• This is a political forum that is non-biased/non-partisan and treats every person's position on topics equally. This debate forum is not aligned to any political party. In today's politics, many ideas are split between and even within all the political parties. Often we find ourselves agreeing on one platform but some topics break our mold. We are here to discuss them in a civil political debate. If this is your first visit to our political forums, be sure to check out the RULES. Registering for debate politics is necessary before posting. Register today to participate - it's free!

Who Is More Afraid? The One Who Feels He Needs a Gun? Or the One Who Doesn't?

Who is more afraid? The one who feels he needs a gun, or the one who doesn't?


  • Total voters
    36
That is such bull****. Like people have to be responsible for other people's feelings now. "Oh, if one child is hit by a car, all cars should be banned!" Even that makes more sense since actual harm is caused.

And you may ignore it, but that's exactly what those ranchers believed they were doing (not the scofflaw). The 2A was created EXACTLY for that purpose. What do YOU think the purpose of the 2A is?

You asked for evidence and it was provided to you -- several times over. I could not care less what you do with it. Nor do I care what your claims about why the Second Amendment was created are either.
 
How do you think they become afraid? Are they born afraid? Of course not. Does actual contact with guns make them afraid? Nope, that's not the case either.

So the 2 main influences are parents and schools and schools have rabidly anti-gun policies. TV? I dont know, there's an awful lot of good guys on TV too that have guns. Lots of violent video games. Parents can control both of those too, btw.

So....do you have any theories on how kids become afraid of guns?

You have this annoying habit of repeating things that have already been answered and clarified. I have told you - at least twice now - that all of a persons experiences contribute to their emotional makeup.
 
That's the purpose of the Second Amendment Haymarket.

Thomas Jefferson Quotes :

>"The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government.

Was the government to prescribe to us our medicine and diet, our bodies would be in such keeping as our souls are now.

I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending too much liberty than to those attending too small a degree of it.

“Laws that forbid the carrying of arms...disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes... Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man.” (Quoting Cesare Beccaria)

The beauty of the Second Amendment is that it will not be needed until they try to take it.

The policy of the American government is to leave their citizens free, neither restraining nor aiding them in their pursuits.

No man has a natural right to commit aggression on the equal rights of another, and this is all from which the laws ought to restrain him.

To take from one because it is thought that his own industry and that of his father’s has acquired too much, in order to spare to others, who, or whose fathers, have not exercised equal industry and skill, is to violate arbitrarily the first principle of association—the guarantee to every one of a free exercise of his industry and the fruits acquired by it.

I think myself that we have more machinery of government than is necessary, too many parasites living on the labor of the industrious. (Back then!)

When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty.

I am not a friend to a very energetic government. It is always oppressive.

Shake off all the fears of servile prejudices, under which weak minds are servilely crouched. Fix reason firmly in her seat, and call on her tribunal for every fact, every opinion. Question with boldness even the existence of a God; because, if there be one, he must more approve of the homage of reason than that of blindfolded fear.

The god who gave us life, gave us liberty at the same time: the hand of force may destroy, but cannot disjoin them.

And the day will come, when the mystical generation of Jesus, by the Supreme Being as His Father, in the womb of a virgin, will be classed with the fable of the generation of Minerva, in the brain of Jupiter.

In matters of style, swim with the current;
In matters of principle, stand like a rock.

What country can preserve its liberties if its rulers are not warned from time to time that their people preserve the spirit of resistance?

The spirit of resistance to government is so valuable on certain occasions that I wish it to be always kept alive. It will often be exercised when wrong, but better so than not to be exercised at all.

The majority, oppressing an individual, is guilty of a crime, abuses its strength, and by acting on the law of the strongest breaks up the foundations of society.

When wrongs are pressed because it is believed they will be borne, resistance becomes morality.

Were we directed from Washington when to sow and when to reap, we should soon want bread.

The legitimate powers of government extend to such acts only as are injurious to others. But it does me no injury for my neighbor to say there are twenty gods, or no God. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg.

The price of freedom is eternal vigilance..."<

Continue -> The Greatest Thomas Jefferson quotes

The opinion of one man is irrelevant especially when that one many has a history of publicly lying in his statements.
 
You have this annoying habit of repeating things that have already been answered and clarified. I have told you - at least twice now - that all of a persons experiences contribute to their emotional makeup.

LOLOL

So people in decades just a few back had different emotional makeups and personal experiences? Kids growing up...completely different? Show me where anything kids are 'experiencing' outside of their family and school is teaching them to fear guns? Is it social media? Um, nope. Video games? Um, nope/ TV? That's been about the same for decades....lots of guns.

You have NO answer. You just dont like mine...the greatest influences on them are their parents and school. And the schools today DO teach them to fear guns and that guns are bad. That is undeniable.

So I feel like repeating it...yup. Esp. since I countered your silly social-worker speak.
 
You asked for evidence and it was provided to you -- several times over. I could not care less what you do with it. Nor do I care what your claims about why the Second Amendment was created are either.

Do you know what evidence is?

You didnt provide any such thing...and your claim that 'if even one person is intimidated...' is absurd. Nor can you defend it.

And I dont have to make claims about why the 2A was created...that's pretty well documented. I was trying to see if YOU understood it. You have demonstrated zero such knowlege.
 
The question's easy - there's many people out there who feel that they need a gun (or guns), usually for self-defense, but sometimes because they believe the government just might come knocking to confiscate their guns.

On the other hand, there's people out there (like myself) who simply don't want a gun, who doesn't have a need for one.

So who, really, is the one who's more afraid? The one who feels he needs a gun for self-defense, or the one who doesn't feel he needs a gun for self-defense?

That depends on the situation, walking down the street, I'm confident enough that I can take care of myself against most "average" people. However, when I lived in a s*** area, unbeknownst to my gf at the time, I always had a knife just in case. Not out of fear, but out of preparation for a worst case.

If ever someone is breaking down the Door to my house, I would be much more fearful without the gun.
 
LOLOL

So people in decades just a few back had different emotional makeups and personal experiences? Kids growing up...completely different? Show me where anything kids are 'experiencing' outside of their family and school is teaching them to fear guns? Is it social media? Um, nope. Video games? Um, nope/ TV? That's been about the same for decades....lots of guns.

You have NO answer. You just dont like mine...the greatest influences on them are their parents and school. And the schools today DO teach them to fear guns and that guns are bad. That is undeniable.

So I feel like repeating it...yup. Esp. since I countered your silly social-worker speak.

You are making no sense. You are pretending that one or two areas of life are the only determiners of a persons emotional make-up while ignoring all the others. That is simply pure nonsense and defies reality.
 
Do you know what evidence is?

You didnt provide any such thing...and your claim that 'if even one person is intimidated...' is absurd. Nor can you defend it.

And I dont have to make claims about why the 2A was created...that's pretty well documented. I was trying to see if YOU understood it. You have demonstrated zero such knowlege.

You were provided with it in several varied examples and forms. If you see fit to ignore it and play ostrich - that is on you.
 
You are making no sense. You are pretending that one or two areas of life are the only determiners of a persons emotional make-up while ignoring all the others. That is simply pure nonsense and defies reality.

And you still have no better answer than some random "oh kids fear guns because of their life experience and emotional makeup." Read it....you wrote it and it's a joke.

I put a genuine foundation under my claims. You should try it sometime...you offered ZERO to support yours, except for the meaningless socio-politico speak.
 
You were provided with it in several varied examples and forms. If you see fit to ignore it and play ostrich - that is on you.

And I shot down your examples, yet you keep saying.....'I gave you examples!'

Apparently they did not support your argument because you have resorted to just dropping the ball and claiming they worked. Claims dont make an argument. Neither does denial.

However posts like this one, that I quoted, give you the opportunity to add space and lose context and hope that your weak responses are forgotten.

You never supported your claim of 'oh if just one person is intimidated, open carrying should be illegal!' That was one good one.
 
Last edited:
And you still have no better answer than some random "oh kids fear guns because of their life experience and emotional makeup." Read it....you wrote it and it's a joke.

I put a genuine foundation under my claims. You should try it sometime...you offered ZERO to support yours, except for the meaningless socio-politico speak.

It matters not to me if you reject wisdom and instead prefer the grade school playground of personal attacks.
 
It matters not to me if you reject wisdom and instead prefer the grade school playground of personal attacks.

Again with denial and avoidance.

You provide no answers (definitely no wisdom...really? Goes to show how poor your grasp of reality is) and no support for your claims. Yet I did at every instance.

I attacked no one..that is just one more example of your inability to process what you read (or an outright lie...which is it?)

So no way to defend your arguments then? Ok, got it. You're done.

:2wave:
 
Last edited:
Perhaps you thought you tried.

You failed.

Well you never showed how I failed so again...denial is your only defense.

From your poorly supported rationale, my right to OC is not remotely in danger.
 
Who's boasting? Has it ever occurred to you that if someone says he doesn't need a gun, that maybe, just maybe he doesn't need it?

When you start talking about those that want guns being fearful and there you are... no want for a gun unafraid? Sounds like boasting to more than just me apparently.
 
but that assumes that people bearing guns are trying to intimidate those who are cowardly and afraid of armed citizens.

I reject your suggestion that merely bearing arms is designed to intimidate honest people.
large_0204068_2.jpg


So terrifying!

Gingers with gunz oh noes!
 
Back
Top Bottom