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Is being racist a right?[W:343]

Is being racist a right


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I'm not the boycott type. I will buy your product if it is a good one no matter what your beliefs. I have even been known to watch George clueless movies because he is a good actor in good movies.

I thought you were one of the "Ban the Dixie Chicks" crowd?
 
All this media blitz on Bundy and The basketball guy has me wondering if we now have thought police in this country. I'm not racist myself but I don't see what the big deal is if you are. We have laws to protect people from racism so your opinion should be a right and you should not be punished for what you believe. IMO firing someone for being a racist is anti American and flies in the face of free speech.

Some of your posts may suggest otherwise. But you have the right to your opinion and I have the right to tell you it stinks. :)
 
All this media blitz on Bundy and The basketball guy has me wondering if we now have thought police in this country. I'm not racist myself but I don't see what the big deal is if you are. We have laws to protect people from racism so your opinion should be a right and you should not be punished for what you believe. IMO firing someone for being a racist is anti American and flies in the face of free speech.

Neither of these men are going to jail for their racism. If people want to say bad things about them or not do business with them because of their racism they have that right as well because, guess what, freedom of speech. So yeah, no one's speech is being violated, can we please move past this strawman?
 
IMO firing someone for being a racist is anti American and flies in the face of free speech.

So let me get this straight. The right thinks it's ok to fire people because they are gay, but not if they are racist?
 
Having one's own personal opinion is a right.

Expressing one's own personal opinion, IMO, is also a right.

Being free from consequences in a free market is not a right, though one *should* know better in today's society than to express statements that are obviously going to be unpopular.

Example: Regarding the current Donald Sterling affair. He has a right to his opinion. He has a right to express his opinion. Others have a right to verbalize their opinions of displeasure. Others have a right to express their displeasure in the forms of boycotts, etc. No problem. I stop short at calls for having his team taken from him... barring something in the NBA Constitution that says it can be done, which it is my understanding that there is no such provision.
 
Doesn't matter if you own the company of not, your actions/verbalization reflect on the company itself, and can become a liability to the company.

Not part of the OP, he can do what he wants. Its his company. Even if he loses the team, he makes millions because worse come to worse, the league will buy the team and pay him what its worth.
 
How come so many people think the First Amendment means there should be no social consequences for making ridiculous statements?

They don't, unless it's "their guy."
 
Absolutely people have a right to be racist, sexist, whatever. The government should have no more control over peoples' minds then over peoples' bodies.
 
Social consequences? You mean whining and crying.

Whatever you call it, there's no "right" involved. Though I think people who want to reinvent the term are more guilty of childish behaviour.
 
All this media blitz on Bundy and The basketball guy has me wondering if we now have thought police in this country. I'm not racist myself but I don't see what the big deal is if you are. We have laws to protect people from racism so your opinion should be a right and you should not be punished for what you believe. IMO firing someone for being a racist is anti American and flies in the face of free speech.

The government did not punish him, so obviously there is no violation of free speech rights. Just because you are ignorant of the meaning of the term, that does not mean those reacting to him are anti-American. It just means you are ignorant.
 
But do they have a right to demand you lose your job due to your beliefs?

Who's losing their job? Bundy's still got his ranch, Sterling still owns the Clippers. Stop the histrionics.

In most other cases, employment is at will. If your racist activity becomes a detriment to the company you'll probably get fired anyway.
 
All this media blitz on Bundy and The basketball guy has me wondering if we now have thought police in this country. I'm not racist myself but I don't see what the big deal is if you are. We have laws to protect people from racism so your opinion should be a right and you should not be punished for what you believe. IMO firing someone for being a racist is anti American and flies in the face of free speech.

Thinking what you wish is a right, therefore being a racist is a right.

Acting upon your racist thoughts however, is not a right in every circumstance. For instance, you have the right to discriminate in your private life and associate with or not associate with whomever you wish.

You also have the right to free speech, so you can verbalize your racism if you wish. The general public however, has the right to either accept and approve of your speech or shun and ostracize you for your speech.

What you do not have the right to do, is to act on your racism in a form or format where you have control over others in a public forum. For instance, if you own a company, you do not have the right to discriminate against others in the name of and on behalf of the company.
 
Not part of the OP, he can do what he wants. Its his company. Even if he loses the team, he makes millions because worse come to worse, the league will buy the team and pay him what its worth.

And how many people will no longer support that team because of it? Less fan support or loss of sponsorship will devalue the team, making the buy price drop.
 
Nice blog refernece, Lybia could not effectively fire back, was very limited and led by NATO. Instead of throwing thousands of made up offenses at the wall to see if one sticks, pick one out and lets disuss it.
 
And how many people will no longer support that team because of it? Less fan support or loss of sponsorship will devalue the team, making the buy price drop.

Fan base does not value the team.
 
And how many people will no longer support that team because of it? Less fan support or loss of sponsorship will devalue the team, making the buy price drop.

Not likely. A team's value isn't based on fan support.

He'll lose some sponsors, and gain some.
 
You know, as not racist as conservatism is, it's interesting to watch conservatives run to the defense of racist a-holes. I actually DON'T think that 99% of conservatives are racist, it's just interesting how you guys pick poster boys that don't reflect your beliefs.
and then they wonder why blacks vote for the other party in disproportionate numbers
 
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