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and what was my argument, when i said the federal government has no authority in the life's liberty and property of the people......what do i always talk about the interpretation of the constitution by the founders.
i have said several times on this forum, by placing a income on the people, government has the ability to control them.......as i have said many times"...the power to tax is the power to destroy", but even though they have the income tax, that does not give them authority to levy laws on the backs of people which does not concern taxes.
Therefore because the constitutional provides congress with the power to tax citizens, the federal government does indeed have the power to control property, because money is property. NOT ONLY THAT, but while that is a restricted type of property, THE FACT THAT THE AMENDMENT PROVIDES THE POWER DEMONSTRATES THAT CONGRESS DOES HAVE POWER OVER PEOPLE'S PROPERTY. This is because the amendment demonstrates the type of power that the constitution CAN bestow upon congress. In other words it is possible that the constitution can bestow power over other types of property on congress.
the Constitution authorizes them to take money...by creating laws concerning taxes.......other then that the congress has no authority over the people...notice i said congress, not the executive branch or judicial.
why would the founders throw off the the centralized power of a king, to turn around an put on the centralized power of a federal government........simple they didn't..... states where to govern their own people independently. but staying inside constitutional law.
The constitution does indeed authorize congress to take money, therefore, contrary to your assertion, congress does have power over people's property. I am not saying that the sixteenth amendment gave congress unlimited power with regards to citizen's property. But what I am saying is that YOU ARE WRONG WHEN YOU SAY CONGRESS HAS NO POWER OVER PEOPLE'S PROPERTY.
Throwing off the centralized power of a king is irrelevant. The point is that Congress has power over people's property. And although the sixteenth amendment provides for power over a restricted type of property, that amendment demonstrates that YOUR CONTENTION THAT CONGRESS DOES NOT HAVE POWER OVER PEOPLE'S PROPERTY IS WRONG!
again you are wrong, does the constitution mention people in the 16th amendment concerning taxes.....saying the people income will be taxed,
The constitution does not have to mention people in the sixteenth amendment to give Congress power over people's property, a particular type of property in this instance, income. The constitution gave congress the power to take people's money. That is a type of property. Therefore, YOUR CONTENTION THAT CONGRESS HAS NO POWER OVER PEOPLE'S MONEY IS WRONG.
does the 13th say the people will not have slaves...no
the constitution makes it unconstitutional.....(constitutional law here).......for governments to not allow slavery
WRONG!!!! The thirteenth amendment is not limited to merely governments. Again, here is the text
Section 1. Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction.
Section 2. Congress shall have power to enforce this article by appropriate legislation.
Here there is no restriction on governments. Where in the text does it say "congress shall make no laws that legalize slavery?" Where is it? It is not there. It is an absolute declaration that slavery shall not exist in the United Stated. PERIOD. It's not to be in the United States. It's not to be in laws. Neither can citizens practice it. NOT ONLY THAT, BUT IT GIVES CONGRESS THE POWER TO ENFORCE THE AMENDMENT. So again you are wrong. The thirteenth amendment is not limited to governments, but it also applies to citizens as well.
the constitution creates federalism , the separation of powers between the federal government and state government, it created no relationship between the people and the federal government.
again show me where the federal government is given power over the people, ...the federal government is not even given power over the states in the constitution.
I just showed you. The 13th and 16th amendments clearly give the government power over people. To state otherwise is absurd.
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