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Was George W Bush a good president?[W:439:621]

Was George W Bush a good president?


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Re: Was George W Bush a good president?

Right. As you said, they represent the American people.

Yes, as we have seen the American people supported the war in Iraq. I don't really see any debate here.

The American people were wrong.
 
Re: Was George W Bush a good president?

Apparently they were for all this if the The President, Congress, the Senate and the people favored it and people should understand the cost. In fact it was a very well run war with a casualty rate that was far below any other war that had been going on for this number of years.

I just can't agree with the war because I don't see it ever being "winnable." It's a war that will never end. In fact, it's a "war" that could even create more enemies.

At first, people supported it because we had just been attacked and were pissed and frightened. Then, people started to realize that it's a really stupid war.
 
Re: Was George W Bush a good president?

I just can't agree with the war because I don't see it ever being "winnable." It's a war that will never end. In fact, it's a "war" that could even create more enemies.

At first, people supported it because we had just been attacked and were pissed and frightened. Then, people started to realize that it's a really stupid war.

The war was absolutely winnable until it became politicized, something that's remarkably easy to do in much of the western world these days. The enemies were always out there, as we can see from 9/11 itself and other attacks, and because of the weakness of the media, and the left of course, the West has become far more vulnerable to further attacks. This is just the beginning of the real war now and America will have difficulty in responding.
 
Re: Was George W Bush a good president?

The war was absolutely winnable until it became politicized, something that's remarkably easy to do in much of the western world these days. The enemies were always out there, as we can see from 9/11 itself and other attacks, and because of the weakness of the media, and the left of course, the West has become far more vulnerable to further attacks. This is just the beginning of the real war now and America will have difficulty in responding.

Anything you can do to blame the Bad Stuff on liberals, you will. Sad and pathetic partisan hackery.
 
Re: Was George W Bush a good president?

Anything you can do to blame the Bad Stuff on liberals, you will. Sad and pathetic partisan hackery.

Are you going to continue to whine or try to prove me wrong? If you have nothing worthwhile to add, you should just move on. You actually epitomize liberals and it seems that you somehow sense that.
 
Re: Was George W Bush a good president?

Are you going to continue to whine or try to prove me wrong? If you have nothing worthwhile to add, you should just move on. You actually epitomize liberals and it seems that you somehow sense that.

I don't even know what the hell this means.

It wasn't liberals who broke Iraq in the first place.
 
Re: Was George W Bush a good president?

Historians don't think that Mr. Bush was a good President. They have placed him in the bottom third of all American Presidents.
 
Re: Was George W Bush a good president?[W:439]

Historians don't think that Mr. Bush was a good President. They have placed him in the bottom third of all American Presidents.

" Historians " ?

Damn how time flies.

Bush was a Good presidential, but more importantly a Good man.

A honest man and that's something that we're sorely missing now.

From the IRS to Benghazi to Fast and Furious to Obama's payback for ths Southern States, one thing is certain.

Character and integrity matters in a leader.
 
Re: Was George W Bush a good president?

The war was absolutely winnable until it became politicized, something that's remarkably easy to do in much of the western world these days. The enemies were always out there, as we can see from 9/11 itself and other attacks, and because of the weakness of the media, and the left of course, the West has become far more vulnerable to further attacks. This is just the beginning of the real war now and America will have difficulty in responding.

How do you win a war with no defined enemy? We cannot possibly kill and capture ALL the terrorists. There are new ones born every day. In fact, I wonder if our actions might perhaps create even MORE terrorists?
 
Re: Was George W Bush a good president?

Historians don't think that Mr. Bush was a good President. They have placed him in the bottom third of all American Presidents.

Historians? Bush is only out of office a very short while and is not yet to be judged by 'historians'.
 
Re: Was George W Bush a good president?

How do you win a war with no defined enemy? We cannot possibly kill and capture ALL the terrorists. There are new ones born every day. In fact, I wonder if our actions might perhaps create even MORE terrorists?
Our actions do create more terrorists when we inflict collateral damage to innocent lives with cruise missiles and drones, rather than using bullets against a seen enemy. Both Clinton and Obama seem to be doing their best to create terrorists.
 
Re: Was George W Bush a good president?

How do you win a war with no defined enemy? We cannot possibly kill and capture ALL the terrorists. There are new ones born every day. In fact, I wonder if our actions might perhaps create even MORE terrorists?
We needn't kill or capture all terrorists, we need only to kill enough to discourage the movement. Terrorism was under greater control a few years ago then it is now and that's largely because of retreats from both Iraq and Afghanistan. And of course releasing terrorists in this latest deal will certainly give them greater confidence.

We are acting out of fear, seeming to hope that being nice to them will encourage terrorists to be nice to us. And while we debate over whose fault all of this Islamism continues to grow. We are 1938 Europeans,willfully ignoring the message being sent to us.
 
Re: Was George W Bush a good president?

We needn't kill or capture all terrorists, we need only to kill enough to discourage the movement. Terrorism was under greater control a few years ago then it is now and that's largely because of retreats from both Iraq and Afghanistan. And of course releasing terrorists in this latest deal will certainly give them greater confidence.

We are acting out of fear, seeming to hope that being nice to them will encourage terrorists to be nice to us. And while we debate over whose fault all of this Islamism continues to grow. We are 1938 Europeans,willfully ignoring the message being sent to us.
I think our problem is we are too coddled as a society. The culture terrorists come from only understand authoritarianism, and death as a punishment for not falling in line. Our actions do little to detour them, and primarily embolden them. We need to either step up our wartime actions to killing rather than capturing the enemy, or walk away and let them fight each other.
 
Re: Was George W Bush a good president?

I think our problem is we are too coddled as a society. The culture terrorists come from only understand authoritarianism, and death as a punishment for not falling in line. Our actions do little to detour them, and primarily embolden them. We need to either step up our wartime actions to killing rather than capturing the enemy, or walk away and let them fight each other.

That's a plan but if we walk away from them how can we be assured they will walk away from us?

What should be of concern is that Pakistan has nuclear weapons and they are gradually being taken over by Islamists. And soon they will have MidEast oil to bankroll the Islamists everywhere. I doubt they want to ignore America.

It would be prudent to open all energy sources, including coal, gas exploration, and nuclear energy. The time has come to get serious about energy and to only experiment with alternate sources of energy a sideline. Now we need proven systems to keep the economies independent. .
 
Re: Was George W Bush a good president?

We needn't kill or capture all terrorists, we need only to kill enough to discourage the movement. Terrorism was under greater control a few years ago then it is now and that's largely because of retreats from both Iraq and Afghanistan. And of course releasing terrorists in this latest deal will certainly give them greater confidence.

We are acting out of fear, seeming to hope that being nice to them will encourage terrorists to be nice to us. And while we debate over whose fault all of this Islamism continues to grow. We are 1938 Europeans,willfully ignoring the message being sent to us.

There are terrorists all over the world though. I don't see this being a realistic goal.
 
Re: Was George W Bush a good president?

Our actions do create more terrorists when we inflict collateral damage to innocent lives with cruise missiles and drones, rather than using bullets against a seen enemy. Both Clinton and Obama seem to be doing their best to create terrorists.

True, but it's not like the terrorists don't purposely hide behind and use innocent civilians.
 
Re: Was George W Bush a good president?

Apparently they were for all this if the The President, Congress, the Senate and the people favored it and people should understand the cost. In fact it was a very well run war with a casualty rate that was far below any other war that had been going on for this number of years.

As I said, they favored it as long as they didn't have to do anything for it.
I can't help but wonder just how many were conflating the invasion of Iraq and the attack on the WTC, and whether that totally unrelated war would have been so acceptable had the attack of 9/11 not taken place.
 
Re: Was George W Bush a good president?

I can think of something that happened in 2001 that was more than "a small crisis". It also had a GREAT deal to do with the economic downturn.

It also resulted in W's Patriot Act, which gave license to violate the privacy of regular, innocent Americans.

W was incapable of articulate off-script speech - very embarrassing for a leader in his position.
 
Re: Was George W Bush a good president?

There are terrorists all over the world though. I don't see this being a realistic goal.
Yes, there are but, as many keep explaining, not all Muslims are terrorists. We would need to work with the democracies and, more importantly, those Muslims who are also fighting terrorism, who do not want Sharia Law imposed on them. But after we abandoned both Iraq and Afghanistan and left them to their own meager devices, can any Muslim leader really trust us anymore? And despite the reluctance of Americans to get involved the world still needs American leadership. We have to demonstrate that we are serious about this 'War On Terrorism" but so far we have not done that.
 
Re: Was George W Bush a good president?

There you go. Bring up a totally unrelated issue.

It is absolutely related and will rank as the lowest point in American electorate history. Had the people elected a stronger and more experienced President many of these threads wouldn't even exist.
 
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