them; and the middle class, who historically get consumer credit for things like major remodeling or building additions onto their homes, etc, is shrinking at an alarming rate! The auto industry has already faced that by making car loans available for years longer than they used to - six to seven years to pay it off! You need a new car by that time! No wonder people are buying more pick-up trucks these days! Self defense, since they last longer - and they can haul what they need instead of paying for delivery, from sand and gravel to landscape projects to large household appliances and furniture. win-win! :mrgreen:


Greetings, tres borrachos. :2wave:
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Happy Saturday Pol!

The CFPB, along with Dodd-Frank, has constrained the lenders in this country, and the regulatory changes coming down the pike are so burdensome that credit will be less and less available, particularly mortgages but other credit as well. So innocent people will ultimately be hurt because Elizabeth Warren is one of those politicians who stupidly relieved consumers of all of their responsibility and she put the blame squarely on the lenders, so in order to protect the morons who can't take care of themselves, everyone will now be victimized by the CFPB.

Warren IMO would be very dangerous for this country. She thinks people are too stupid to make smart decisions, and she believes that the government should make decisions for people. It's downright frightening.

Not that I'd vote for either one, but if I was forced to choose between Warren & Clinton, I would choose Clinton without hesitation.
 
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votemout said:
I promise you the banks do not fear her, those people are regulators sure they might be a bit scared cause they work for the .gov and can be fired at a moments notice.
but they are in a rock and a hard place bad things happen to people that mess with the banks.
That whole video is for looks and looks only, the Big banks and the .gov are hand in hand. and the banks are higher up then the .gov will ever be.

Thats why when the banks do something illegal its only a major fine cause the .gov wants in on the action.
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And the fine is always negotiated so both sides come out happy.
 
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Perotista said:
And the fine is always negotiated so both sides come out happy.
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Yup yup the banks do not fear any one in Washington, generally those that want to get elected come crawling on knees to the banksters for "donations". that is a fact
 
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