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Drug Legalization

Should drugs be legalized?

  • Yes- all drugs should be legalized.

    Votes: 24 49.0%

  • Yes/No- only some drugs (like pot) should be legalized

    Votes: 19 38.8%

  • No- keep all drugs illegal, continue the waaughh!

    Votes: 6 12.2%
  • Total voters
    49
Crovax said:
Still regurgitating the same old myths. Prohibition did work it was repealed because people wanted to drink. The only thing drug legalization is about is wanting to do drugs, nothing more.

Actually, Prohibition Was a Success - NYTimes.com

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/10/02/opinion/sunday/the-not-so-roaring-20s.html?_r=0
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Nah, I just want to tax the hell out of pot, I would never EVER want to legalize cocaine (it says legalize all drugs for an option which is dumb as **** in my opinion) or any other more dangerous substance, pot is sufficient enough. Let's give it a 30% tax on its total price. something insane so that we can profit like thieves :D
 
PoS said:
So here's what the drug war has cost us so far:

- Largest prison population in the world.

- Estimates that the Drug War has cost taxpayers from $1 Trillion so far (or around $100 Billion a year) and this is a conservative estimate.

- Cops have been militarized: every city and government agency (including the Dept of Education) now has a SWAT team equipped with military weapons and vehicles.

- Lots of innocent people have been killed (form drug gang shootouts to cops mistaking raiding the wrong house)

- Arrests and incarceration of large number of minorities (the black population has been absolutely devastated by arrests and busts)

- Strengthened organized crime (drug cartels control huge swaths of territory in Latin America) and caused massacres/high murder rates in other countries.

It only took 13 years for the older generation of politicians to repeal Prohibition when they realized that it wasnt working. Why are a huge number of politicians now still for the war even though its not working?
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My personal view would be that any drug that can be prescribed and regulated should also be legalized. Those that aren't prescribed for medical reasons, but for "entertainment" purposes should be appropriately taxed to cover the costs to society of regulating and dealing with those who abuse the system, similar to the legalization of gambling or tobacco products.

Many things in life are addictive - alcohol, tobacco, gambling, food, etc. yet very small percentages of the general population suffer from the addiction. Prescription drugs are no different and are likely the cause of far more harm to society than illegal drugs. I don't believe in penalizing the vast majority for the weaknesses or abuses of a marginal minority.
 
danielpalos said:
some people just sleep it off.
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And ive known several people who had bad anxiety episodes from smoking too much the first time.

I smoke every day. I advocate legalization.

But the poster i was responding to clearly overdosed.

Dispensary edibles. Happens all the time.

And pot IS a psychedelic. So hallucinatory visualizations aren't inconceivable.
 
Peter Grimm said:
The first time I ever got high, I was a teenager visiting a friend in BC Canada. Instant cartoons. I felt like I was in an episode of the surfs. I can remember how bugged out his eyes looked, like saucers. Like half the size of his head. Then I had a can of beans and I was convinced that the jolly green giant was real and coming for us.

Another time I got so high I thought a palm tree was a man with a giant 'fro. Then I wanted to start a war with Jamaica using only coconuts as ammo.

Things like that just don't happen with alcohol.
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I've heard of drunks seeing things when they try to STOP drinking. Delerium tremens.
 
What if...? said:
And ive known several people who had bad anxiety episodes from smoking too much the first time.

I smoke every day. I advocate legalization.

But the poster i was responding to clearly overdosed.

Dispensary edibles. Happens all the time.

And pot IS a psychedelic. So hallucinatory visualizations aren't inconceivable.
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it may be why it is sometimes useful to be euphoric when about one's chores.
 
What if...? said:
And ive known several people who had bad anxiety episodes from smoking too much the first time.

I smoke every day. I advocate legalization.

But the poster i was responding to clearly overdosed.

Dispensary edibles. Happens all the time.

And pot IS a psychedelic. So hallucinatory visualizations aren't inconceivable.
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I've never heard of anyone hallucinating from marijuana before. I would think that would be a more rare side effect. Or that must have been some good ****! :2razz:
 
ChrisL said:
I've never heard of anyone hallucinating from marijuana before. I would think that would be a more rare side effect. Or that must have been some good ****! :2razz:
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It's classified as a psychedelic. But hallucinations are rare.

The cartoon bit, being consistent across more than one experience, is probably due to some individual variance in brain structure/chemistry. Some are more susceptible to visual hallucination than others, and only some people see in 3D. Funny things, brains.

But you are here enough i don't have to tell you that!
 
What if...? said:
It's classified as a psychedelic. But hallucinations are rare.

The cartoon bit, being consistent across more than one experience, is probably due to some individual variance in brain structure/chemistry. Some are more susceptible to visual hallucination than others, and only some people see in 3D. Funny things, brains.

But you are here enough i don't have to tell you that!
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Sounds like his joint was laced with acid or something! :lol:
 
ChrisL said:
I've never heard of anyone hallucinating from marijuana before. I would think that would be a more rare side effect. Or that must have been some good ****! :2razz:
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I know that when I was a teenager some unscrupulous pot dealers would lace their cheap worthless dirt weed with formaldehyde or angel dust (PCP). It is dangerous and could cause hallucinations.
 
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ChrisL said:
OMG! Imagine if you ever dropped acid? You'd be screwed 6 ways from Sunday then. :lamo
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Haven't done acid.... yet. Not gonna lie, the thought has crossed my mind.

My brain could probably dream up some WILD ass trips, I'm positive of that.
 
Muhammed said:
I know that when I was a teenager some unscrupulous pot dealers would lace their cheap worthless dirt weed with formaldehyde or angel dust (PCP). It is dangerous and could cause hallucinations.
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Why would those dumbasses do that? Weed is cheap, angel dust is expensive. Throwing money away. Dumbass Mexican drug lords. Lol.
 
digsbe said:
Keep them illegal, just lower the penalties for non-violent possessors of illegal drugs for more minor things like pot.
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Im curious as to what your rationale behind this is since keeping them illegal clearly isnt working.
 
Peter Grimm said:
Why would those dumbasses do that?
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Profit.

Peter Grimm said:
Weed is cheap, angel dust is expensive.
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I've been out of the business for a long time, so I don't know about prices today, but I can tell you that PCP used to be very cheap. And a lot of the weed used to be brown dirt weed that wouldn't even get your cat high. You had to know the right people to get the good stuff.

Dealers would roll doobies out of crappy brown Mexican weed and dip them in liquid PCP and call it superweed.
 
I'm in favor of legalizing some of the less dangerous drugs (pot, LSD, psilocybin for example). Others should remain illegal. Though I do think enforcement should be focused more on manufacturers/dealers than users.
 
molten_dragon said:
I'm in favor of legalizing some of the less dangerous drugs (pot, LSD, psilocybin for example). Others should remain illegal. Though I do think enforcement should be focused more on manufacturers/dealers than users.
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But if the other drugs remain illegal then the drug war continues with no end in sight since demand and the black market will shift to those drugs.
 
PoS said:
But if the other drugs remain illegal then the drug war continues with no end in sight since demand and the black market will shift to those drugs.
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I don't necessarily agree with that. I think if people had legal means to get the high they want, they'd have less incentive to go after illegal means to get it.

And regardless, if the drugs are harmful enough, then I'm fine continuing to fight against them. And I believe some are that harmful.
 
molten_dragon said:
I don't necessarily agree with that. I think if people had legal means to get the high they want, they'd have less incentive to go after illegal means to get it.

And regardless, if the drugs are harmful enough, then I'm fine continuing to fight against them. And I believe some are that harmful.
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Well you'll be surprised at a new study that states alcohol is more harmful than all the drugs that are currently illegal:

Alcohol More Dangerous Than Heroin Or Cocaine, Study Finds

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PoS said:
a new study that states alcohol is more harmful than all the drugs that are currently illegal:
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Because alcohol is far more widely used than any of those other drugs, because it's legal and they aren't.
 
molten_dragon said:
Because alcohol is far more widely used than any of those other drugs, because it's legal and they aren't.
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And yet drug use declined in Portugal after they decriminalized all of it in 2001.
 
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