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Homeschooling


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Homeschooled children can see people from diverse backgrounds in the supermarket, on a sports team, on the television, in their church, at Boy Scouts......diversity is everywhere.

Unfortunately.
 
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. . but they really know how to tard up every forum thread about equal rights and science.

Excuse my limited vocabulary. "tard up" is new to me. By analyzing how the phrase is used within the context of the sentence I'm inferring that "tard up" must mean regularly defeat your position when you debate equal rights and science issues.

I can understand why you're butthurt when you run into these folks, it can't be a pleasant experience being humiliated in this way.
 
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Yeah!

Unfortunately!

Because we should all be forced to be white, Christian and conservative... That way we'd be free and not offend riverdads sensibilities!

I'm going to make a wild-assed guess here and claim that you don't live in a neighborhood with even 50% diversity. You have the entire world to choose from and there are places where you can find your glorious diversity, say something like 55% black, 35% Hispanic, 5% Hmong, and 5% white, and you could be uplifted by that glorious experience but you're choosing not to. So how diverse is your neighborhood (hey, this is the internet so I have no way of checking)?
 
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Excuse my limited vocabulary. "tard up" is new to me. By analyzing how the phrase is used within the context of the sentence I'm inferring that "tard up" must mean regularly defeat your position when you debate equal rights and science issues.

I can understand why you're butthurt when you run into these folks, it can't be a pleasant experience being humiliated in this way.

Well actually you've touched on quite possibly the most awesome thing about being home schooled (for the religious, ideological reasons I've mentioned before): being home schooled means never being wrong. Gays brought down the Roman Empire? Bam, it's true. There were no laws against rape, murder or theft before Christianity? True. Marriage isn't listed as a right in the constitution? True. Obama is a Muslim? True. When you're a home schooled Christian, you're always right, and you win every debate.
 
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Well actually you've touched on quite possibly the most awesome thing about being home schooled (for the religious, ideological reasons I've mentioned before): being home schooled means never being wrong. Gays brought down the Roman Empire? Bam, it's true. There were no laws against rape, murder or theft before Christianity? True. Marriage isn't listed as a right in the constitution? True. Obama is a Muslim? True. When you're a home schooled Christian, you're always right, and you win every debate.

you have anything to back this up with or is this just hyperbole? i will go with hyperbole.
all home school students are required to pass state exams in order to graduate as well.
 
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Well actually you've touched on quite possibly the most awesome thing about being home schooled (for the religious, ideological reasons I've mentioned before): being home schooled means never being wrong. Gays brought down the Roman Empire? Bam, it's true. There were no laws against rape, murder or theft before Christianity? True. Marriage isn't listed as a right in the constitution? True. When you're a home schooled Christian, you're always right, and you win every debate.

Do you seriously imagine that public school students learn the truth about reality? One easy example. Most people are public schooled. The proportion of homosexuals in the population is about 2%. Look at how people respond when asked to comment on the reality they see around them. Fully 50%+ believe that 1 in 5 people around them is homosexual.

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I'm going to make a wild-assed guess here and claim that you don't live in a neighborhood with even 50% diversity. You have the entire world to choose from and there are places where you can find your glorious diversity, say something like 55% black, 35% Hispanic, 5% Hmong, and 5% white, and you could be uplifted by that glorious experience but you're choosing not to. So how diverse is your neighborhood (hey, this is the internet so I have no way of checking)?

I don't have to answer to white nationalists like you.

I live in a really diverse town of 8000 people and my own home is half south African, half Japanese before I walk out the door.

You and your fascist ilk are becoming increasingly Irelevent much to my relief.
 
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If two adults are assumed to be able to have children without public approval, then it seems to me that they should be able to teach those children without public approval.
 
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Do you seriously imagine that public school students learn the truth about reality? One easy example. Most people are public schooled. The proportion of homosexuals in the population is about 2%. Look at how people respond when asked to comment on the reality they see around them. Fully 50%+ believe that 1 in 5 people around them is homosexual.

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Cute, but that completely evades my point, which is that no matter how factually and demonstrably wrong a homeschooler is they're still always right. When I believe something that was shown to be factually wrong, my response is invariably "...oh..." And that does tend to be the response of most public schooled people compared to homeschoolers.
 
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Cute, but that completely evades my point, which is that no matter how factually and demonstrably wrong a homeschooler is they're still always right. When I believe something that was shown to be factually wrong, my response is invariably "...oh..." And that does tend to be the response of most public schooled people compared to homeschoolers.

I just want to be sure that I understand your point. Are you seriously contending that YOU are representative of most of society. That when Jay Leno did those Jaywalking interviews, those people were like you. The mean IQ of the American population is 96. You are Joe Average?

If how YOU react to new information is dispositive, then why can't we pick a stellar home schooled student to be the go-to guy for home schooled comparisons?
 
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I just want to be sure that I understand your point. Are you seriously contending that YOU are representative of most of society. That when Jay Leno did those Jaywalking interviews, those people were like you. The mean IQ of the American population is 96. You are Joe Average?

If how YOU react to new information is dispositive, then why can't we pick a stellar home schooled student to be the go-to guy for home schooled comparisons?

Religious/ideological homeschoolers insist on believing demonstrably false things.
 
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Religious/ideological homeschoolers insist on believing demonstrably false things.

And ideologies in public schools insist on teaching false things. So we're at an impasse.
 
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And ideologies in public schools insist on teaching false things. So we're at an impasse.

Not with the deliberateness that homeschooling does. And here's the important thing: after I've been taught factually incorrect things, I'm still able to look back and say "Oh. Well that certainly turned out to be a load of crap, didn't it?" Homeschoolers consistently lack the self reflection and critical thinking skills to do this. They're taught solely to break down opposing beliefs, and reject that there's any reason or legitimacy to do the same for their own.
 
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Do you homeschool your children and do you think you think it's a viable option for other families?

I think it is a way for religious zealots to put that curse on their children. Never mind free choice.
 
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Not with the deliberateness that homeschooling does. And here's the important thing: after I've been taught factually incorrect things, I'm still able to look back and say "Oh. Well that certainly turned out to be a load of crap, didn't it?" Homeschoolers consistently lack the self reflection and critical thinking skills to do this. They're taught solely to break down opposing beliefs, and reject that there's any reason or legitimacy to do the same for their own.

You should probably step back and have a "come to Jesus moment" and assess your faith-based view and how it doesn't comport with what you just stated about how you modify your positions in light of new evidence. Over the course of a few of these home schooling threads people have provided you with evidence of how home schooled children intellectually out-perform public schooled children and you disregard that evidence and continue to cling to your faith-based viewpoint.

I understand that you have an emotional hate-on for home schooled children, particularly religious home schooled children, and that this hate is immune to reason, so why do you persist in having a false vision of who you are and how you conduct yourself. You've clearly demonstrated to all people in this thread that you don't actually modify your position when it is shown to be false and you do in fact vigorously cling to your preconceived notions. You're projecting onto home schooled children your own glaring intellectual failings.
 
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You should probably step back and have a "come to Jesus moment" and assess your faith-based view and how it doesn't comport with what you just stated about how you modify your positions in light of new evidence. Over the course of a few of these home schooling threads people have provided you with evidence of how home schooled children intellectually out-perform public schooled children and you disregard that evidence and continue to cling to your faith-based viewpoint.

I understand that you have an emotional hate-on for home schooled children, particularly religious home schooled children, and that this hate is immune to reason, so why do you persist in having a false vision of who you are and how you conduct yourself. You've clearly demonstrated to all people in this thread that you don't actually modify your position when it is shown to be false and you do in fact vigorously cling to your preconceived notions. You're projecting onto home schooled children your own glaring intellectual failings.

If you think I've denied what homeschooled kids are good at (religious/ideological or otherwise) then you need to re-read the thread.

I saw the words "hate-on" in the second paragraph and ignored everything after that, as I assume you meant for me to do.
 
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Not with the deliberateness that homeschooling does.

No, with the same deliberateness that homeschooling does.
 
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No, with the same deliberateness that homeschooling does.

Henrin...did you write that post all by yourself?
 
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Do you homeschool your children and do you think you think it's a viable option for other families?

if the teaching is good, so is the schooling (assumes one or more students ready and willing to learn are present)
if the teaching is poor, so is the schooling
the building in which it is conducted makes no difference

sponsored a vietnamese refugee family in '75
the dad, a civil engineer, and his wife, a teacher, home schooled their two children after public school was finished for the day
two-three hours each evening. more on weekends
both kids, preteens when they arrived, speaking only vietnamese and french, both got free rides to ivy league schools
suspect the same thing is happening in china, india, japan, south korea today
and applied this technique with my kids. it worked well

but to home school, the parents better have the ability, energy and willingness to make it work. too often they don't, and it doesn't
 
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Moderator's Warning:
Whoa! You all need to chill out! The baiting and personal comments stop here. Knock it off and return to strictly discussing the topic, not each other.
 
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Are you saying I didn't build that?

Sure, you could have, but if it hadn't been for Vauge who constructed the website and paid for the upkeep you would have had to find another way to do it. So I guess you could call it a community effort.
 
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