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Which would you rather have?

Which would you rather have?

  • A) $30,000 income with $0.00 tax burden.

    Votes: 3 9.4%

  • B) $250,000 income with $125,000 tax burden.

    Votes: 29 90.6%
  • Total voters
    32
  • Poll closed .
Voting for this thread is finally closed and the winning answer is:

B) $250,000 income with a $125,000 tax burden.

It seems that most participants in this poll chose to have a better quality of life over the principle of being against excessively high taxes. There are three exceptions: those participants chose principle over selfish gain. Anybody who would sacrifice $95,000 for a higher ideal deserves an A+. Those who voted Option B in this poll but didn't make comments received a grade of B-. Keeping your mouth shut can sometimes save you a lot of trouble in life. Those who voted Option B in this poll but made comments made a C. I do admire your honesty but let's face it Option B was the easy answer. I can't give you extra credit for taking the easy way out. Those who commented in this thread but didn't vote will be receiving the grade of F and I will be guessing at what their answer would have been if they would have voted. I made many exceptions. There were some Libertarians and Conservatives who didn't vote. I gave them an incomplete and will be explaining the make up assignment a little bit later. These people will see an I beside their name. Wait patiently. Your grades will be posted within the hour.
 
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Agent J B-
Beaudreaux F, Option B
beefheart B-
Bigfoot88 C
CalGun B-
d0gbreath B-
DA60 C
digsbe F, Option B
Dragonfly B-
ecofarm A+
ernst barkmann I, make up assignment available
FederalRepublic F, Option B
Fiddytree B-
Gathomas88 C
Gipper I, make up assignment available
Goshin B-
Grand Mal A+
grip C
Jackson1050 C
jamesrage F, Option B
Kobie F, Option B
lizzie I, make up assignment available
Lord Tammerlain B-
Lovebug F, Option B
Lursa F, Option B
maquiscat I, make up assignment available
mpg B-
OnWisconsin C
pbrauer F, Option B
Pos I, make up assignment available
RiverDad I, make up assignment available
roguenuke B-
Sean.McDonnell B-
Shadow Serious I, make up assignment available
Slyhunter C
SouthernDemocrat B-
Starsandstripes C
Summerwind C
The Mark C
TheLastIndependent A+
Tim the plumber B-
truth_seeker B-
TurtleDude I, make up assignment available
USViking B-
vasuderatorrent C
Verax B-
vesper F, Option B
X Factor I, make up assignment available
Your Star B-
 
ernst barkmann
Gipper
lizzie
maquiscat
Pos
Shadow Serious
TurtleDude
RiverDad
X Factor

See me after class. You will have a chance to change your F into a C with the make up assignment.
 
vasuderatorrent said:
A) A $30,000 income with a $0.00 tax burden?

or

B) A $250,000 income with a $125,000 tax burden?

Why do you think your answer is the most advantageous for you?
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It appears to me that this is yet another thread which is a complete waste of time and will solve nothing.

What any of us would rather have as a tax burden really doesn't matter because the taxes that we have to pay are all written up in the U.S. Tax Code.

No one has to pay their taxes.

But those who don't sometimes wish that they had.

Not my problem.
 
I'd have to go with A) the bitterness I'd feel at having to cough up $125,000 would cause much stress and anger in my life and more than likely shorten it. :2razz:
 
vasuderatorrent said:
ernst barkmann
Gipper
lizzie
maquiscat
Pos
Shadow Serious
TurtleDude
RiverDad
X Factor

See me after class. You will have a chance to change your F into a C with the make up assignment.
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What are you talking about? I Kobiyashi Maru'd that thing so therefore I passed. I should get a commendation for original thinking too.
 
PoS said:
What are you talking about? I Kobiyashi Maru'd that thing so therefore I passed. I should get a commendation for original thinking too.
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I checked again. I didn't see your vote. The only people that made an A+ were the people that voted for Option A because they put principle ahead of themselves. They were willing to lose $95,000 to stand up for what they believe.

They weren't pretending to be a Libertarian. A true Libertarian would have voted Option A.
 
vasuderatorrent said:
I checked again. I didn't see your vote. The only people that made an A+ were the people that voted for Option A because they put principle ahead of themselves. They were willing to lose $95,000 to stand up for what they believe.

They weren't pretending to be a Libertarian. A true Libertarian would have voted Option A.
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More like a Trew Libertarian. There was no viable vote because there was no realistic options. You might have had a vote from me but you placed limits that removed any real world standing from the scenario. The simply fact that I would never be able to move my self up from the $30k level if I choose that path made it unrealistic. And that was just for starters.
 
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"Who are these lucky duckies? They are the beneficiaries of tax policies that have expanded the personal exemption and standard deduction and targeted certain voter groups by introducing a welter of tax credits for things like child care and education. When these escape hatches are figured against income, the result is either a zero liability or a liability that represents a tiny percentage of income......

Say a person earns $12,000. After subtracting the personal exemption, the standard deduction and assuming no tax credits, then applying the 10% rate of the lowest bracket, the person ends up paying a little less than 4% of income in taxes. It ain't peanuts, but not enough to get his or her blood boiling with tax rage."
The Non-Taxpaying Class: Those lucky duckies!” The Wall Street Journal 20 November 2002 as quoted by Wikipedia
 
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maquiscat said:
More like a Trew Libertarian. There was no viable vote because there was no realistic options. You might have had a vote from me but you placed limits that removed any real world standing from the scenario. The simply fact that I would never be able to move my self up from the $30k level if I choose that path made it unrealistic. And that was just for starters.
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the entire purpose of this moronic poll was to make a guy who doesn't achieve feel better by getting people to say they'd rather be screwed by a parasitic government than being a freeloader who doesn't pay for his citizenship costs
 
vasuderatorrent said:
Somethings go without saying. I know which one that you would prefer. ;) Don't worry. I won't tell. :ssst:
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Is this just a stupid argument used as a front to attack Libertarian ideology? Do you want 30K or 125K? I'll take 125K...OMG You're not a libertarian!!!!

No, someone just can do math. Jesus Christ, it's a two choice hypothetical, that's it. Any intricacies of debating income tax are not offered for this discussion, it's a simple "do you like more money or less" question. So sorry some people understand math, but you're little "I gotcha!" moment here is nothing but absurdity and ignorance. Try a better argument.
 
Ikari said:
Is this just a stupid argument used as a front to attack Libertarian ideology? Do you want 30K or 125K? I'll take 125K...OMG You're not a libertarian!!!!

No, someone just can do math. Jesus Christ, it's a two choice hypothetical, that's it. Any intricacies of debating income tax are not offered for this discussion, it's a simple "do you like more money or less" question. So sorry some people understand math, but you're little "I gotcha!" moment here is nothing but absurdity and ignorance. Try a better argument.
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Why do you think I asked him all those questions?
 
If everyone in the US would just pick B, the country would be so much better off.
 
vasuderatorrent said:
I checked again. I didn't see your vote. The only people that made an A+ were the people that voted for Option A because they put principle ahead of themselves. They were willing to lose $95,000 to stand up for what they believe.

They weren't pretending to be a Libertarian. A true Libertarian would have voted Option A.
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Read my reply again. Your poll was rigged so I went with C. Since C wasnt available I didnt vote.
 
PoS said:
I didnt vote.
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That is correct. Read the comments below:

vasuderatorrent said:
Those who commented in this thread but didn't vote will be receiving the grade of F and I will be guessing at what their answer would have been if they would have voted. I made many exceptions. There were some Libertarians and Conservatives who didn't vote. I gave them an incomplete and will be explaining the make up assignment a little bit later.
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I already said why I didnt vote. Rigged polls are rigged. :roll:
 
PoS said:
I already said why I didnt vote. Rigged polls are rigged. :roll:
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Option A implies that you live in a place where at least some people have a 0.00% tax rate.
Option B implies that you live in a place where at least some people have a 50.00% tax rate.
Option C is the real world and tax system that exists today.

Which world sounds the best?
 
vasuderatorrent said:
Option A implies that you live in a place where at least some people have a 0.00% tax rate.
Option B implies that you live in a place where at least some people have a 50.00% tax rate.
Option C is the real world and tax system that exists today.

Which world sounds the best?
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Options A and B also implied that you can never rise above your initial income level. Per your own words. So given that I will that the real world anyday, and work to improve the overall tax systems.
 
So is it me or did that "make-up work" thread disappear?
 
vasuderatorrent said:
Voting for this thread is finally closed and the winning answer is:

B) $250,000 income with a $125,000 tax burden.

It seems that most participants in this poll chose to have a better quality of life over the principle of being against excessively high taxes. There are three exceptions: those participants chose principle over selfish gain. Anybody who would sacrifice $95,000 for a higher ideal deserves an A+. Those who voted Option B in this poll but didn't make comments received a grade of B-. Keeping your mouth shut can sometimes save you a lot of trouble in life. Those who voted Option B in this poll but made comments made a C. I do admire your honesty but let's face it Option B was the easy answer. I can't give you extra credit for taking the easy way out. Those who commented in this thread but didn't vote will be receiving the grade of F and I will be guessing at what their answer would have been if they would have voted. I made many exceptions. There were some Libertarians and Conservatives who didn't vote. I gave them an incomplete and will be explaining the make up assignment a little bit later. These people will see an I beside their name. Wait patiently. Your grades will be posted within the hour.
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'Honey, kids...gather round...I have an announcement to make.

As I told your mother earlier today, I now bring home only $30,000 per year...instead of the $125,000 I used to bring home.

However, the great news is that I now do not pay any more taxes.

Isn't that fantastic?

Ummm...why are you all holding suitcases? And where is the furniture? And why is that well known divorce lawyer standing in our kitchen?'

Yup, you 'A plus' types can go and live in your little apartments with your cockroaches and your 'ideals'.

And I will take my 'C' (and my extra 95K) and live in a nice house with a swimming pool and a 'vette stingray in the driveway.
 
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This is kinda a dumb question though.

We all know (or should) that (barring nepotism or some such) earning $250k/year will be harder and more stressful than earning $30k/year.

It's the balance between how much effort is required and how much reward granted that determines where you're most comfortable.
 
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