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Re: Which Is More Important? The Right to Discriminate, or Freedom from Discriminati
Yeah, how dare the American government take away that baker's right to refuse service to someone else just because that someone else had a lifestyle the baker didn't like! How dare the American government outlaw acts of prejudice and discrimination!
Yeah, how dare the American government pass standards for conduct of a business and somehow expect that the same laws should apply to everybody, instead of allowing certain businesses to say, "well, we don't want to follow that law because it's against our religion"...never mind that it's NOT part of that religion that the business owners must have that business. Of course, if I can't legally run a business without violating my religious beliefs (and I am very much a strong Christian), then I won't run that business - I'll find a different business to run.
Yeah, how dare people speak out against celebrities saying that Jim Crow wasn't so bad, that 'blacks were happier back then'! And how dare the networks react to the people speaking out against that radio show personality because they thought they might actually lose some business!
And how DARE the government target left-leaning groups for a longer period of time than it did right-leaning groups! The government should ONLY have targeted left-leaning groups, I guess.
Mm-hmm...yes, we all remember how those of differing viewpoints like "communist" and "socialist" and "Muslim" and "gay" and "lesbian" and "transsexual" and "HIV-positive" were SO WELCOMED back in the day, weren't they?
Yes, the emotional, physical, and economic retribution now is certainly worse than it was against blacks during Jim Crow, worse than it was against LGBT's before the 2000's, worse than it was against communists and socialists during the Cold War (particularly the McCarthy era), worse than it was against anyone who wasn't white since before the Declaration of Independence was signed...
...yeah, things are SO BAD, SO TERRIBLE for those on the Right - they're being SO PERSECUTED! They're the real victims, right?
I am old enough to remember that a baker was able to refuse to participate in an activity to which he did not approve without it becoming major headlines, the fodder of endless discussion, and a catalyst for angry protesters demanding justice.
Yeah, how dare the American government take away that baker's right to refuse service to someone else just because that someone else had a lifestyle the baker didn't like! How dare the American government outlaw acts of prejudice and discrimination!
I am old enough to remember when a businessman could express support for right to life or traditional marriage or a belief that men and women are physically and tempermentally different without some angry mob descending upon him demanding that he be punished for his views.
Yeah, how dare the American government pass standards for conduct of a business and somehow expect that the same laws should apply to everybody, instead of allowing certain businesses to say, "well, we don't want to follow that law because it's against our religion"...never mind that it's NOT part of that religion that the business owners must have that business. Of course, if I can't legally run a business without violating my religious beliefs (and I am very much a strong Christian), then I won't run that business - I'll find a different business to run.
I can remember when a reality show personality could express his religious beliefs when asked without organized powers demanding that he lose his position and livelihood. I can remember when people had a sense of decency and fair play and would not demand retribution be heaped on a television show host when it was revealed she had used a politically correct word many years before.
Yeah, how dare people speak out against celebrities saying that Jim Crow wasn't so bad, that 'blacks were happier back then'! And how dare the networks react to the people speaking out against that radio show personality because they thought they might actually lose some business!
I can remember when people with name recognition did not have to fear IRS audits or other 'unusual' investigations when they spoke out in protest of certain government officials or policies.
And how DARE the government target left-leaning groups for a longer period of time than it did right-leaning groups! The government should ONLY have targeted left-leaning groups, I guess.
I am old enough to remember when people of widely differing points of view were invited, welcomed, and treated with great respect on college campuses, but that was when students were taught to think critically and evaluate different points of view rather than being indoctrinated with one 'right' permissible point of view that is all that is allowed to be on campus.
Mm-hmm...yes, we all remember how those of differing viewpoints like "communist" and "socialist" and "Muslim" and "gay" and "lesbian" and "transsexual" and "HIV-positive" were SO WELCOMED back in the day, weren't they?
There is a difference between an assumed right to speak out, and being subjected to organized emotional, physical, and/or economic retribution if you do.
Yes, the emotional, physical, and economic retribution now is certainly worse than it was against blacks during Jim Crow, worse than it was against LGBT's before the 2000's, worse than it was against communists and socialists during the Cold War (particularly the McCarthy era), worse than it was against anyone who wasn't white since before the Declaration of Independence was signed...
...yeah, things are SO BAD, SO TERRIBLE for those on the Right - they're being SO PERSECUTED! They're the real victims, right?