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Is Santa Claus White?

Is Santa Claus White?

  • Yes

    Votes: 10 55.6%
  • No

    Votes: 8 44.4%

  • Total voters
    18
He's whatever you want him to be, so he can mean all things to all people.
 
He is objectively white.

He's a tool to be used to spread Christianity and its morals to all people's of the world. Jesus's depiction has changed anywhere you put him, so as to enable other cultures to accept it.

Only an idiot would think that's a bad thing.
 
He's a tool to be used to spread Christianity and its morals to all people's of the world. Jesus's depiction has changed anywhere you put him, so as to enable other cultures to accept it.

Only an idiot would think that's a bad thing.
Oy vey!
Not the same argument.
The same argument would be that Jesus isn't white, which is correct.

Objectively Santa is white. By creation and by representation of Saint Nicholas a Greek.



Or are you saying that a white man can't be used to spread Christianity and it's morals (or lack there of) to all peoples?
 
Your pathetic and asinine deflection is noted.

How would you define "white"? Most Americans in the late 19th and the early 20th century considered only Protestant Northern Europeans such as the English and Germans as "white" while the Irish, Italians, Greeks, and such were considered not "white". I also doubt that a Greek born in Turkey would be considered "white" even by modern standards.
 
Oy vey!
Not the same argument.
The same argument would be that Jesus isn't white, which is correct.

Objectively Santa is white. By creation and by representation of Saint Nicholas a Greek.



Or are you saying that a white man can't be used to spread Christianity and it's morals (or lack there of) to all peoples?

Does Mickey Mouse wear gloves?

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How would you define "white"? Most Americans in the late 19th and the early 20th century considered only Protestant Northern Europeans such as the English and Germans as "white" while the Irish, Italians, Greeks, and such were considered not "white". I also doubt that a Greek born in Turkey would be considered "white" even by modern standards.

I thought all white folks looked the same!! :lamo

Just kidding.

Seriously, I didn't know that. That is interesting. Can you back that up with a reference? That's the first time I heard that.
 
I thought all white folks looked the same!! :lamo

Just kidding.

Seriously, I didn't know that. That is interesting. Can you back that up with a reference? That's the first time I heard that.

There's quite a lot of material on it. If you read articles, watch vids, and other such material from that time it's quite obvious. Of course it differed between regions, people, and social classes but the fact is that there's no "objectively" white as he claims. The concepts of race has changed over centuries and is still changing now.
 
Does Mickey Mouse wear gloves?

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Irrelevant.

And the appropriate question would be is Micky a black mouse?
Of which the answer is yes.
 
Irrelevant.

And the appropriate question would be is Micky a black mouse?
Of which the answer is yes.

Completely relevant. Your argument is that because the initial concept of Santa is white then Santa must be white. In other words the original set of details of a fictional concept sets the benchmark for it.

The initial concept of Mickey Mouse is without gloves. Does Mickey Mouse wear gloves?
 
There's quite a lot of material on it. If you read articles, watch vids, and other such material from that time it's quite obvious. Of course it differed between regions, people, and social classes but the fact is that there's no "objectively" white as he claims. The concepts of race has changed over centuries and is still changing now.

That actually is a good question. What is it exactly that determines a person's race? Is it a physical thing or a purely mental construct?
 
They would be misrepresenting your initial concept but not the character itself. They Re not the same thing.

The initial concept was most likely thrown away if it was me. :lol: However, if I release the character looking a certain way that is how the character looks and while you can change his outfit, everything else about him should stay the same including his face, hair, race, sex, and other physical characters as they are who that character is and it should not be altered in any way from how I put it out or you are making your own character on top of mine and misrepresenting my creation.
 
Completely relevant. Your argument is that because the initial concept of Santa is white then Santa must be white. In other words the original set of details of a fictional concept sets the benchmark for it.

The initial concept of Mickey Mouse is without gloves. Does Mickey Mouse wear gloves?
Wrong. Completely irrelevant as santa also has various orders of dress.

And the appropriate question would be is Micky a black mouse?
Of which the answer is yes.
 
The initial concept was most likely thrown away if it was me. :lol: However, if I release the character looking a certain way that is how the character looks and while you can change his outfit, everything else about him should stay the same including his face, hair, race, sex, and other physical characters as they are who that character is and it should not be altered in any way from how I put it out or you are making your own character on top of mine and misrepresenting my creation.

I will ask you the same question I am asking Exxon. Does Mickey Mouse wear gloves?

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