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Was Karl Marx Right About Capitalism?

Was Karl Marx Right About Capitalism?

  • Yes

    Votes: 30 41.1%

  • No

    Votes: 43 58.9%
  • Total voters
    73
RGacky3 said:
You didn't read the actual quote from Marx did you ...

READ BEFORE YOU POST!
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I have read a great deal of Karl Marx's work over the years. It is largely nonsense. A snippet here or there is irrelevant to that larger point.
 
MildSteel said:
Here's an interesting article by George Magnus, former Chief Economist at UBS, the biggest bank in Switzerland



SO

Was Karl Marx right about capitalism?
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He was so wrong about many things.

He wasn't a Scientist or a Scholar or a even a exceptionally intelligent human.

He didn't use data or objective analysis to pove his theories.

Just a crazy old man with more beard thsn brain
 
Misterveritis said:
I have read a great deal of Karl Marx's work over the years. It is largely nonsense. A snippet here or there is irrelevant to that larger point.
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You quoted someone talking about what Karl Marx said, and totally ignored the actual Karl Marx quote, InFact you ignored the entire argument of what Karl Marx was right about and threw a Red Herring, i.e. arguing about something totally unrelated.
 
I have no idea - I have never read 'Marx'.

I don't 'read' people...I read facts/data/events and make my own conclusions.
 
Marx's observation that the worker under capitalism is a mere commodity was on mark. The object of labor do not exist for the sake of the worker, but the worker exists for the sake of the objects of labor. Thus the worker's labor becomes an alien object which confronts him and over which he has little or no control. Thus, the worker wanders from place to place, like a pitiful puppy looking for a home, seeking employment. Frequently, he must take whatever is offered to him, regardless of whether it is something he likes or not. If he does not like what he is given, he must endure regardless, as there is no sympathy. If he complains, he is labeled a cry baby. And even if he may take some satisfaction in his work, he is confronted constantly with the fear of unemployment, because the capitalist cares little about him as a person, but rather how much surplus value can be extracted from his labor.

 
MildSteel said:
Marx's observation that the worker under capitalism is a mere commodity was on mark.
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Nonsense. Marx lived before democracy and human, civil, labor and environmental rights. These developments were unforeseen by him and they invalidate his monarch-era rants.
 
Yep, they get everything ass backwards. Then they "dap" each other as if they have really accomplished something. Amazing!

 
ecofarm said:
Nonsense. Marx lived before democracy and human, civil, labor and environmental rights. These developments were unforeseen by him and they invalidate his monarch-era rants.
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Stupid monkeys who don't know who, or what they are. Nothing more. No brain, nothing.

 
Reduced to no more than an ignorant fool who will eat the feces from another human's anus for money, the pathetic worker will defend this brutal system that has reduced him to such a pitiful state.
 
ecofarm said:
Nonsense. Marx lived before democracy and human, civil, labor and environmental rights. These developments were unforeseen by him and they invalidate his monarch-era rants.
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Yes this is why he entitled his most famous study on political economy Monarchy instead of Capital
 
MildSteel said:
Stupid monkeys who don't know who, or what they are. Nothing more. No brain, nothing.
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I've no idea what you're ranting about. But I'm sorry if you see people that way and I hope you change your attitude.


instagramsci said:
Yes this is why he entitled his most famous study on political economy Monarchy instead of Capital
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You don't understand. Capitalism was completely different in his time. There were no human, civil, labor or environmental rights. There was no democracy. No unions. No recourse for workers whatsoever, and no protections.

The world has changed in ways that he did not anticipate. To take his words in a modern context is tomfoolery.
 
ecofarm said:
You don't understand. Capitalism was completely different in his time. There were no human, civil, labor or environmental rights. There was no democracy. No unions. No recourse for workers whatsoever, and no protections.
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Yes the vast majority of workers worldwide are so much better off now
 
ecofarm said:
I've no idea what you're ranting about. But I'm sorry if you see people that way and I hope you change your attitude.
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I'm sorry you do not have the insight to see that people are treated no better than an ass in that they work very hard all day, then are given some dry grass to eat, and if they are lucky some sex, after being kicked in the face by a female ass. One day you will have compassion for people who are suffering under a brutal system of repression. Right now you sympathies lie with those who profit greatly from such exploitation and who leverage the ponzi scheme of fractional reserve banking. Yeah, that finance crowd is a rather interesting bunch.
 
MildSteel said:
I'm sorry you do not have the insight to see that people are treated no better than an ass in that they work very hard all day, then are given some dry grass to eat, and if they are lucky some sex, after being kicked in the face by a female ass.
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You should get a different job.
 
I have no idea if he was right or not about capitalism. He was sure as hell wrong about Marxism, however.
 
instagramsci said:
Probably some of the most functionally evil people in the world
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No doubt. They finance the bombing and destruction of innocent people so that they can make more money. They are at the root of the problems in the Middle East and elsewhere.
 
MildSteel said:
You don't know what I do, so please, don't offer any ignorant advice.
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Well, if my job was like what you described, I'd get a different one. I've never been at a workplace anywhere near anything like that. Are you sure the company you work for is legal?
 
ecofarm said:
Well, if my job was like what you described, I'd get a different one. I've never been at a workplace anywhere near anything like that. Are you sure the company you work for is legal?
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Are you sure that you know what you are talking about, or are you just spewing nonsense?
 
MildSteel said:
Really? So where exactly do I work? What exactly do I do? How much is my salary?

Tell me since it's so ironic.
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I have no idea where you work. But the conditions you describe are unbelievable. I've never witnessed any of the atrocities you describe, in any job I've had.

Perhaps you work in North Korea?
 
ecofarm said:
I have no idea where you work. But the conditions you describe are unbelievable. I've never witnessed any of the atrocities you describe, in any job I've had.

Perhaps you work in North Korea?
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That's right you have no idea, and that's the point.
 
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