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Was George W Bush a good president?[W:439:621]

Was George W Bush a good president?

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Re: Was George W Bush a good president?

APACHERAT said:
Bush was just following the law that President Clinton signed into law, the Iraq Liberation Act of 1998.

But some of the Democrats didn't want to uphold the law that Clinton signed into law, remember ?

So they (Bush administration) went with the WMD route knowing that libs were still scared with Muslims having WMD's.
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I remember. I have pointed to this law Clinton signed before myself.

Liberal politicians like to feel good by talking about such things, but the never intend to do it.

Do you liberal voters like being lied to?
 
Re: Was George W Bush a good president?

Nope, he was crap. Just like Obama.
 
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I believe it is effectively impossible to measure the degree to which Palin was unqualified to be on that ticket. It's mind-boggling.
 
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mmi said:
I believe it is effectively impossible to measure the degree to which Palin was unqualified to be on that ticket. It's mind-boggling.
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Funny.

That's how I feel about Obomba.
 
Re: Was George W Bush a good president?

Lord of Planar said:
I remember. I have pointed to this law Clinton signed before myself.

Liberal politicians like to feel good by talking about such things, but the never intend to do it.

Do you liberal voters like being lied to?
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Rhetorical question?
 
Re: Was George W Bush a good president?

tres borrachos said:
Rhetorical question?
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LOL...

I couldn't help myself.

The devil made me say it. Afterall, my last auto repair bill for labor was $7.2 hrs at 92.5/hr.

wait...

It's Friday the 13th! That's my excuse.

OK, what's my excuse going to be for tomorrow?
 
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Lord of Planar said:
LOL...

I couldn't help myself.

The devil made me say it. Afterall, my last auto repair bill for labor was $7.2 hrs at 92.5/hr.

wait...

It's Friday the 13th! That's my excuse.

OK, what's my excuse going to be for tomorrow?
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Bush made you do it?;)
 
Re: Was George W Bush a good president?

He wasn't as bad as Cheney.

Seriously, though, it's an absolute fact that the President has a lot less power than we all imagine. Disaster after disaster happened under Bush, and I'm not talking about "scandals" like Benghazi or the IRS - if you consider those to be legitimate scandals, I won't argue with you. But imagine 9/11 happening in 2011, or the initial bailouts happening under Obama, or the Iraq weapons of mass destruction debacle happening under Obama. Lying about the cause of Benghazi versus lying about the cause of an all out war. These things are barely comparable, the latter being so, so, so much worse.

It's always politics as usual in Washington. Congressmen porking up bills for their constituents, paying favors back and forth, turning a blind eye to corruption. Corporations and their lobbyists pulling the strings. Incompetent bureaucrats bungling everything they touch. Our system has been overwrought with inefficiency, corporatism, and favoritism. Not to mention the nepotism. The failings of Obama and Bush are systematic failings that usually start in the legislative branch and end in the judicial branch. The executive branch is just the middle man in all this mayhem and incompetence.

Being a great president means increasing efficiency, decreasing inefficiency, and focusing on common sense solutions that help more people than they hurt. I think Obama is a better president because he at least tries to focus on common sense solutions that help more people than they hurt. But Bush and Obama are doomed to be remembered as presidents that failed to increase efficiency and decrease inefficiency and probably presidents who did more harm than good on both measures.
 
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Mustachio said:
He wasn't as bad as Cheney.

Seriously, though, it's an absolute fact that the President has a lot less power than we all imagine. Disaster after disaster happened under Bush, and I'm not talking about "scandals" like Benghazi or the IRS - if you consider those to be legitimate scandals, I won't argue with you. But imagine 9/11 happening in 2011, or the initial bailouts happening under Obama, or the Iraq weapons of mass destruction debacle happening under Obama. Lying about the cause of Benghazi versus lying about the cause of an all out war. These things are barely comparable, the latter being so, so, so much worse.

It's always politics as usual in Washington. Congressmen porking up bills for their constituents, paying favors back and forth, turning a blind eye to corruption. Corporations and their lobbyists pulling the strings. Incompetent bureaucrats bungling everything they touch. Our system has been overwrought with inefficiency, corporatism, and favoritism. Not to mention the nepotism. The failings of Obama and Bush are systematic failings that usually start in the legislative branch and end in the judicial branch. The executive branch is just the middle man in all this mayhem and incompetence.

Being a great president means increasing efficiency, decreasing inefficiency, and focusing on common sense solutions that help more people than they hurt. I think Obama is a better president because he at least tries to focus on common sense solutions that help more people than they hurt. But Bush and Obama are doomed to be remembered as presidents that failed to increase efficiency and decrease inefficiency and probably presidents who did more harm than good on both measures.
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You make some really good points, but whether or not Obama has done "common sense" things is up for debate. ;)
 
Re: Was George W Bush a good president?

DA60 said:
So, in the two surveys so far;

GWB has 75% negative and Obama has 68% negative.


So basically, most American voters are USELESS at choosing POTUS's.

Well duh.


And, imo, the next one, whomever it is and from whichever party, will be as least as useless as these two at 'running' America.

Wake up America, the fault is not those in the White House...it's yours for putting them there.
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Considering the alternatives, Obama was the correct choice.
 
Re: Was George W Bush a good president?

michijo said:
Bush was another yahoo from New England that liked living on farms and never rode a public bus in his life. If only he had embraced suspenders culture and put some weight on. He would have made a good plumber and been a valued member of the pipefitters union.
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He is from New England is he? There is a family of Turkish minorities living around here. Their last name is "Bush" also. So was wondering if George Bush senior and/or junior have Turkish roots or so?
 
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DDD said:
He is from New England is he? There is a family of Turkish minorities living around here. Their last name is "Bush" also. So was wondering if George Bush senior and/or junior have Turkish roots or so?
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As far as I know the Bush name is deeply and truly New England in origin. He goes up to Maine in the summer and has a big house up there. Bush family is new england family. I lived in New England, but my family is not in New England. I sort of throw Bush in with John Kerry, Mitt Romney, Jill Stein, all these New England politicians who I have come to dislike heavily. I think New England should join Canada and take these people along, even if it means extraditing Bush from his Texas ranch.
 
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michijo said:
I think New England should join Canada and take these people along, even if it means extraditing Bush from his Texas ranch.
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I liked yer description of Bush so much that I went back and "liked" it. My opposition to joining Canada would largely "center" around my disgust for the Montreal Canadiens hockey team. I might be willing to support a secession by Texas.
 
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vasuderatorrent said:
Was George W Bush a good president?
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You left no options for those who don't lean right or left. That's the huge flaw in your poll.
 
Re: Was George W Bush a good president?

michijo said:
As far as I know the Bush name is deeply and truly New England in origin. He goes up to Maine in the summer and has a big house up there. Bush family is new england family. I lived in New England, but my family is not in New England. I sort of throw Bush in with John Kerry, Mitt Romney, Jill Stein, all these New England politicians who I have come to dislike heavily. I think New England should join Canada and take these people along, even if it means extraditing Bush from his Texas ranch.
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Interesting. I live in New England, and IMO there is no similarity between Kerry, Romney & the Bushes.

Jill Stein was actually raised in Illinois, not New England. She didn't find her way to New England until she went to Harvard.

Thanks, but this New Englander has no interest in joining Canada.

How come you left all of the Kennedys off your list?
 
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tres borrachos said:
Interesting. I live in New England, and IMO there is no similarity between Kerry, Romney & the Bushes.

Jill Stein was actually raised in Illinois, not New England. She didn't find her way to New England until she went to Harvard.

Thanks, but this New Englander has no interest in joining Canada.

How come you left all of the Kennedys off your list?
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Kennedys can join the list. I universally wrote off New England politicians. I was up there involved with the Green Party and did like marches with Jill Stein against the tar sands pipeline into Portland. In the end I became disgusted with the political moves of the Green Party, which is basically a new england party. I would rather support the Sierra Club than those Green types. In Europe they are already finished as a self-promoting elite that salts the streets that childen sled on and supports male-hating feminists who want all men to have low-self esteem.

In fact, New England is really no different than the south. That fact, and after all the low-self esteem with people down south thinking its better educated and better for liberals in the northeast. Then you have to see how poor and anti-intellectual some people in New England are with backward transportation systems once you leave Boston. The south seems more advanced.
 
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Puigb said:
Considering the alternatives, Obama was the correct choice.
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In what universe is a Jr Senator, ex-Community organizer Progresseive with a paper thin resume EVER the better alternative ?

We needed a competent leader, not a media pop icon creation.

There are REAL consequences to elections, especially Presidential elections.
 
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michijo said:
Kennedys can join the list. I universally wrote off New England politicians. I was up there involved with the Green Party and did like marches with Jill Stein against the tar sands pipeline into Portland. In the end I became disgusted with the political moves of the Green Party, which is basically a new england party. I would rather support the Sierra Club than those Green types. In Europe they are already finished as a self-promoting elite that salts the streets that childen sled on and supports male-hating feminists who want all men to have low-self esteem.

In fact, New England is really no different than the south. That fact, and after all the low-self esteem with people down south thinking its better educated and better for liberals in the northeast. Then you have to see how poor and anti-intellectual some people in New England are with backward transportation systems once you leave Boston. The south seems more advanced.
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What about Barney Frank? How do you feel about him?
 
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mmi said:
I liked yer description of Bush so much that I went back and "liked" it. My opposition to joining Canada would largely "center" around my disgust for the Montreal Canadiens hockey team. I might be willing to support a secession by Texas.
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The Habs aren't very popular in Toronto either. Except among the very small French-Canadian population.
 
Re: Was George W Bush a good president?

Bush = Obama. They both sucked.
 
Re: Was George W Bush a good president?

rocket88 said:
Considering all the permanent stains on New England, I think they'll survive.
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What do you know about it? Are you from New England? Ever lived here? What do you know about Barney Frank?
 
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