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Homeschooling


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Do you homeschool your children and do you think you think it's a viable option for other families?

We have one home-schooled member on this forum that's (mostly) the exception to everything I'm about to say.

Homeschooling is mostly for the benefit of preventing children from learning things like evolution or any associated "liberal" ideas. The only way to achieve this is, sadly, to permanently dismantle any ability to demonstrate critical thinking, one of the results of which is that logical fallacies are not only to be expected but celebrated. While such home schooled kids tend to be superior in reading, writing and arithmetic, their lack of critical thinking and hostility to science (particularly, scientific concepts deemed to be threatening to their faith) results in something that is a heartbeat away from child abuse, in my opinion. Their permanently misshapen brains make them unsuited to interacting with the world outside of their tiny, religious communities.

Oh, ask a home schooled person their thoughts on history, and you'll get all sorts of crap like, "Christians invented law" or "The gays brought down the Roman Empire." It's a hoot.

Many places to plug into this thread... the first and second posts seem the best to respond to....

Contrary to conventional wisdom, homeschooling is not some Nuevo, untested idea. In fact, until the industrial revolution of the late 18th / early 19th century, it was the normal way people were educated.

I am a strong Christian and we homeschool. We graduated our son from homeschooling in 2010. He was accepted, as the first homeschooler, to the Engineering Honor Program at the University of Colorado in Boulder. My daughter will enter her senior year in high school next year.

We did not home school for religious reasons and I firmly believe in evolution. We did not homeschool to "shelter" them from the world (and anyone that has read my posts would realize I am not trying to protect my kids from "liberal" ideas).

We started out the traditional way: our son went to various public and private schools through the first grade. He was exceptionally gifted. He had difficulty adjusting to the pace of a traditional school that went too slow and kept changing subjects on him... as a result, he would act out and become a behavior problem. The public and private schools wanted to address the issue with drugs. We chose to address issue by creating an educational environment that would allow him to pursue his interests at his pace. We tailored the other educational essentials around his passion. Mother and Father (me) were hands on in his education. We created a lot of educational opportunities around family; especially travel (combining history, culture, language and geography into experience and family time). For example, I took civics as my subject. I set a course syllabus that include a week long field trip (each) to Washington. It was a great time to bond, teach and create memories.

My son's homeschooling experience did not keep him out of a good school with a good educational opportunity. I expect my daughter will enjoy the same.

The cool part of home schooling is that we did not deal with traditional teenage rebellion. My kids generally enjoyed being around their parents through high school. Yes, the general "rap" on homeschooling is that the kids are socially retarded. I think people offer that objective largely out of ignorance. I think you will find most home school kids to be confident, polite and generally comfortable in their own skin. They were saved from the taunts, bullying and longing for acceptance that befalls far too many high schools during that awkward period of adolescence. Homeschool kids have plenty of social opportunities. In Colorado, every aspect of our local high school is open to our kids: they can attend any class; play on any team or join any club. We often joke with those that bring up this socialization aspect as that we acknowledged the problem and became proactive: we hired a kid to stop by the house and take our son into the bathroom to beat him up for his lunch money.... its amazing how many people instantly shut up with that quip. Sorry, this socialization objection is just ignorance....

Look, home schooling is not for everyone. There are some disadvantages. I think there are some things learned in public school that are worthy of learning: there are some personal accountability things that you learn there that are not as easy to teach in home school that I learned this by navigating a large high school and good sized college; we have (too much) coddled our kids in some areas where we should have taught self reliance (our bad). Homeschooling, however, while not for everyone, has been great for my family. I, for one, have just really enjoyed being actively involved in teaching my kids. I do think the things that we sheltered them from (like school shootings and pressures around sexuality/dating) have been good.


Plus you don't have to worry about your kids leaving you every day. With all the school shootings, I'm surprised more people don't home school. I'd love to home school both of my girls, but I am trying to do right by them and I want them to have this time to make friends, meet people and so on. I know that it can happen outside school, with home school functions, but unless something really bad happens, I don't want to take this away from them right now. Right now. ;) Homeschooling is always an option.

As to school shootings, our high school, Arapahoe High School, had a school shooting in December 2013. I learned about the shooting as it was in progress (before it was on the news and before we learned that "only" one person had been shot). The thought did not escape me that save for our decision to home school, my daughter would be there day and I would be panicked In fact, the one girl that was shot and killed was a very good friend of a girl that lives across the street.... my hair turned grayer that day.
 
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Ive permanently moved to a 3rd world country so I will be homeschooling my kid when he gets old enough- I just dont think their educational system is up to par here. At the same time I will be enrolling him in sports programs so at least he will be sociable with other kids his age. While Im an atheist he will be free to choose his own religion so that stuff is secondary to me.
 
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Ive permanently moved to a 3rd world country so I will be homeschooling my kid when he gets old enough- I just dont think their educational system is up to par here.

You moved to Los Angeles?
 
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Homeschooling is an option to make your child brainwashed with the realization to no new ideals until he/she "graduates" homeschooling
 
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Homeschooling is an option to make your child brainwashed with the realization to no new ideals until he/she "graduates" homeschooling
Yes, because Im sure you feel the socialist state is the only one who should brainwash children. :roll:

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The risk of home schooling I think is that it creates a good bubble untouched from the real outside influence. So no matter whether quality education went through it, no matter if they made the mistake of putting religion in education, there will always be a lack of an outside perspective. This may close minds at a young age.
 
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The risk of home schooling I think is that it creates a good bubble untouched from the real outside influence. So no matter whether quality education went through it, no matter if they made the mistake of putting religion in education, there will always be a lack of an outside perspective. This may close minds at a young age.

The same applies to a boilerplate public school where everything is, essentially, scripted.
 
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What "multiple perspectives" do you think they get in school versus homeschooling?

Cultural, status, ethnic, political, psychological, and various other perspectives issued from greater class number and diverse students per class.
 
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Cultural, status, ethnic, political, psychological, and various other perspectives issued from greater class number and diverse students per class.

Political is unacceptable in public schools.

I have 3 kids and they aren't interested in status.

Class number isn't relevant to their educations. Nor is ethnicity.
 
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Political is unacceptable in public schools.

I have 3 kids and they aren't interested in status.

Class number isn't relevant to their educations. Nor is ethnicity.

The multiple perspectives can be shared between peers as well as between educators and students. This is not something pertaining to what your kids are interested or not. And most educational time occurs outside of class in team based learning.
 
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The multiple perspectives can be shared between peers as well as between educators and students. This is not something pertaining to what your kids are interested or not. And most educational time occurs outside of class in team based learning.

Homeschooled children also have that out of class learning. And in my kids' schools, status is irrelevant. And the teachers are not to teach anything that isn't in the cirriculum. For instance, in school today, none of them are learning about Jesus, although it is Good Friday. And I am fine with that.
 
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I would not homeschool my child but I have no problem with it if you can provide a solid education for your child. If you don't know the answers to the questions you are asking, you should not be teaching it.
 
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Do you homeschool your children and do you think you think it's a viable option for other families?

No, we did not homeschool. After realizing how bad the public school system is we sent our 3rd child to private school. Best decision ever. It would depend on skills but for us working and earning money for private school was better than homeschooling.
When all is said and done, so little is learned in school and so much time is wasted on administrative and non-educational stuff.
 
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Homeschooled children also have that out of class learning. And in my kids' schools, status is irrelevant. And the teachers are not to teach anything that isn't in the cirriculum. For instance, in school today, none of them are learning about Jesus, although it is Good Friday. And I am fine with that.

Again this is not about you nor about your kids. Nor is it about individual status to begin with.

The issue is that multiple perspectives need to be shared in school. Some perspectives may come from various status positions that should be known and shared also.

Homeschooling has limited access to the access to multiple perspectives compared to schools. This is due to the greater number of diverse students that come in such schools.
 
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Again this is not about you nor about your kids. Nor is it about individual status to begin with.

The issue is that multiple perspectives need to be shared in school. Some perspectives may come from various status positions that should be known and shared also.

Homeschooling has limited access to the access to multiple perspectives compared to schools. This is due to the greater number of diverse students that come in such schools.

Of course it's about my kids. I have kids in public schools. I'm on topic in this thread.

When my kids are in school, they aren't supposed to be polling their schoolmates on issues.

When you say "diverse" what specifically are you referring to, and how do the homeschooled kids miss that diversity?
 
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Cultural, status, ethnic, political, psychological, and various other perspectives issued from greater class number and diverse students per class.

Rules of grammar, math, science, foreign language study, logic. What in the world does diversity have to do with these subjects?
 
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Of course it's about my kids. I have kids in public schools. I'm on topic in this thread.

When my kids are in school, they aren't supposed to be polling their schoolmates on issues.

When you say "diverse" what specifically are you referring to, and how do the homeschooled kids miss that diversity?

He's referring to the latest indoctrination in diversity. I think the implication is that your homeschooled children will be racist without the govt indoctrination program.
 
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Of course it's about my kids. I have kids in public schools. I'm on topic in this thread.

When my kids are in school, they aren't supposed to be polling their schoolmates on issues.

When you say "diverse" what specifically are you referring to, and how do the homeschooled kids miss that diversity?

Thanks.

I have nothing to gain in providing answers to you personally.
 
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Rules of grammar, math, science, foreign language study, logic. What in the world does diversity have to do with these subjects?

How does diversity has nothing to do with foreign language?
 
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I used to never really go for homeschooling, but as we now see what is going on in modern schools. I am all for it, to the point that we should close all public schools.
 
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The multiple perspectives can be shared between peers as well as between educators and students. This is not something pertaining to what your kids are interested or not. And most educational time occurs outside of class in team based learning.

I'm not exactly sure what "team-based" learning is, but I do know that homeschoolers play on soccer and Little League and bowling teams and swim and participate in all sorts of community activities such as theater, where they interact with their peers and others.

And I can also state that those who go to college are generally better prepared and years more mature than their peers. Also more able to stand on their own two feet and to respectfully challenge their professors and to make their way in the world.
 
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