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Which would you rather have?

Which would you rather have?

  • A) $30,000 income with $0.00 tax burden.

    Votes: 3 9.4%

  • B) $250,000 income with $125,000 tax burden.

    Votes: 29 90.6%
  • Total voters
    32
  • Poll closed .
Can someone check behind me? As far as I can tell these 12 people have been participating in the thread but haven't voted in the poll yet:

TurtleDude, lizzie, vesper, Kobie, ernst barkmann, Beaudreaux, RiverDad, digsbe, maquiscat, PoS, Gipper, pbrauer

Do you suspect that any of them will be voting later? If not, which way do you think they are most likely to vote?
 
vasuderatorrent said:
I know which one that you prefer. :ssst: but I won't tell anybody.

(everybody loves cold hard cash)
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When someone in this country is punished for taking advantages of all the opportunities provided them in this country and becoming successful and then is punished excessively through taxation for being successful, there is a something seriously wrong. For you to even come up with the scenario that you did proves you are part of the problem/
 
vesper said:
When someone in this country is punished for taking advantages of all the opportunities provided them in this country and becoming successful and then is punished excessively through taxation for being successful, there is a something seriously wrong. For you to even come up with the scenario that you did proves you are part of the problem/
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Please vote at your earliest convenience.
 
I don't vote in poison pill polls but B would make sense mathematically.
 
vasuderatorrent said:
A) A $30,000 income with a $0.00 tax burden?

or

B) A $250,000 income with a $125,000 tax burden?

Why do you think your answer is the most advantageous for you?
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That sort of depends on what the jobs are, where they're located, who they're working with/for, what it takes to be qualified for one vs the other, etc...

All else being equal (which is absurd), option B sounds better.
 
FederalRepublic said:
That sort of depends on what the jobs are, where they're located, who they're working with/for, what it takes to be qualified for one vs the other, etc...

All else being equal (which is absurd), option B sounds better.
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In scenario A the job is wonderful, easy, in the best location, working with the best people imaginable with no qualifications.

In scenario B the job is horrible, difficult, in the worst place, working with a**holes and jerks with no qualifications.

The first job is great. The second job sucks.
 
vasuderatorrent said:
In scenario A the job is wonderful, easy, in the best location, working with the best people imaginable with no qualifications.

In scenario B the job is horrible, difficult, in the worst place, working with a**holes and jerks with no qualifications.

The first job is great. The second job sucks.
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I might put up with scenario 'B' for awhile, but long-term I'd take the pay cut.
 
vasuderatorrent said:
You are free to use math to come up with an answer.
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Poll is kinda stupid though - obviously, of the two options, B grants the greatest money to the person.

Requires more knowledge and skill to earn the 250k, but...
 
The Mark said:
Does anyone who makes 30k not have a tax burden?
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If you are talking about federal income tax then yes. If you are talking about state taxes, sales taxes or property taxes then I am not sure.
 
Here's another question. You're making the $30,000 and even though you didn't pay taxes you still get a refund. Of course that has to come from somewhere so it comes from the people paying 30, 40 even 50 percent of their income in paying takes. Do you

a) resent and vilify them and say how unfair it is that they make more

Or

B) happily spend the money and maybe even work to position yourself to where you to could make a higher income
 
vasuderatorrent said:
Yes. I thought that was pretty clear.
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You were not very clear about anything. The only factors were the pay and the tax rate. Is the higher paying job something that I might object to? Do I have an opportunity to increase my income? Am I being given a special exemption to the tax/the same rate as everyone else, or is there a system that varies with income? Heck even where I live factors into the answer. Looking at just my first question (from my previous post), if I am not stuck at the one pay rate, but the tax rate remains consistent then I will gladly start at the 30K so that when I do work my way up to the 250K I have all of it.

vesper said:
If the shoe fits. What I find troubling are the number that voted to settle for half their pay to pay half in taxes. Obviously they do not make 125,000 and are willing to settle at an opportunity to do so even though they originally earned 250,000. How sad.
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Not really. If you have a chance to do better, it is not a sad thing to take it. Any sadness would come in the form of the price you had to pay in order to do so. If the work I do is worth 125K in the end I'm willing to work for the on paper pay rate of 500K. In the end we're not really getting paid our $10/hr or whatever it is we're getting paid. Look at your income and then minus your taxes. That is your true income, the one you hope to increase.

X Factor said:
Here's another question. You're making the $30,000 and even though you didn't pay taxes you still get a refund. Of course that has to come from somewhere so it comes from the people paying 30, 40 even 50 percent of their income in paying takes. Do you

a) resent and vilify them and say how unfair it is that they make more

Or

B) happily spend the money and maybe even work to position yourself to where you to could make a higher income
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Go on make your own poll thread and let's see where it goes.
 
What about hrs worked, expenses/COL etc. Also, you may do fine with 30 in some places, while 125 don't get you very far in others. Paying a hefty mortgage or living in a trailer park, kids going to college, combined income or personal income?
Too many questions need to be answered first.
 
Lovebug said:
What about hrs worked, expenses/COL etc. Also, you may do fine with 30 in some places, while 125 don't get you very far in others. Paying a hefty mortgage or living in a trailer park, kids going to college, combined income or personal income?
Too many questions need to be answered first.
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With the first one, imagine the best possible answers to the questions. With the second one, imagine the worst possible answers to your questions.
 
X Factor said:
Here's another question. You're making the $30,000 and even though you didn't pay taxes you still get a refund. Of course that has to come from somewhere so it comes from the people paying 30, 40 even 50 percent of their income in paying takes. Do you

a) resent and vilify them and say how unfair it is that they make more

Or

B) happily spend the money and maybe even work to position yourself to where you to could make a higher income
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I would say B.
 
maquiscat said:
Is the higher paying job something that I might object to?
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No

maquiscat said:
Do I have an opportunity to increase my income?
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No

maquiscat said:
Am I being given a special exemption to the tax/the same rate as everyone else, or is there a system that varies with income?
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Your tax rate is 0.00% in scenario A. Your tax rate is 50.00% in scenario B. That was pretty clear.

maquiscat said:
I will gladly start at the 30K
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Sorry. I won't believe you until you vote option A. I doubt that you will. B is a much better option. 17 people agree but only 1 person disagrees. Of course the poll hasn't closed yet. There might be some more votes for option A. :roll:
 
At least two people have said that they would vote option B but haven't pulled the lever yet. They are probably waiting until the last day of the poll.
 
vasuderatorrent said:
Sorry. I won't believe you until you vote option A. I doubt that you will. B is a much better option. 17 people agree but only 1 person disagrees. Of course the poll hasn't closed yet. There might be some more votes for option A. :roll:
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Yeah nice editing of what I said. I said that under certain circumstances option A would be the more favorable. I find it very interesting that you keep changing the conditions to make option B more and more favorable.
 
Those that spend less of their income on survival needs need to pay more in taxes so those who barely survive can survive.
 
maquiscat said:
You were not very clear about anything. The only factors were the pay and the tax rate. Is the higher paying job something that I might object to? Do I have an opportunity to increase my income? Am I being given a special exemption to the tax/the same rate as everyone else, or is there a system that varies with income? Heck even where I live factors into the answer. Looking at just my first question (from my previous post), if I am not stuck at the one pay rate, but the tax rate remains consistent then I will gladly start at the 30K so that when I do work my way up to the 250K I have all of it.



Not really. If you have a chance to do better, it is not a sad thing to take it. Any sadness would come in the form of the price you had to pay in order to do so. If the work I do is worth 125K in the end I'm willing to work for the on paper pay rate of 500K. In the end we're not really getting paid our $10/hr or whatever it is we're getting paid. Look at your income and then minus your taxes. That is your true income, the one you hope to increase.



Go on make your own poll thread and let's see where it goes.
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Here is the unedited version. I still don't see your vote.
 
maquiscat said:
I find it very interesting that you keep changing the conditions to make option B more and more favorable.
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Can you give an example? Here is an example of the opposite of what you just said.

vasuderatorrent said:
In scenario A the job is wonderful, easy, in the best location, working with the best people imaginable with no qualifications.

In scenario B the job is horrible, difficult, in the worst place, working with a**holes and jerks with no qualifications.

The first job is great. The second job sucks.
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Slyhunter said:
Those that spend less of their income on survival needs need to pay more in taxes so those who barely survive can survive.
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Some people with extremely high incomes have it really, really bad. Some people with extremely low incomes are doing just fine and give their excess money away to needy family, friends, neighbors or even strangers.

Shouldn't everybody just pick their own tax rate depending on how desperate they feel about themselves?
 
vasuderatorrent said:
A) A $30,000 income with a $0.00 tax burden?

or

B) A $250,000 income with a $125,000 tax burden?

Why do you think your answer is the most advantageous for you?
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Two can play this game.

Which would you rather have?

A) A $30,000 income with a $0.00 tax burden?

or

B) A $4,000,000 income with a $3,000,000 tax burden?

Why do you think your answer is the most advantageous for you?
 
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