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Is There A War On Masculinity Going On In The United States?

Is there a war going on against masculinity in the United States?

  • Yes

    Votes: 24 42.9%
  • No

    Votes: 32 57.1%

  • Total voters
    56

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I was looking for some background information on another topic when I stumbled across a website. I thought it was very interesting. Here's the link

http://womenformen.org/mission/

Mission Statement

America is at war with masculinity. For years, prominent women in media and government have used their perch to belabor the false notion that women are in need of perpetual justice and focus. It’s actually males that need attention.

Women for Men (WFM) is committed to providing much-needed support for the American male who’s tired of being told there’s something fundamentally wrong with him—and mentally drained from being shafted in family courts and college tribunals, where men are assumed guilty until proven innocent. Decades of feminist propaganda have landed us in a place where women are hailed as heroes, and men are viewed as perpetrators—or just plain losers. That’s what WFM seeks to remedy.


The battle of the sexes will begin to erode only when America stops making men pay for the modern woman’s so-called oppression. If we do, marriages and relationships will improve—as will the health of the American family.

In the meantime, men are dropping out of college, out of the workforce, and out of marriage at alarming rates. Recognizing this, and understanding how it affects the well-being of women, children and families, is the first step. Too many people are afraid to disparage feminism because they think they’ll be labeled backward, rather than forward, thinking if they do. And you might be. But that doesn’t make it true.

“I used to consider myself a feminist but mistakenly thought feminism meant equality between the sexes. In today’s culture, it means female privilege, and I believe discrimination against men is every bit as bad as discrimination against women—and I want no part of it,” writes Dr. Helen Smith in Men on Strike.

That’s the attitude every woman should have.
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So what do you think? Is there a war going on against masculinity in the United States?
 
Sure there are certain women in the media who are biased and attack 'masculinity', but I wouldn't call it a war, or an epidemic, or anything of the sort.
 
Oh there is. Big time.

We're five years away from the straight white male getting pelted with rotten fruit when walking in public.
 
Unfortunately, everything masculine is being made synonymous with misogynistic, overly macho and ignorant.
 
Unfortunately, everything masculine is being made synonymous with misogynistic, overly macho and ignorant.

Do you have any opinions on why that is the case?
 
There is no "war" on masculinity as they describe it. What they appear to be describing is the development of non-traditional views on men and masculinity. The development of such views is not a "war" on masculinity so much as it is a "war" the types of masculinity that have historically harmed society and its members.

Related to this general notion of a "war on masculinity" is the fact that our white supremacist society has always and continues to wage "war" on black masculinity in addition to the masculinity of other groups of color including Asians and Middle Easterners. Black masculinity is consistently characterized as overly aggressive to the point of being animalistic in comparison to white masculinity (which is considered 'normal'). Asian masculinity is consistently characterized as meek and mild in comparison to white masculinity.
 
I was looking for some background information on another topic when I stumbled across a website. I thought it was very interesting. Here's the link

Mission Statement | Women for Men



So what do you think? Is there a war going on against masculinity in the United States?

If there is....I think I am winning.
 
Do you have any opinions on why that is the case?


I think it's because of the long history of males dominating the cultures of the world. While civilization was advancing beyond the stereotypical male/female roles in family and society, many men were suppressing any and all opposition to those standards.
 
Sure there are certain women in the media who are biased and attack 'masculinity', but I wouldn't call it a war, or an epidemic, or anything of the sort.

It is because they are jealous!
 
Sounds like the OP is reading too much of conspiracist Henry Makow (.com and savethemales.ca) who, among a myriad of other beauties, thinks there's a Lesbian/Marxist plot to take over the world.
 
On purpose, no. But the way that our education system is designed by women for the way that women learn, administrated largely by women, and then taught by women, has resulted in a system that systematically disadvantages boys.
 
I was looking for some background information on another topic when I stumbled across a website. I thought it was very interesting. Here's the link

Mission Statement | Women for Men



So what do you think? Is there a war going on against masculinity in the United States?

If there is....I think I am winning.
 
There is no "war" on masculinity as they describe it. What they appear to be describing is the development of non-traditional views on men and masculinity. The development of such views is not a "war" on masculinity so much as it is a "war" the types of masculinity that have historically harmed society and its members.

Related to this general notion of a "war on masculinity" is the fact that our white supremacist society has always and continues to wage "war" on black masculinity in addition to the masculinity of other groups of color including Asians and Middle Easterners. Black masculinity is consistently characterized as overly aggressive to the point of being animalistic in comparison to white masculinity (which is considered 'normal'). Asian masculinity is consistently characterized as meek and mild in comparison to white masculinity.

Nice red herring. You're talking subjective bullcrap about cultures. Legally, the war on masculinity is plain as day.
 
There is no "war" on masculinity as they describe it. What they appear to be describing is the development of non-traditional views on men and masculinity. The development of such views is not a "war" on masculinity so much as it is a "war" the types of masculinity that have historically harmed society and its members.

Related to this general notion of a "war on masculinity" is the fact that our white supremacist society has always and continues to wage "war" on black masculinity in addition to the masculinity of other groups of color including Asians and Middle Easterners. Black masculinity is consistently characterized as overly aggressive to the point of being animalistic in comparison to white masculinity (which is considered 'normal'). Asian masculinity is consistently characterized as meek and mild in comparison to white masculinity.

They why are they feminizing the men with chemicals?
using known estrogen mimickers such as BPA

Estrogen Mimickers in BPA Affects Neuro-Endocrine-Immune System Functioning | Holy Hormones Journal

What other products contain estrogen mimickers? Vinyl shower curtains, air fresheners, dryer sheets, perfumes, sunscreens, cleaning solutions, laundry detergent, cosmetics and shampoos and conditioners. Not to mention synthetic hormone birth control – or the hormones in our meats and milks.


Bisphenol A Mimics Estrogen, Phthalates Target Testosterone

NEW YORK, Feb. 5 -- Call these chemicals "his" and "her" endocrine disruptors.

Although they have been linked to reproductive problems in both sexes, bisphenol A (BPA) and phthalates -- common chemicals found in household plastics -- have gender-specific effects.

BPA mimics estrogen, while phthalates block testosterone action, Hugh S. Taylor, M.D., of Yale University, said at a press briefing.

"BPA looks like estrogen," Dr. Taylor, whose research focuses on uterine development and endocrine disruption, said of its chemical structure. "By itself it is a very weak estrogen."

The chemical stimulates uterine growth, he said, and animal studies have revealed other estrogen-like effects.

Mice that were exposed to BPA as fetuses developed abnormalities of the ovaries, uterus, and vagina, Dr. Taylor said. Other murine studies found genetic abnormalities in eggs, an increased risk of mammary cancers, and early puberty in females.


there is scientific proof they are in fact feminizing men if you think this is all done by accident you are mistaken.
 
I was looking for some background information on another topic when I stumbled across a website. I thought it was very interesting. Here's the link

Mission Statement | Women for Men



So what do you think? Is there a war going on against masculinity in the United States?

Unfortunately, everything masculine is being made synonymous with misogynistic, overly macho and ignorant.

It's not so much a war on masculinity, as a war on any and all recognition of the essential, divinely-engineered differences between male and female. We are turning into a society that discourages men from acting like men, and which equally discourages women from acting like women, trying to fit all into some unnatural androgynous mold.
 
No, there isn't. But there is a very correct movement to not define masculinity as being a macho ***hole. There is also the rejection of the position that essentially all good attributes are masculine, while all bad ones are feminine. Once you strip out the misogyny, it turns out that masculinity and femininity have very narrow meanings and not much context outside of specific courtship habits, and most (of not all) of the attributes historically associated with masculinity are simply the attributes of a good person. Courage, integrity, and fortitude spring to mind as obvious examples. Those are not the traits of good men, they are the traits of good people. The same with protecting and providing for one's family, service to one's country, creativity, intellect, and reason. All of these are considered traditionally masculine and that is obvious nonsense. Women have just as much cause to espouse and excel in those areas as men. As do people who do not fall within traditionally understood genders. Those are the traits of good people, not merely good men.
 
Sure there are certain women in the media who are biased and attack 'masculinity', but I wouldn't call it a war, or an epidemic, or anything of the sort.

Just as there are certain men in the media who are biased and attack 'femininity'. People act like the second anyone has a different opinion, there's a war going on. It's ridiculous.
 
It's not so much a war on masculinity, as a war on any and all recognition of the essential, divinely-engineered differences between male and female. We are turning into a society that discourages men from acting like men, and which equally discourages women from acting like women, trying to fit all into some unnatural androgynous mold.

There is a cultural shift towards, not only recognizing gender neutral but also demeaning certain masculine traits as negative. I find all the gender blending as part of the new accepted norms confusing.
 
Nice red herring. You're talking subjective bullcrap about cultures. Legally, the war on masculinity is plain as day.

There's merit to the culture distinctions.

That being said, I think there's portions here to be parsed out, acknowledged, but also limited.

We have to remember that legally and socially, men have had a great deal (many times more than equal power) in determining what is best for both men and women. Men have had a part in determining what is masculinity and what is contrasted to masculinity. Women have promoted it or bought into it over the generations, and much of what we have is as a result of that interplay. That a self-empowered women's movement can and has trumpeted the virtues of womanhood (in whatever way that is perceived) and spoken against what they saw as an overempowered masculinity (and those who see themselves defenders of masculinity would argue that masculinity itself is under attack) should not be denied. That being said, we have to recognize that much of it was a cumulative effect of men in power willfully participating in the process of defining what is legally and socially acceptable and what is not.
 
Do you have any opinions on why that is the case?

Because leftists tend to seek revenge, not equality. They want to get back at people who oppressed them instead of wanting equity from this point forward. Therefore, you've got radical feminists attacking men, they have no interest in being equal, they want to be better. They want a taste of being on top.
 
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If by masculinity, one means brawn over brains, the answer is no. Even butch lesbians recoil at the thought of being compared to a macho masculine manly man.
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They why are they feminizing the men with chemicals?
using known estrogen mimickers such as BPA

Estrogen Mimickers in BPA Affects Neuro-Endocrine-Immune System Functioning | Holy Hormones Journal

What other products contain estrogen mimickers? Vinyl shower curtains, air fresheners, dryer sheets, perfumes, sunscreens, cleaning solutions, laundry detergent, cosmetics and shampoos and conditioners. Not to mention synthetic hormone birth control – or the hormones in our meats and milks.


Bisphenol A Mimics Estrogen, Phthalates Target Testosterone

NEW YORK, Feb. 5 -- Call these chemicals "his" and "her" endocrine disruptors.

Although they have been linked to reproductive problems in both sexes, bisphenol A (BPA) and phthalates -- common chemicals found in household plastics -- have gender-specific effects.

BPA mimics estrogen, while phthalates block testosterone action, Hugh S. Taylor, M.D., of Yale University, said at a press briefing.

"BPA looks like estrogen," Dr. Taylor, whose research focuses on uterine development and endocrine disruption, said of its chemical structure. "By itself it is a very weak estrogen."

The chemical stimulates uterine growth, he said, and animal studies have revealed other estrogen-like effects.

Mice that were exposed to BPA as fetuses developed abnormalities of the ovaries, uterus, and vagina, Dr. Taylor said. Other murine studies found genetic abnormalities in eggs, an increased risk of mammary cancers, and early puberty in females.


there is scientific proof they are in fact feminizing men if you think this is all done by accident you are mistaken.

They're not trying to feminize men, they're poisoning all of us it's not good for men or women. Did you read that article you posted, it suggested mammary cancers and genetic abnormalities in females. All that processed meat is horrible for you and it's usually the preservatives that are the problem. Go fresh and organic in food and other products and you should fair much better.
 
Is There A War On Masculinity Going On In The United States?

no

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Sounds like the OP is reading too much of conspiracist Henry Makow (.com and savethemales.ca) who, among a myriad of other beauties, thinks there's a Lesbian/Marxist plot to take over the world.

That sounds HOT.
 
No, there isn't. But there is a very correct movement to not define masculinity as being a macho ***hole. There is also the rejection of the position that essentially all good attributes are masculine, while all bad ones are feminine. Once you strip out the misogyny, it turns out that masculinity and femininity have very narrow meanings and not much context outside of specific courtship habits, and most (of not all) of the attributes historically associated with masculinity are simply the attributes of a good person. Courage, integrity, and fortitude spring to mind as obvious examples. Those are not the traits of good men, they are the traits of good people. The same with protecting and providing for one's family, service to one's country, creativity, intellect, and reason. All of these are considered traditionally masculine and that is obvious nonsense. Women have just as much cause to espouse and excel in those areas as men. As do people who do not fall within traditionally understood genders. Those are the traits of good people, not merely good men.

I want to give more than one "like" to this post. A lot more.
 
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