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In 2016, will you vote for your party no matter who is it's candidate?

In 2016, will you vote for your party no matter who is it's candidate?

  • Yes

    Votes: 4 10.8%

  • No

    Votes: 23 62.2%

  • Unsure

    Votes: 7 18.9%

  • No comment

    Votes: 3 8.1%
  • Total voters
    37
Perotista said:
When I went to work for Perot back in 1992 I started to feel the same way you do now. One of the reasons was that Perot told me to take a few steps back, put cotton in your ears to block out all the rhetoric, slogans, talking points etc. Then just watch how the two parties govern. I did that, I found out both parties govern just about the same. It is the noise they make, their rhetoric that is polar opposite, not the way they govern. Both govern in the business as usual mode.
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Exactly! When you look at what they do, not wht they say they're the Tweedledeeblicans and the Tweedledumocrats.

Since I live in California, i.e., Democratistan, it's already a given that our electoral votes will go to whoever the Democrats pick. Therefore, I'll most likely vote libertarian just as a protest once again, unless, of course, there is a scintilla of a chance that anyone but the Democrat will win, then, it will depend on who the candidates are.
 
DA60 said:
Show off.

:wink:
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:mrgreen: There are many advantages to living here, besides the obvious of no sales tax/no income tax.

Every 4 years it becomes a parade of POTUS wannabes. You can see them on the roads, in restaurants, in supermarkets, everywhere. You can go to any of their many events. It's an orgy of politicians both during the primary season and even for the general election.

Obama was very nice and cordial. Hillary was actually quite likeable. She has a very firm handshake and looks you right in the eye, and stays there. Biden is a jackass. Edwards was a jerk.

On the GOP side, most of them were also really enjoyable to be with. The only one I really didn't care for was Huckabee, who was way too folksy with me and didn't let me speak a damn word. Hunstman was just a really regular guy. Romney I met more than a few times and really liked. Perry was a little standoffish. Giuliani in '08 was a delight, as was Thompson.
 
tres borrachos said:
:mrgreen: There are many advantages to living here, besides the obvious of no sales tax/no income tax.

Every 4 years it becomes a parade of POTUS wannabes. You can see them on the roads, in restaurants, in supermarkets, everywhere. You can go to any of their many events. It's an orgy of politicians both during the primary season and even for the general election.

Obama was very nice and cordial. Hillary was actually quite likeable. She has a very firm handshake and looks you right in the eye, and stays there. Biden is a jackass. Edwards was a jerk.

On the GOP side, most of them were also really enjoyable to be with. The only one I really didn't care for was Huckabee, who was way too folksy with me and didn't let me speak a damn word. Hunstman was just a really regular guy. Romney I met more than a few times and really liked. Perry was a little standoffish. Giuliani in '08 was a delight, as was Thompson.
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Speaking of Perry.....he is going to throw his Hat into the Ring. Which I don't think is a good thing. Just more division at a time when we don't need it. This country cant afford another Democrat in for another 4-8 years.

Be nice if there was an Independent that could take it.....but since that aint going to happen. We have no choice but to go with the Lesser of two evils. As no vote is a win for the Democrat. Remember Division is their only means to win.
 
MMC said:
Speaking of Perry.....he is going to throw his Hat into the Ring. Which I don't think is a good thing. Just more division at a time when we don't need it. This country cant afford another Democrat in for another 4-8 years.

Be nice if there was an Independent that could take it.....but since that aint going to happen. We have no choice but to go with the Lesser of two evils. As no vote is a win for the Democrat. Remember Division is their only means to win.
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I'm willing to give Perry another look when he sets up shop here. I never gave him serious thought in 2012 but will see what he has now.

If the Dem candidates are either Biden or Clinton, I will have no choice but to vote for the alternative GOP candidate. My bigger worry is always which GOPer I vote for in the primaries, which is the only time I always vote for the GOP POTUS candidates, or the GOP period.
 
MMC said:
Speaking of Perry.....he is going to throw his Hat into the Ring. Which I don't think is a good thing. Just more division at a time when we don't need it. This country cant afford another Democrat in for another 4-8 years.

Be nice if there was an Independent that could take it.....but since that aint going to happen. We have no choice but to go with the Lesser of two evils. As no vote is a win for the Democrat. Remember Division is their only means to win.
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Division and the Republicans' penchant for shooting themselves in the foot.
 
tres borrachos said:
:mrgreen: There are many advantages to living here, besides the obvious of no sales tax/no income tax.

Every 4 years it becomes a parade of POTUS wannabes. You can see them on the roads, in restaurants, in supermarkets, everywhere. You can go to any of their many events. It's an orgy of politicians both during the primary season and even for the general election.

Obama was very nice and cordial. Hillary was actually quite likeable. She has a very firm handshake and looks you right in the eye, and stays there. Biden is a jackass. Edwards was a jerk.

On the GOP side, most of them were also really enjoyable to be with. The only one I really didn't care for was Huckabee, who was way too folksy with me and didn't let me speak a damn word. Hunstman was just a really regular guy. Romney I met more than a few times and really liked. Perry was a little standoffish. Giuliani in '08 was a delight, as was Thompson.
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Interesting.

I have often said that I would like to have a beer with Obama...I just think he is a lousy POTUS.
 
MMC said:
Speaking of Perry.....he is going to throw his Hat into the Ring. Which I don't think is a good thing. Just more division at a time when we don't need it. This country cant afford another Democrat in for another 4-8 years.

Be nice if there was an Independent that could take it.....but since that aint going to happen. We have no choice but to go with the Lesser of two evils. As no vote is a win for the Democrat. Remember Division is their only means to win.
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Likely true....too bad the Republicans are pushing so many of us out the tent door.

I may not vote Dem......but I'm not voting for people that call me a liar either.
 
DA60 said:
For the record, I would not vote for either major party unless you put a gun to my head...though I did not always feel that way.
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I think an individual NO option or a none of the above line should be a part of every election. We are poorly served by the current system and the kissing of rings of major donors is not my perception of democracy.
 
MMC said:
I met him to Pero. He signed his book I had. United We Stand. He was Right about quite a few things.
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That he was. I wish he were about 20 years younger and rearing to give 2016 a shot.
 
DA60 said:
In 2016, will you vote for your party no matter who is it's candidate?
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No, I will not vote for Ted Cruz or Rick Perry. I also probably wouldn't vote for Rand Paul but that's still slightly up in the air. The only big x-factor to these conditions is if somehow Elizabeth Warren became the nominee. Other than that I'd probably vote for Hillary, Biden, or stay home.
 
The problem is, we're all too focused on the presidential election and forget that a lot of other people are running for election as well.

If we're happy with the work Congress has done, then by all means, let's re elect them. If not, then it's time to vote against all of the incumbents regardless of party.
 
I don't have a party. Yesterday I read or heard that just over 50% of Americans polled don't relate to either ruling party.
 
tecoyah said:
Likely true....too bad the Republicans are pushing so many of us out the tent door.

I may not vote Dem......but I'm not voting for people that call me a liar either.
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I can understand your thinking.....but like I have stated to many. Country first.....then the Repubs can take care of who is who in their Party. Anything else should be a second act.
 
DA60 said:
Interesting.

I have often said that I would like to have a beer with Obama...I just think he is a lousy POTUS.
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He really is a nice guy. I found him to be warm, and I actually saw him in 2 different settings. One was a speech/rally he gave. It was hard to focus on him with all of the zombies tossing their underwear at him like housewives at a Tom Jones concert. The second was in a very intimate setting with only about 40 of us there. He took questions, he asked our names and then responded with our names, which in my case he used again about 30 minutes after my first question. He made some good jokes which were unscripted and clever. He wasn't the personal monster some make him out to be. I detest his politics and I detest who he associates with, but I would have a cocktail with him any day.
 
DA60 said:
I'd say he is famous...especially if you are an American over 30.

Actually, Ron Paul made a big impression on me. He has been a beacon of rationality in a sea of irrationality. I am SO sorry he retired.

I don't agree with everything he says...but what he says seems so logical, politically brave, rational and unencumbered by partisan politics.
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yes, you hit the nail on the head. One doesn't have to agree with everything a candidate, an elected official or a political party says and does to be able to support or to have good vibes about them. The main problem I have with those on this site is they will automatically agree or disagree with any issue only because that is how their party or the other party comes down. It is sort of like they do not have a mind of their own.

I would love to see just once some of the diehard democrats disagree with something President Obama did or the same thing for the diehard Republicans, reap some praise on the man once in awhile. But I suspect that is too much to expect.
 
Dittohead not! said:
Exactly! When you look at what they do, not wht they say they're the Tweedledeeblicans and the Tweedledumocrats.

Since I live in California, i.e., Democratistan, it's already a given that our electoral votes will go to whoever the Democrats pick. Therefore, I'll most likely vote libertarian just as a protest once again, unless, of course, there is a scintilla of a chance that anyone but the Democrat will win, then, it will depend on who the candidates are.
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I hear you and agree. It is a shame that any presidential race basically comes down to 7 swing states with the other 43 pretty much decided. But I think with the right candidate, that candidate can change that. But perhaps I am dreaming.
 
Perotista said:
yes, you hit the nail on the head. One doesn't have to agree with everything a candidate, an elected official or a political party says and does to be able to support or to have good vibes about them. The main problem I have with those on this site is they will automatically agree or disagree with any issue only because that is how their party or the other party comes down. It is sort of like they do not have a mind of their own.

I would love to see just once some of the diehard democrats disagree with something President Obama did or the same thing for the diehard Republicans, reap some praise on the man once in awhile. But I suspect that is too much to expect.
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This is exactly why I started this poll...I wanted to see how many people were ridiculously partisan...vote for the party no matter who runs for it.

Less then 8% so far. I thought it would be much higher. Glad I was wrong (so far).
 
DA60 said:
In 2016, will you vote for your party no matter who is it's candidate?
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I vote issues, not parties. That means that I, like the overwhelming majority of Americans, vote for one of the two parties and the democratic party is much closer to my values than the republican party. So while I do not vote for a party, the odds of me voting republican are slim to none.
 
DA60 said:
This is exactly why I started this poll...I wanted to see how many people were ridiculously partisan...vote for the party no matter who runs for it.

Less then 8% so far. I thought it would be much higher. Glad I was wrong (so far).
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That is not really being "ridiculously partisan". One does not join a party because of the name, or based on who throws the best parties, but instead they join a party based on the ideals that party represents. So when a candidate is republican, that means that he or she falls within a certain range of values. Likewise a democratic candidate.
 
Perotista said:
yes, you hit the nail on the head. One doesn't have to agree with everything a candidate, an elected official or a political party says and does to be able to support or to have good vibes about them. The main problem I have with those on this site is they will automatically agree or disagree with any issue only because that is how their party or the other party comes down. It is sort of like they do not have a mind of their own.

I would love to see just once some of the diehard democrats disagree with something President Obama did or the same thing for the diehard Republicans, reap some praise on the man once in awhile. But I suspect that is too much to expect.
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Cmon Now Pero.....I have said. His golf game has gotten better. He doesn't double dribble as much when he is playing basketball.

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Oh.....and he still knows what looks Right. :2razz:.....:lol:
 
Redress said:
That is not really being "ridiculously partisan". One does not join a party because of the name, or based on who throws the best parties, but instead they join a party based on the ideals that party represents. So when a candidate is republican, that means that he or she falls within a certain range of values. Likewise a democratic candidate.
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Voting for a party, no matter who is it's candidate, is 'ridiculously partisan' to me.

You don't agree...fine.
 
Perotista said:
I hear you and agree. It is a shame that any presidential race basically comes down to 7 swing states with the other 43 pretty much decided. But I think with the right candidate, that candidate can change that. But perhaps I am dreaming.
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I'd like to think you're not, but I really think you are.
 
DA60 said:
This is exactly why I started this poll...I wanted to see how many people were ridiculously partisan...vote for the party no matter who runs for it.

Less then 8% so far. I thought it would be much higher. Glad I was wrong (so far).
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I think what people say in a poll like this and what people do at the ballot box can be two different things.
 
MMC said:
Cmon Now Pero.....I have said. His golf game has gotten better. He doesn't double dribble as much when he is playing basketball.

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Oh.....and he still knows what looks Right. :2razz:.....:lol:
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Yep, you have to hand it to him.
 
Dittohead not! said:
I'd like to think you're not, but I really think you are.
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I think a pre-bridgate Christie could have changed some of that. NJ probably would have gone for him, Penn, Conn, Del probably would have been put into play along with the 7 swing states. I really do not see anyone else at this moment that could do something like that. It seems like the parties have their trustworthy states in their column and the fight is over the 7 states again.
 
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