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Was George W Bush a good president?[W:439:621]

Was George W Bush a good president?


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Re: Was George W Bush a good president?

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Bush took the USA into an unnecessary, expensive war in Iraq which didn't make the USA any safer but did help Iran.
Bush is one of the best presidents Iran has ever had.
 
Re: Was George W Bush a good president?

No, not good at all. However, he was a scapegoat for many things that simpletons credit him with. For instance, only the dimmest mouth-breathers can blame him for the subprime crisis.

I don't like him for excessive Iraq intervention, the creation of No Child Left Behind (fortunately it was so under-funded that it may as well have never existed) and the introduction of "too big to fail" in our vocabularies.
 
Re: Was George W Bush a good president?

No, not good at all. However, he was a scapegoat for many things that simpletons credit him with. For instance, only the dimmest mouth-breathers can blame him for the subprime crisis.
Why not blame him. A good leader would not have ignored the problem.

It doesn't matter that Democrats didn't see it either. That just makes Democrats just as bad as Republicans. But since Republicans were in power, then it become their responsibility.
 
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Why not blame him. A good leader would not have ignored the problem.

It doesn't matter that Democrats didn't see it either. That just makes Democrats just as bad as Republicans. But since Republicans were in power, then it become their responsibility.

Thank you. Now every major issue that's happened in the last 6 years, I'll just say "Thanks, Obama!", since you've given it merit.

Anyone who buys a house they cannot afford with a down payment that hardly exists from a bank that has no business providing a loan - and blames the president - doesn't deserve to have a thing. Stupidity should never go unrewarded.

It's a damn shame about all the nutball shooters lately, isn't it? THANKS OBAMA!
 
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Thank you. Now every major issue that's happened in the last 6 years, I'll just say "Thanks, Obama!", since you've given it merit.

Anyone who buys a house they cannot afford with a down payment that hardly exists from a bank that has no business providing a loan - and blames the president - doesn't deserve to have a thing. Stupidity should never go unrewarded.

It's a damn shame about all the nutball shooters lately, isn't it? THANKS OBAMA!

I am not blaming the president Bush for people's financial malinvestments. If you lost money to financial crisis, then that is your fault. I am blaming him for the economic meltdown.

In 2001 there was a small crisis. The response of the politicians was to reduce interest rates from 5-6% to 1% and implement tax cuts. They wanted to make the crisis as small as possible. That was a really bad idea and only worked short term. The new liquidity caused property prices to skyrocket. In fact a lot of people bought expensive properties, because they expected property prices to keep rising.

That was mistake #1. By 2005 it was very clear what is happening and it did not look pretty. Even Alan Greenspan realized US had a problem and started to increase interest rates. At that time Bush could have gone out and said we are risking an economic crisis and we need to do something. Instead he totally ignored the whole problem and just hoped it won't crash under his presidency. It was his responsibility to lead the US, and he failed.

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Re: Was George W Bush a good president?

I am not blaming the president Bush for people's financial malinvestments. If you lost money to financial crisis, then that is your fault. I am blaming him for the economic meltdown.

In 2001 there was a small crisis. The response of the politicians was to reduce interest rates from 5-6% to 1% and implement tax cuts. They wanted to make the crisis as small as possible. That was a really bad idea and only worked short term. The new liquidity caused property prices to skyrocket. In fact a lot of people bought expensive properties, because they expected property prices to keep rising.

That was mistake #1. By 2005 it was very clear what is happening and it did not look pretty. Even Alan Greenspan realized US had a problem and started to increase interest rates. At that time Bush could have gone out and said we are risking an economic crisis and we need to do something. Instead he totally ignored the whole problem and just hoped it won't crash under his presidency. It was his responsibility to lead the US, and he failed.

PriceIncome-ratio-500-780230.jpg

It's always nice when a person posts a link with their chart. We aren't getting the whole story with just a chart.
 
Re: Was George W Bush a good president?

I am not blaming the president Bush for people's financial malinvestments. If you lost money to financial crisis, then that is your fault. I am blaming him for the economic meltdown.

In 2001 there was a small crisis. The response of the politicians was to reduce interest rates from 5-6% to 1% and implement tax cuts. They wanted to make the crisis as small as possible. That was a really bad idea and only worked short term. The new liquidity caused property prices to skyrocket. In fact a lot of people bought expensive properties, because they expected property prices to keep rising.

That was mistake #1. By 2005 it was very clear what is happening and it did not look pretty. Even Alan Greenspan realized US had a problem and started to increase interest rates. At that time Bush could have gone out and said we are risking an economic crisis and we need to do something. Instead he totally ignored the whole problem and just hoped it won't crash under his presidency. It was his responsibility to lead the US, and he failed.

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I can think of something that happened in 2001 that was more than "a small crisis". It also had a GREAT deal to do with the economic downturn.
 
Re: Was George W Bush a good president?

It's always nice when a person posts a link with their chart. We aren't getting the whole story with just a chart.

The chart is used to show that, when interest rates was dropped from 5% to 1%, it led to a property bubble.

Of course we don't get the whole story with just a chart, but I never claim I was trying to show the whole story. If I was going to write about the economic crisis I would need lots of charts and lots of writing and none of you would bother to read it.
 
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I can think of something that happened in 2001 that was more than "a small crisis". It also had a GREAT deal to do with the economic downturn.

No it wasn't the main cause. The growth rate and the interest rate dropped before September 11.

It was due to the dotcom bubble, which led to unemployment in IT sectors.

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Was George W Bush a good president?

Absolutely not.

Don't get me wrong - he did a few things right, a few things that were good (try getting our conservatives here to say the same thing about Obama!)...but overall, he was terrible...worse than any other president since Woodrow Wilson.
 
Re: Was George W Bush a good president?

Given the challenges of his early months in office, I would say yes.
 
Re: Was George W Bush a good president?

Absolutely not.

Don't get me wrong - he did a few things right, a few things that were good (try getting our conservatives here to say the same thing about Obama!)...but overall, he was terrible...worse than any other president since Woodrow Wilson.

As of 5 minutes ago there was 49 No votes for Bush, 17 Yes votes for Bush, 41 No votes for Obama, 18 Yes votes for Obama, 24 Yes votes for Clinton and 6 no votes for Clinton.

As of now the approval rating of Bush among DP participants is 25.7%. The approval rating of Obama among DP participants is 30.5%. The approval rating of Clinton among DP participants is 80.0%.

The interest in voting in the poll was highest for Bush. Fewer people chimed in to vote on Obama. Even fewer people chimed in to vote on Clinton. Satisfied people are less likely to vote than happy people. With that in mind we can expect that Clinton's approval rating is probably higher than 80.0%.
 
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They're all the same. He's no better or worse than any other paid contractor.
 
Re: Was George W Bush a good president?

It's G.W. Bush's archives.

Which is essentially George Bushes site. You essentially copied and pasted faulty intelligence as valid intelgence.
 
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It's always nice when a person posts a link with their chart. We aren't getting the whole story with just a chart.
You won't since you are ignoring HIS WORDS, try reading.
 
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You won't since you are ignoring HIS WORDS, try reading.

I'm not talking to you, and I don't have to take his WORD for anything without a link to read supporting data for the chart.
 
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I'm not talking to you,
Actually you are....and it is REALLY frigging weird that I have to point this out
and I don't have to take his WORD for anything without a link to read supporting data for the chart.
Support for the chart? The chart shows the housing price bubble.....are you questioning that there was a housing price bubble?

Are you unaware that we had a housing price bubble? Do you need a link to Faux news confirming we had a housing price bubble?
 
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Actually you are....and it is REALLY frigging weird that I have to point this outSupport for the chart? The chart shows the housing price bubble.....are you questioning that there was a housing price bubble?

Are you unaware that we had a housing price bubble? Do you need a link to Faux news confirming we had a housing price bubble?

I want to read the accompanying data. I'm placing you on ignore now, so bye-bye!
 
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I want to read the accompanying data. I'm placing you on ignore now, so bye-bye!
OK, you are confirming that you did not know we had a housing price bubble....because....you need the supporting evidence.

ROFLOL.
 
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I'm not talking to you, and I don't have to take his WORD for anything without a link to read supporting data for the chart.

I am not sure why you want supporting data. Are you unsure if there was a housing bubble? What exactly do you expect to be wrong about the chart, it is a very common chart that most people should be familiar with, if they have an opinion about the financial crisis.

If you want the source for the data, just look for property prices House Price Index | Federal Housing Finance Agency and adjust it for income.
 
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I am not sure why you want supporting data. Are you unsure if there was a housing bubble? What exactly do you expect to be wrong about the chart, it is a very common chart that most people should be familiar with, if they have an opinion about the financial crisis.

If you want the source for the data, just look for property prices House Price Index | Federal Housing Finance Agency and adjust it for income.

Why do you ask that? I want to read what your source has to say about it, what do they blame it on, etc. I don't think that it's asking too much for your to post a link to source and let the readers decide for themselves whether or not they want to check it out. No one has asked you to explain the housing crisis, but only to post a link to your chart.
 
Re: Was George W Bush a good president?

Fixed it for you.

How cute. Shirking responsibility - like a good liberal.

Must be great to have zero culpability and a handy scapegoat. If you move to a socialist nation, you can live your dream.
 
Re: Was George W Bush a good president?

I am not blaming the president Bush for people's financial malinvestments. If you lost money to financial crisis, then that is your fault. I am blaming him for the economic meltdown.

In 2001 there was a small crisis. The response of the politicians was to reduce interest rates from 5-6% to 1% and implement tax cuts. They wanted to make the crisis as small as possible. That was a really bad idea and only worked short term. The new liquidity caused property prices to skyrocket. In fact a lot of people bought expensive properties, because they expected property prices to keep rising.

That was mistake #1. By 2005 it was very clear what is happening and it did not look pretty. Even Alan Greenspan realized US had a problem and started to increase interest rates. At that time Bush could have gone out and said we are risking an economic crisis and we need to do something. Instead he totally ignored the whole problem and just hoped it won't crash under his presidency. It was his responsibility to lead the US, and he failed.

PriceIncome-ratio-500-780230.jpg

Why did you leave out the fact that banks were giving mortgages to people that they knew would not be able to pay them. Maybe not illegal, but a lot of times banks and financial institutions were making some shady deals, and that played a role I think.

And what do you think of this. This article is a year old, but still.

The Obama administration is engaged in a broad push to make more home loans available to people with weaker credit, an effort that officials say will help power the economic recovery but that skeptics say could open the door to the risky lending that caused the housing crash in the first place.

President Obama’s economic advisers and outside experts say the nation’s much-celebrated housing rebound is leaving too many people behind, including young people looking to buy their first homes and individuals with credit records weakened by the recession.

Obama administration pushes banks to make home loans to people with weaker credit - The Washington Post
 
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Why do you ask that? I want to read what your source has to say about it, what do they blame it on, etc. I don't think that it's asking too much for your to post a link to source and let the readers decide for themselves whether or not they want to check it out. No one has asked you to explain the housing crisis, but only to post a link to your chart.

Normally the point of posting sources is to see where the data comes from. I don't want to be difficult, so the source is here http://econ.economicshelp.org/2009/06/falling-house-prices.htm
But I don't see the point, why do care about his opinion. There are lots of opinions out there and I don't particularly care about the link expect they gave me an useful chart to show my point.
 
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