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Should door to door mail delivery end?

What do you think of the new Post Office proposal?

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radcen said:
No no no. It doesn't have to be subsidized. As long some kind of connection is "available", that good enough. I have my connection, so I have no empathy for others. As someone else said, let them eat cake.
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Right, because that worked out so well for Marie Antoinette. :lol:

If people are going to be forced to have internet for communication, the government will have to subsidize, and not only that, they'll have to provide computers to those who can't afford them.
 
Superfly said:
Right, because that worked out so well for Marie Antoinette. :lol:

If people are going to be forced to have internet for communication, the government will have to subsidize, and not only that, they'll have to provide computers to those who can't afford them.
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Why should the government provide anything? The stuff is there. Save your own money and get it.

(And yes, I'm mocking those people who have been displaying this mindset.)
 
Superfly said:
Satellite internet is extremely expensive. I am locked down with AT&T in my neighborhood and we looked into it, and not only is it extremely expensive, it limits your usage. Seems like it was a several hundred dollar start-up fee, plus a hundred a month for 6g, and the service itself was a lot slower than we were used to. We ended up staying with AT&T.
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No it's not, I had it for years, back in the day, and it was no more expensive than anything else. It's horrible for online gaming, but for general usage, it's just one more option. It's often offered by satellite companies and if you already have a dish on the roof, there very few start up costs.
 
Lursa said:
How does it save the govt (meaning taxpayers) money? I thought that the USP was completely supported by it's own income (stamps, sales, etc)?
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I think that debate is going on in this thread. Some call it self-sufficient. Some call it subsidized because it receives low interest or zero interest loans from the government. They are also exempt from taxes at all levels of government. They are also exempt from many government fees such as business licensing, parking tickets, traffic tickets, building permits and things like that.

It isn't directly subsidized. I think we all agree on that.
 
Mason66 said:
Well that is great for you but it is presumptuous to think everybody in the country does the same thing.

I want a hard copy of the bill and payment. I don't trust electronic files as they are easily lost.
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Cephus is right but I think his opinion is about 20 years too early. I think electronic payments and things like that will be more trustworthy in the future thus more widely accepted. Also some of the older citizens won't be around in 20 years.

Many people don't have a computer in their home and probably never will. Rural delivery is still somewhat necessary at this particular time. People wouldn't die without it but it would make things more difficult for a lot of people. Going all online isn't a practical solution.
 
Lursa said:
Print whatever you want.
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Mason66 doesn't have a printer. He probably doesn't even have a computer. Wait!! :thinking What the heck? He just has to have a computer.
 
vasuderatorrent said:
Mason66 doesn't have a printer. He probably doesn't even have a computer. Wait!! :thinking What the heck? He just has to have a computer.
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I have a printer but why should I shoulder the expense of the toner or ink to print out what the billing company should?
 
DA60 said:
I guarantee you that most Americans get far more junk mail then important mail these days.
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Why can't junk mail be considered junk mail and important mail? I got an oil change for $9.99 because of a post card that I received in the mail. :nahnah:
 
Mason66 said:
I guess the people on this thread think you are SOL.
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If congress wouldn't let the Post Office stop Saturday deliveries then why would they stop rural deliveries? This is a fun topic to discuss but nothing is changing any time soon. This should be self evident.
 
vasuderatorrent said:
facebook already does that. To some people that's really annoying.
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When I had my business I had to send certified letters to the owners of cars to prove they knew about the impending sale.

I had to attach the signed return receipt or the returned letter to the documents.

How will that work with an email or from another carrier?

Anything in the computer can be falsified, so it will never carry any weight in a legal proceeding.
 
Mason66 said:
When I had my business I had to send certified letters to the owners of cars to prove they knew about the impending sale.

I had to attach the signed return receipt or the returned letter to the documents.

How will that work with an email or from another carrier?

Anything in the computer can be falsified, so it will never carry any weight in a legal proceeding.
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We bought a house via scanner.
 
Cephus said:
I've yet to find a place I can't pull my mail if I want to.
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I betcha there is a place. You just haven't been looking hard enough. Go about 20 miles into the mountains of Tennessee. Go mountain climbing on some of the higher mountains. There are a lot of places in the United States that are far away from civilization. Go to mountains of West Virginia. Some people there still don't have electricity or running water. :eek: Yep. It turns out that you are not the only person in the world. I know that is hard to believe.
 
Manc Skipper said:
What happens when the minimum number of "viable" postal delivery hubs is inevitably raised? Local deliveries in rural areas will stop, you'll have to collect the mail with the groceries in the nearest town, then the nearest city....
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That's a good idea. Groceries aren't delivered to your door. The grocery store would be a great place for the Post Office to rent space to provide mail boxes. People have to go there anyways.
 
radcen said:
This thread has some of the most egregious displays of ignorance I have seen in a long time. The part highlighted in red is the primary issue facing the USPS, and it's not a secret, yet I find it appalling that so few people are aware of it.
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They don't have the option of going out of business and then forming a new corporation. :(
 
Mason66 said:
I have a printer but why should I shoulder the expense of the toner or ink to print out what the billing company should?
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because you are the one that wants a hard copy. The company that is sending you a bill just wants it paid. They don't care if you have a copy or not. That is your preference not theirs.

Does that make sense?
 
From yahoo answers:


Why does the USPS deliver my package originally shipped by UPS?
I have had many packages delivered by UPS and FedEx in the past. Whichever company delivering the package used to deliver it directly to the shipping address indicated. I have been doing some Christmas shopping online over the last couple of weeks and all but one of my shipments were delivered to the USPS who in turn delivered it to the shipping address I indicated. Why???

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Both UPS Fedex have a service where they pick up the package and then deliver it to the local PO distribution center and the PO will make the delivery. It's the cheapest way to ship something. That's your answer, COST.
 
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