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Who Is More Afraid? The One Who Feels He Needs a Gun? Or the One Who Doesn't?

Who is more afraid? The one who feels he needs a gun, or the one who doesn't?


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So you can think of no rational reason why normal people would have a fear of guns?

sure, if you engage in activities that would cause normal people to shoot you, I can see such a person having a fear of guns
 
Regardless of how you chose to rationalize his actions or excuse his actions - he supported legislation which you loathe and oppose. And he was a Republican. That is simply reality and historical fact.

what legislation did he support while in office?
 
So outside of the limits of ever expanding technology and the ability of one to purchase or obtain ever more powerful weaponry - you see no reason to limit weaponry in our society?

if civilian law enforcement agencies have it, then other citizens should have it
after all police officers are not engaged in military operations against military targets but rather are limited to using weapons for self defense-just like you and I are
 
those who want to ban peaceful citizens owning guns are the ones who are afraid. that is beyond any dispute

afraid of what specifically?

Is their so called FEAR any different than the fear that motivates some gun owners to buy guns in the first place?

Is their so called FEAR any different that the fear the far right has of an oppressive government about to ship them into camps and take away all their rights and property motivating them to purchase weapons?

Fear is Fear Turtle - almost nobody is free from it nor does any group have the market cornered on it.
 
I would speculate that if baseball bats were the number one weapon of choice in murders each year that yes indeed people would fear them. What right do you have to pass judgment upon what people fear and what they should not fear? The fact that you take this tact tells me volumes about your ostrich like head-in-the-sand denial of basic reality on this issue.

Same right as many people have for calling me "bigot, gun nut, redneck, homophobe" and the sort.
 
if civilian law enforcement agencies have it, then other citizens should have it
after all police officers are not engaged in military operations against military targets but rather are limited to using weapons for self defense-just like you and I are

Yes, I know you believe that but there is no logical reason to make that connection as a matter of public policy.
 
Same right as many people have for calling me "bigot, gun nut, redneck, homophobe" and the sort.

And that is the position you really want to take? :doh:shock: You have a right to pass judgment upon what fears a person can have because others call you names? :roll:

Amazing!!!! :lamo
 
The question's easy - there's many people out there who feel that they need a gun (or guns), usually for self-defense, but sometimes because they believe the government just might come knocking to confiscate their guns.

On the other hand, there's people out there (like myself) who simply don't want a gun, who doesn't have a need for one.

So who, really, is the one who's more afraid? The one who feels he needs a gun for self-defense, or the one who doesn't feel he needs a gun for self-defense?

When the time comes you really need a gun nothing else will do. The same goes for insurance. Damn near everyone has insurance. Everyone hopes they'll never need it.

When your safety has been violated, when you have been harmed, when you are threatened with extreme violence the first person you call for support and protection has a gun.
 
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afraid of what specifically?

Is their so called FEAR any different than the fear that motivates some gun owners to buy guns in the first place?

Is their so called FEAR any different that the fear the far right has of an oppressive government about to ship them into camps and take away all their rights and property motivating them to purchase weapons?

Fear is Fear Turtle - almost nobody is free from it nor does any group have the market cornered on it.

I think for those who are operatives of the DNC, the main fear is the political reality that groups like the NRA tend to support the GOP.
 
those who want to ban peaceful citizens owning guns are the ones who are afraid. that is beyond any dispute

Where did I say the word "ban"? Seems to me someone up there is so afraid that they are seeing words that were never written :roll:
 
Yes, I know you believe that but there is no logical reason to make that connection as a matter of public policy.

That assumes one is clueless about the purpose and intent of the 2A and the Heller decision. it also is a bright line test that allows an objective standard rather than the dishonest excrement Democrats spew like 7 round limits which are based on nothing more than a number an asshole named Cuomo pulled out his ass
 
And that is the position you really want to take? :doh:shock: You have a right to pass judgment upon what fears a person can have because others call you names? :roll:

Amazing!!!! :lamo

We all pass judgment. It part of being human.
 
Where did I say the word "ban"? Seems to me someone up there is so afraid that they are seeing words that were never written :roll:

as I have noted, most people who support additional restrictions that only apply to those of us who can legally own guns, won't tell us their ultimate goals

but when you see someone claiming honest citizens should not be able to own say a 20 round magazine or a legal machine gun, that person has pretty much adopted the gun banner mindset
 
I think for those who are operatives of the DNC, the main fear is the political reality that groups like the NRA tend to support the GOP.

Yes, that is what you think and you have a right to think it but it is irrelevant to the topic being discussed. It is also something that can never ever be proven so is rather pointless to keep claiming as it leads the discussion nowhere.
 
We all pass judgment. It part of being human.

Passing judgment upon the behavior of others is indeed common. Passing judgment on what fear a person may have is playing god and the height of arrogance.
 
That assumes one is clueless about the purpose and intent of the 2A and the Heller decision. it also is a bright line test that allows an objective standard rather than the dishonest excrement Democrats spew like 7 round limits which are based on nothing more than a number an asshole named Cuomo pulled out his ass

I said no LOGICAL reason for you to make the connection.
 
And that is the position you really want to take? :doh:shock: You have a right to pass judgment upon what fears a person can have because others call you names? :roll:

Amazing!!!! :lamo

CC doesn't wish to limit YOUR rights. that's the big difference You have supported crap like registration (that requires people to take an affirmative and often costly action), and magazine limits. You have indicated that if the legislature banned all but a few types of guns, that would be proper as well
 
as I have noted, most people who support additional restrictions that only apply to those of us who can legally own guns, won't tell us their ultimate goals

but when you see someone claiming honest citizens should not be able to own say a 20 round magazine or a legal machine gun, that person has pretty much adopted the gun banner mindset
If you say so. :roll:
 
I said no LOGICAL reason for you to make the connection.

it is quite logical to establish a common sense line based on what the government considers suitable for civilian employees of a civilian agency to use in a civilian environment for self defense against the same criminals who prey on other civilians. It also is based on an estoppel argument
 
If you say so. :roll:

actually people like you say it loud and clear. when your arguments are evasive, contradictory and contrary to known reality a rational man assumes your real goals are gun bans
 
Passing judgment upon the behavior of others is indeed common. Passing judgment on what fear a person may have is playing god and the height of arrogance.
So I am arrogant? Big deal? What does that have to do with the OP?
 
CC doesn't wish to limit YOUR rights. that's the big difference You have supported crap like registration (that requires people to take an affirmative and often costly action), and magazine limits. You have indicated that if the legislature banned all but a few types of guns, that would be proper as well

And I would also not negate anyones rights.

So are you excusing his passing judgment upon the issue of what fears a person may have?
 
So I am arrogant? Big deal? What does that have to do with the OP?

The issue is that FEAR is widespread enough to be a strong motivator on all sides of this issue.
 
actually people like you say it loud and clear. when your arguments are evasive, contradictory and contrary to known reality a rational man assumes your real goals are gun bans

What does that mean "contrary to know reality"? What KNOWN REALITY are you speaking of that causes you to pass judgment about somebody and what they believe if it is not said?
 
actually people like you say it loud and clear. when your arguments are evasive, contradictory and contrary to known reality a rational man assumes your real goals are gun bans

Your imagination runs away from you a lot. For some reason, you are an all or nothing guy. There are degrees. Restrictions, checks and registrations are not bans.

I told you before, the world has choices beyond just 0 and 1.
 
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