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Is Santa Claus White?

Is Santa Claus White?

  • Yes

    Votes: 10 55.6%

  • No

    Votes: 8 44.4%
  • Total voters
    18
Henrin said:
The initial concept was most likely thrown away if it was me. :lol: However, if I release the character looking a certain way that is how the character looks and while you can change his outfit, everything else about him should stay the same including his face, hair, race, sex, and other physical characters as they are who that character is and it should not be altered in any way from how I put it out or you are making your own character on top of mine and misrepresenting my creation.
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Dang bro! That was a looooong sentence!!! :lamo
 
tacomancer said:
I will ask you the same question I am asking Exxon. Does Mickey Mouse wear gloves?

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I already said that changing the clothes of the character is fine. When it becomes a problem is when you start to fundamentally alter the creation.
 
Excon said:
Wrong. Completely irrelevant as santa also has various orders of dress.

And the appropriate question would be is Micky a black mouse?
Of which the answer is yes.
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Mickey Mouse was a popular character in the thirties with a specific identifiable look, who's outfit was initially part of his identity as race and outfit tends to be for Santa. Therefore yes it is relevant.
 
DA60 said:
Where is the 'Why should I give a ****' choice?

What possible difference does it make what some media moron thinks about how much melanin is in the skin of a fictitious character?
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:rolleyes:
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To some people who are deeply involved in the war on/or about Xmas it makes a lot of difference.

They have their whole life tied up with this bull****.

They spend every moment of their life on this.
 
Henrin said:
I already said that changing the clothes of the character is fine. When it becomes a problem is when you start to fundamentally alter the creation.
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I should just start quoting you both in the same replies even though it's a pita to do on this phone.

In short see my reply to Exxon above to see why it matters.
 
Excon said:
Or are you saying that a white man can't be used to spread Christianity and it's morals (or lack there of) to all peoples?
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It causes cultural translation issues. Look at Jesus.
 
Excon said:
We already did. He objectively isn't white, but Santa objectively is.
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Therefore Mickey Mouse objectively does not wear gloves
 
Henrin said:
Grammar rebuttals aren't worth much. Thanks for wasting your time though.
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Calm down. It wasn't a rebuttal. I followed the sentence. I just thought it was somewhat humorous in that it was such a long sentence. Honestly, there was no offense intended.
 
tacomancer said:
Mickey Mouse was a popular character in the thirties with a specific identifiable look, who's outfit was initially part of his identity as race and outfit tends to be for Santa. Therefore yes it is relevant.
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And you are wrong.
You are speaking of dress.
That is not what we are speaking about when it comes to Santa.
It is an irrelevant comparison.

Santa is a while male. Micky is a black male mouse.
 
MildSteel said:
Here's what a Fox News commentator had to say



So what do you say?
Is Santa Claus white?
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After giving the matter a little additional thought I have come to the conclusion that Santa Claus is White and that he is also any other color that anyone wants him to be.

Kind of a 'one size fits all' thing.

Santa is for every child on this planet. So he has to fit in to every society.
 
Well, looks like most here say white, at least at this point.
 
Henrin said:
The initial concept was most likely thrown away if it was me. :lol: However, if I release the character looking a certain way that is how the character looks and while you can change his outfit, everything else about him should stay the same including his face, hair, race, sex, and other physical characters as they are who that character is and it should not be altered in any way from how I put it out or you are making your own character on top of mine and misrepresenting my creation.
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If Krampus can be depicted as in league with Santa, while still doing very Krampus-like deeds, you've significantly changed his character from what most Americans would accept. Instead of merely giving the kids coal, he turns the kiddies over to Krampus so he can boil them, eat them, or make them work as slaves.

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Excon said:
And you are wrong.
You are speaking of dress.
That is not what we are speaking about when it comes to Santa.
It is an irrelevant comparison.

Santa is a while male. Micky is a black male mouse.
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There is nothing special about the race of a fictional character it is a detail, just as are clothes, personality traits, or pretty much anything else. The desire to compare specific details is simply elevating on detail over another.

In reality both characters are tools used for branding and economic purposes to enrich their creator and are a holistic whole for that purpose. Like any brand they are adjusted over time as is needed as the audience changes.

You can pretend it's not the same all you wish to sadly hold on to some silly emotional identification, but reality is reality and all character concepts are mutable over time.
 
Fiddytree said:
If Krampus can be depicted as in league with Santa, while still doing very Krampus-like deeds, you've significantly changed his character from what most Americans would accept. Instead of merely giving the kids coal, he turns the kiddies over to Krampus so he can boil them, eat them, or make them work as slaves.

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WOW!!!

That was hard core!!!!
 
tacomancer said:
There is nothing special about the race of a fictional character it is a detail, just as are clothes, personality traits, or pretty much anything else. The desire to compare specific details is simply elevating on detail over another.

In reality both characters are tools used for branding and economic purposes to enrich their creator and are a holistic whole for that purpose. Like any brand they are adjusted over time as is needed as the audience changes.

You can pretend it's not the same all you wish to sadly hold on to some silly emotional identification, but reality is reality and all character concepts are mutable over time.
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Wrong.
 
Excon said:
We already did. He objectively isn't white, but Santa objectively is.
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The Jesus of life doesn't have to match the future cultural references and observances. He's a tool.
 
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