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Will Changing Voter Demographics Mean Increased Political Power For Blacks?

Will Changing Voter Demographics Mean Increased Political Power For Blacks?

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    Votes: 9 64.3%

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Supposedly the black population is growing at a faster rate than whites. Will this mean that blacks will have increased political power in the future? Or is access to the political power structure too controlled by those with wealth for an increasing number of black voters to have a meaningful influence?
 
Yes, more of the country will look like this.
 
Supposedly the black population is growing at a faster rate than whites. Will this mean that blacks will have increased political power in the future? Or is access to the political power structure too controlled by those with wealth for an increasing number of black voters to have a meaningful influence?
Blacks already have significant political power within the democratic party, look how well that has worked out for them. The mistake inherent in your question is that political power somehow equates to economic power. If blacks really wished to enhance their political power they would stop giving it so freely to one political party. As it stands now, the democrats take their votes for granted and the republicans don't court them because they know they wont get their votes.
 
Supposedly the black population is growing at a faster rate than whites. Will this mean that blacks will have increased political power in the future? Or is access to the political power structure too controlled by those with wealth for an increasing number of black voters to have a meaningful influence?

Irrelevent question. With the increasesd ability to travel anywhere in the world along with no stigma (law wise) of marrying interracially eventually there will be no blacks, no whites, no seperate races.
 
Supposedly the black population is growing at a faster rate than whites. Will this mean that blacks will have increased political power in the future? Or is access to the political power structure too controlled by those with wealth for an increasing number of black voters to have a meaningful influence?

I would be interested in knowing just how you expect an increase in black voters' meaningful influence would be game-changing, so to speak. What would they want to accomplish that they are unable to accomplish now? Are there black special interests that we need to be addressing?
 
Yes, more of the country will look like this.

That post was your natural reflexes. What it demonstrates is that this country still has a big race problem.
 
That post was your natural reflexes. What it demonstrates is that this country still has a big race problem.
Your natural reflex was to deny the truth and blame the destruction before your eyes on others.
 
Blacks already have significant political power within the democratic party, look how well that has worked out for them. The mistake inherent in your question is that political power somehow equates to economic power. If blacks really wished to enhance their political power they would stop giving it so freely to one political party. As it stands now, the democrats take their votes for granted and the republicans don't court them because they know they wont get their votes.

Those are some good observations. Having said that, the truth of the matter is that Republicans haven't given blacks a whole lot of reasons to vote for them. Their deliberate outreach to racist whites is troubling. The thing is this, I was so sick of Obama that I would have considered voting for them in the last presidential election if only they had a decent candidate, despite all that. The best thing they could come up with was Romney. Damn, I couldn't vote for them even if I wanted to.
 
Your natural reflex was to deny the truth and blame the destruction before your eyes on others.

Either you are out of your mind or just plain uninformed. Do you realize how all that happened?
 
Irrelevent question. With the increasesd ability to travel anywhere in the world along with no stigma (law wise) of marrying interracially eventually there will be no blacks, no whites, no seperate races.

Is that a good or bad thing to you?
 
Either you are out of your mind or just plain uninformed. Do you realize how all that happened?

Burning Down the House: Detroit

Coleman Young, Detroit's first Black mayor, presides over a city his people inherited from white flight and promptly destroyed through neglect, affirmative action, and a general inability to innovate or ability to maintain the city's infrastructure
 
Those are some good observations. Having said that, the truth of the matter is that Republicans haven't given blacks a whole lot of reasons to vote for them. Their deliberate outreach to racist whites is troubling. The thing is this, I was so sick of Obama that I would have considered voting for them in the last presidential election if only they had a decent candidate, despite all that. The best thing they could come up with was Romney. Damn, I couldn't vote for them even if I wanted to.
I don't blame you. Romney was hard to vote for and Im a white guy. But no, republicans haven't done a good job ever at wooing the black community. In fact they write them off completely. I think that's a huge mistake, but there hasn't been a coherent message from the right nor a competent messenger for some time. But there is no reason why the (supposed) message of the right that calls for individual liberty and limited government shouldn't appeal to black voters. The message just has to be taken to them. If a republican candidate showed some interest, he just might get some votes.
 
I would be interested in knowing just how you expect an increase in black voters' meaningful influence would be game-changing, so to speak. What would they want to accomplish that they are unable to accomplish now? Are there black special interests that we need to be addressing?

In my opinion, the number one issue for blacks is education. We need some serious educational reform to address the needs of blacks. The party that will seriously take up that issue, is the winner, at least to me.
 
In my opinion, the number one issue for blacks is education. We need some serious educational reform to address the needs of blacks. The party that will seriously take up that issue, is the winner, at least to me.

What do they not have access to in education, that everyone else has access to?
 
Burning Down the House: Detroit

Coleman Young, Detroit's first Black mayor, presides over a city his people inherited from white flight and promptly destroyed through neglect, affirmative action, and a general inability to innovate or ability to maintain the city's infrastructure

Do you know anything about the history of the auto industry in the US? Do you know anything about the oil supply shocks of the seventies? Do you know anything about the outsourcing of US manufacturing capability overseas?

People like you need blacks to use as toilet paper to wipe their own stinking butts.
 
What do they not have access to in education, that everyone else has access to?

The whole educational system needs reform. But over and above that, the historical legacy of slavery and the subsequent discrimination that blacks have faced has put them at a disadvantage.
 
The whole educational system needs reform. But over and above that, the historical legacy of slavery and the subsequent discrimination that blacks have faced has put them at a disadvantage.

You said they need access to better education. I will repeat my question. What do blacks not have access to in education, that the rest of us do have access to? If they aren't able to learn in the same educational system that others are, then what is the problem?
 
What do they not have access to in education, that everyone else has access to?

good schools

Most public schools in the USA are funded with property taxes. More prosperous school districts are well funded and poor school districts are under-funded. The most significant problem with under-funded schools is that they do not attract and/or retain good teachers. In addition, poor children are more likely to have emotional and mental health issues including PTSD, be poorly nourished, and did not get quality preschool or learning at home. The result is crowded, segregated classrooms filled with too many kids with behavioral issues and learning disabilities and an inexperienced or incompetent teacher trying to teach them with little parental assistance.
 
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Do you know anything about the history of the auto industry in the US? Do you know anything about the oil supply shocks of the seventies? Do you know anything about the outsourcing of US manufacturing capability overseas?

People like you need blacks to use as toilet paper to wipe their own stinking butts.
I don't need them to wipe my butt, maybe they could stick around and wipe their baby's butts.
CNN's Don Lemon says more than 72 percent of African-American births are out of wedlock | PolitiFact
 
You said they need access to better education. I will repeat my question. What do blacks not have access to in education, that the rest of us do have access to? If they aren't able to learn in the same educational system that others are, then what is the problem?

And I will repeat to you that the historical legacy of slavery and the subsequent discrimination that blacks have faced has left them with some serious disadvantages. Do you realize that right up until the mid to late 60s, blacks were victimized by a system that was deliberately set up to condition them to believe that they were less than whites? Not only that, but slavery ended in the south right as the industrial revolution was coming into full force. You had a group of people who had been conditioned to believe that they were inferior all of a sudden occupying these large urban areas without any education. They ended up in slums that became the ghettos of today. They passed down all of those scars to their descendants. Therefore, blacks need some special educational attention. Many times, such children don't have the luxury of having educated parents. Not only that, but if the parents are there, they can't afford the specialized tutoring that many upper middle class families can afford to send their children to. All of that needs to be addressed.
 
I don't need them to wipe my butt, maybe they could stick around and wipe their baby's butts.

I disagree. Because otherwise you would not have painted such a racist pictures. Not all blacks live in areas like that. Why don't you show some of the nice areas that blacks live in?
 
Irrelevent question. With the increasesd ability to travel anywhere in the world along with no stigma (law wise) of marrying interracially eventually there will be no blacks, no whites, no seperate races.

That might be now.

We're ALL Black According to Geneticists!


The jig is up. Thanks to the genetics revolution we now know that there is no such thing as race. The Human Genome Project (HGP) has determined unequivocally that there is the same amount of genetic variation among individuals within a so called racial group as there is between individuals in different racial groups. What that means is that there is no real genetic difference between blacks and whites or between whites and Asians or between any of the so called races.

Wonder why it's been so hush-hush? I mean, you would think this would be big news. Certainly on the order of Galileo stating that the Earth goes around the Sun and not vice versa. But you haven't heard it on NBC or read it in your local newspaper. It's more or less kept within the high brow community as if the common every day man in the street just couldn't take it. So you can read about it in the Atlantic Monthly or New York Times, but not your home town newspaper. And some professors on ivory tower college campuses are scrambling to prove it isn't so, just like there some who argue that Darwin was a fruitcake and evolution a stunt he pulled to grab the limelight.
 
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