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Should public employees be allowed to vote?

Should public employees be allowed to vote?


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Yeah. The truth is that they could be served corn flakes and they'd still be impressed. As long as there's at least two salad forks.

Oh indeed! :mrgreen:

BTW, I typed my post while eating scrambled eggs and toast off a stoneware plate - how gauche and tawdry can one get? :naughty: Coffee tastes vey good this morning, too! :thumbs:

Good morning, humbolt. :2wave:
 
Oh indeed! :mrgreen:

BTW, I typed my post while eating scrambled eggs and toast off a stoneware plate - how gauche and tawdry can one get? :naughty: Coffee tastes vey good this morning, too! :thumbs:

Good morning, humbolt. :2wave:

I had yogurt right out of the container. I'm a bum. After I get done at the shop today, I'll probably drink a cheap beer right out of a, gasp, can. As long as it's cold. I can't believe you used stoneware. That's just sooo stone age. I agree though. The coffee is great today. Finishing my last cup now. I was up at 5:30 today, but I'm slow to get working. Seems I'm a bum in every way except that I'm a clean one.
 
Assuming voting is fair and honest was mistake #1.
 
Yes because public employees are servants. Servants don't make demands. Servants serve. It's disgusting that government employees vote. They should be shot and hung (yes, both) for committing such a high crime.



Then it's fine. The ultimate authority is 'we the people'. The people are the boss. It is completely appropriate that they have a say in government.

I really don't see your logic. They are American Citizens guaranteed the right to vote by the Constitution. I don't see why the guy who delivers your mail shouldn't get the same vote you do.
 
I really don't see your logic. They are American Citizens guaranteed the right to vote by the Constitution. I don't see why the guy who delivers your mail shouldn't get the same vote you do.

They really aren't as arrogant as those fucking soldiers. Especially those god damned Marines.

Marines are entitled to $1,000,000 per year. The soldiers are entitled to at least $100,000. Wouldn't you agree? They are awesome.
 
Maybe the ballot should be part of the 1040 form, "no representation without taxation":mrgreen:
 
What kind of questin is that, to ask if a person that is employed by the government should get to vote. There is no reason for them to not be allowed to vote. If they could not vote their would be millions of people not allowed to vote. The public employes are above 18 and are not felons, so of course they have a right to vote.
 
What kind of questin is that, to ask if a person that is employed by the government should get to vote. There is no reason for them to not be allowed to vote. If they could not vote their would be millions of people not allowed to vote. The public employes are above 18 and are not felons, so of course they have a right to vote.

I never voted when I was a government employee because I thought it was morally wrong.

I think the OP meant legally. If so, I would change my vote to, Yes. The rules would be too complicated to ban government employees from voting.

Legally, yes they should be allowed to vote. Morally, no they absolutely should not. That is disgusting.
 
If the right wing gets their way - pubic employees, minorities and women will all be scrutinized and steps taken to minimize their vote for one simple reason ... they tend NOT to vote for candidates and issues the right wing supports.
 
Yes of course. They are citizens too. They deserve to have their votes counted.
 
Yeah they should, not arguing that, I'm just stating the law. Felons are barred from voting
Only in eight States.
felons-01_1.jpg



Most felons are not interested in the political process.

And while I agree that a full restoration of rights should be done upon release of State control over the individual, seeking and/or pandering to those who showed flawed thinking in committing a crime in the first place should be discouraged. And as far as I am concerned, shows the same flawed thinking process.
 
Should public employees be allowed to vote?

I sometimes ask myself this, and it seems so contrary to how things ought to be that I tend to dismiss it.

The question usually occurs when I encounter some event/story which highlights the potential and/or actual conflict of interest when employees or (in the case of public employee unions) groups of employees can elect their employers.


So I decided to put the question to you all: Should public employees be allowed to vote, and what rational supports your position?

Of course public employees should vote, they are citizens. However public employee unions should be banned as an unethical conflict of interest for politicians.
 
Should public employees be allowed to vote?

I sometimes ask myself this, and it seems so contrary to how things ought to be that I tend to dismiss it.

The question usually occurs when I encounter some event/story which highlights the potential and/or actual conflict of interest when employees or (in the case of public employee unions) groups of employees can elect their employers.


So I decided to put the question to you all: Should public employees be allowed to vote, and what rational supports your position?

They are citizens. Of course they should vote.:peace
 
Only in eight States.
felons-01_1.jpg



Most felons are not interested in the political process.

And while I agree that a full restoration of rights should be done upon release of State control over the individual, seeking and/or pandering to those who showed flawed thinking in committing a crime in the first place should be discouraged. And as far as I am concerned, shows the same flawed thinking process.

They show Iowa as "never". Felons can vote if they get individual permission from the Governor, and they must apply directly to the Governor. It is on a case-by-case basis. The Governor sets the criteria and it is subject to change upon change of Governor.

This is a current issue and has been on the news a lot in the past year or so.
 
They show Iowa as "never". Felons can vote if they get individual permission from the Governor, and they must apply directly to the Governor. It is on a case-by-case basis. The Governor sets the criteria and it is subject to change upon change of Governor.

This is a current issue and has been on the news a lot in the past year or so.

Ok, sounds like never to me. :)

But really, Mother Jones got it wrong and by proxy, so did I for using it. My bad.
Oh well. I tried to use the latest chart I could find. That was from Feb of this year.
The Obama Administration Wants 6 Million Americans to Get Back Their Right to Vote. Here's How. | Mother Jones

Bothered to look further and found these.

Iowa - On Jan. 14, 2011, the Republican Governor of Iowa, Terry Branstad, issued executive order 70, rescinding a law allowing people convicted of a felony to automatically have their ability to vote restored after completing their sentences. The automatic voting restoration law had been instituted by former Democratic Governor Tom Vilsack's signing of executive order 42 in 2005. Felons in Iowa must now pay all outstanding monetary obligations to the court in addition to completing their sentence and period of parole or probation. People convicted of a felony may then apply for restoration of the ability to vote.
State Felon Voting Laws - Felon Voting - ProCon.org




Disenfranchisement
In the USA, every state with the exception of Maine and Vermont prohibits felons from voting while in prison.[1] Nine other states disenfranchise felons for various lengths of time following the completion of their probation or parole. However, the severity of each state's disenfranchisement varies.

Three states, Kentucky, Virginia, and Florida (Gov. Rick Scott reverted to the old policy in 2010 that had been changed by Gov. Charlie Crist), continue to impose a lifelong denial of the right to vote to all citizens with a felony record, in the absence of a restoration of civil rights by the Governor or, where allowed, state legislature.[1] Florida law is somewhat unique, in that the individual must be pardoned by the Governor and a majority of the publicly elected State Cabinet (with the Governor's vote being the tiebreaker, if necessary).
Loss of rights due to felony conviction - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 
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