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Has Obama been a good President?

Has Obama been a good President?

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Kobie said:
I think that's absolutely true. There's a cottage industry out there that attempts to paint Obama as some wild-eyed leftist, and he's simply not.
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I agree with that. I think demonizing a seated president is an effective political strategy. I'm not sure I see any evidence of his leftist communist tendencies.

Bill Clinton mentioned full employment in a television commercial endorsing Obama.
Joe Biden mentioned the right's desire to keep us in chains.
Both of these were references from the Communist Manifesto.

Words are words and mean nothing when coming from politician. Obama's policies especially the big one has no inkling of left wing ideology. I have heard that actions speak louder than words. For those of us who believe that know for a fact that Obama isn't a leftist at all.

For those of us that get pissed at political rhetoric used during a campaign season and never focus on anything else after the campaign is over, it is quite clear. Obama is certainly a leftist.

Do actions speak louder than words? Not always. So I guess it's up in the air.
 
ObamacareFail said:
Progressives seem to have very selective memories. Obama has actually not faced as much opposition as President Bush did. The left wing opposition and attacks against Bush were relentless. Obama on the other hand is partially shielded by the fact that he is the first African American president. Many are afraid of being thought of as racist if they oppose or criticize him.
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Sorry, but no. Bush II did indeed catch crap all through his 8 years. Some of the worst in history up to that point. But Obama's opposition has been much more intense and organized.

As far as the racism charges, yes they have been trying, but it's not sticking... except for those individuals who imagine racism around every corner.

And before someone else trots along and asks if I am saying that there is no racism toward the President, no, I am not saying that. There is some, just not as much as would be convenient to deflect attention from the man's otherwise weaknesses and shortcomings.


ObamacareFail said:
Unfortunately a president does have influence over gas prices. For instance, Obama holding up the Keystone Pipeline.
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Two points...

1) I meant day-to-day prices. What is bid on the exchanges the sitting President has no influence over.

2) The pipeline is going to a port to be sold on the open market. There is no guarantee whatsoever that that oil will end up here. You cannot, nor can anyone else, say with any amount of certainty that that oil will help our prices.
 
ChrisL said:
Utterly ridiculous. Bush is NOT the president and hasn't been for YEARS now. Get over it. The current issues are the responsibility of the current POTUS. Don't try to pawn off HIS responsibilities.
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What the f*** did you just read? Your post was completely irrelevant
 
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ChrisL said:
What's suspicious is how the government wants to force healthcare down our throats. IT should be a choice. OR, insurance companies should have to reimburse us for SOME of our unspent monies that we paid into it. Good LORD! Obama is an insurance companies BEST friend.
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If you are in excruciating pain and minutes away from dying, how are you going to make a rational choice of whether you want to be treated or not? It just isn't going to happen.

If you are unconscious, how can you make a decision on whether you want to be treated or not? It just isn't going to happen.

Everybody chooses to be treated when the time comes no matter how conservative, tough, broke or independent they are. Everybody wants their life saved. Political believes and moral convictions go straight to hell when you are in a life or death situation. This should be taken into consideration. We can't just give every person in the country a tattoo that says, "Do not treat me" or "Do treat me". Even if we did, would the doctors honor someone's request to refuse treatment?

A lot of people are treated against their will anyways. Should those people be required to pay even though they adamantly refused treatment? The health care business is trickier than you like to make it out to be.
 
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radcen said:
Sorry, but no. Bush II did indeed catch crap all through his 8 years. Some of the worst in history up to that point. But Obama's opposition has been much more intense and organized..
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B.S.

Two points...

1) I meant day-to-day prices. What is bid on the exchanges the sitting President has no influence over.

2) The pipeline is going to a port to be sold on the open market. There is no guarantee whatsoever that that oil will end up here. You cannot, nor can anyone else, say with any amount of certainty that that oil will help our prices.
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However the open market prices are in fact effected by how much oil becomes available. And it is not just about the Keystone pipeline. It is also about restrictions on offshore drilling and prevention of drilling at some of the 1.5 million acres of ANWR in Alaska. Therefore I can say with certainty that oil that Obama prevents getting to market can keep the prices high at the pumps.
 
radcen said:
Is it? Why should I take the word of a person so completely biased to their core than they can't resist choosing a screen name based on the person they rail against? There isn't an ounce of objectivity in your being.
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Ranting against my moniker is a cop out. And the truth is that my moniker is against the healthcare bill championed by Obama. I could have went with ACAfail, however pretty much every associates the bill with Obama as it is supposedly his signature achievement. And ObamacareFail is a bit more artistic then ACAFail.
 
Flawed poll, imo...not every American is left or right leaning.

How about just yes, no, unsure/no comment?
 
ObamacareFail said:
Ranting against my moniker is a cop out. And the truth is that my moniker is against the healthcare bill championed by Obama. I could have went with ACAfail, however pretty much every associates the bill with Obama as it is supposedly his signature achievement. And ObamacareFail is a bit more artistic then ACAFail.
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:lol: Ok, if you say so.

"Artistic"... whew! :tongue4:
 
Kobie said:
"Hope and Change" is a campaign slogan. Big fat hairy deal.



They all promise they'll be "different."
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Must be her first election. Although she speaks like she's only in HS.
 
radcen said:
:lol: Ok, if you say so.

"Artistic"... whew! :tongue4:
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In any case my moniker is no more biased then your "Look to your left... I'm that guy." location in your profile.
 
ObamacareFail said:
In any case my moniker is no more biased then your "Look to your left... I'm that guy." location in your profile.
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Are you suggesting I used "left" as in politically? Wow... :lamo

Hate to break it to ya, but until just now that had never occurred to me. It is simply a literal direction, and could just as easily have been "look to your right", or "look at the person seated behind you". The person seated on the left side of your body, nothing more.

I swear, sometimes people insist on reading more into things than is really there. I nominate your's for Post of the Day. That's the best laugh I've had in quite some time.

:beam:
 
radcen said:
Are you suggesting I used "left" as in politically? Wow... :lamo

Hate to break it to ya, but until just now that had never occurred to me. It is simply a literal direction, and could just as easily have been "look to your right", or "look at the person seated behind you". The person seated on the left side of your body, nothing more.

I swear, sometimes people insist on reading more into things than is really there. I nominate your's for Post of the Day. That's the best laugh I've had in quite some time.

:beam:
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Speaking of which, is "radcen" supposed to be "radical centrist?"
 
radcen said:
Are you suggesting I used "left" as in politically? Wow... :lamo

Hate to break it to ya, but until just now that had never occurred to me. It is simply a literal direction, and could just as easily have been "look to your right", or "look at the person seated behind you". The person seated on the left side of your body, nothing more.

I swear, sometimes people insist on reading more into things than is really there. I nominate your's for Post of the Day. That's the best laugh I've had in quite some time.

:beam:
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Yeah...right. :roll:
 
Cardinal said:
Speaking of which, is "radcen" supposed to be "radical centrist?"
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That has meaning and was the original intent, yes. The location is just something that I thought was funny.

I don't see the screen name as meaningful as I originally did, but at the same time I am not inclined to change it, either. It's just kind of "meh" to me now.
 
radcen said:
That has meaning and was the original intent, yes. The location is just something that I thought was funny.

I don't see the screen name as meaningful as I originally did, but at the same time I am not inclined to change it, either. It's just kind of "meh" to me now.
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Ditto.

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ObamacareFail said:
Some...yes.
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Stopping to ask for directions must be a complicated procedure for you. Like, when someone tells you to turn left at the gas station, how do you know they're not advising you to be more socialist?
 
Cardinal said:
Stopping to ask for directions must be a complicated procedure for you. Like, when someone tells you to turn left at the gas station, how do you know they're not advising you to be more socialist?
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I happen to know my way around...and if I am in an unfamiliar area...I use GPS.
 
ObamacareFail said:
I happen to know my way around...and if I am in an unfamiliar area...I use GPS.
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So do I. Mine will tell me to "turn left" and "turn right," which pisses me off because I'm like, dude, I just want to get to the restaurant, don't bring your damn politics into it.
 
Obama is a mediocre president with a mediocre track record. He would have lost in '12 if the GOP hadn't tripped all over itself throughout the primary season tearing down Mittens in the process. In fact, Obama had about as rotten a year before winning reelection as George Bush Jr, who also only won because the opposition candidate was a terrible choice that no one really liked.
 
calamity said:
Obama is a mediocre president with a mediocre track record. He would have lost in '12 if the GOP hadn't tripped all over itself throughout the primary season tearing down Mittens in the process. In fact, Obama had about as rotten a year before winning reelection as George Bush Jr, who also only won because the opposition candidate was a terrible choice that no one really liked.
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That opposition candidate was "swift boated by the truth."
 
APACHERAT said:
That opposition candidate was "swift boated by the truth."
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He was swift boated by his being a horse-faced, uncharismatic, dreary bastard.
 
Cardinal said:
So do I. Mine will tell me to "turn left" and "turn right," which pisses me off because I'm like, dude, I just want to get to the restaurant, don't bring your damn politics into it.
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There have been times in DP that I have used the word "correct" because of context and I didn't want someone to confuse the meaning of "right".
 
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