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Do The Rich Pay Too Much Federal Income Taxes

Do The Rich Pay Too Much Income Taxes


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I've asked more than once on here why the people receiving food stamps, rent assistance, and other financial assistance from the government should not be expected to work off some of the benefits that they receive. I was told that it would be unfair and discriminatory to expect them to do that! Huh? President Roosevelt did it during the Great Depression, and the people not only loved him for it, but we are still enjoying the national parks and other work they did. Since Roosevelt was apparently wrong, in their opinion, I've stopped asking. I still think it was a great idea he had, though, since self esteem is so important when you are considered an asset to society, and not a drag on same, but what do I know? :lol:

Greetings, Vesper. :2wave:.

I am curious... why did you thank AlabamaPaul?
 
"Incapable of understanding your responses"? :lol:

Dude, you are pretty ****ing funny! :lol:

Did my break down help this time or do you need me to sound out the words for you now?

And the simple retort was that what other people earned never had any effect (scared me) on my life, but you tried to insinuate you never stated "scared". Man up Dick. Good night, and maybe I'll see you next month...
 
I'm confused - when did I thank him?

Greetings, Bodhisattva. :2wave:

Post #298 on page 30. No biggy... I was just curious since there wasn't much there. :)
 
And the simple retort was that what other people earned never had any effect (scared me) on my life, but you tried to insinuate you never stated "scared". Man up Dick. Good night, and maybe I'll see you next month...

No Internet Tough Guy :lol: ... you said that I said that people were scared of wealth. I didn't say that. I said that merely pointing out that there is an unfair gap is what scares people. You read it wrong. You are wrong. You wrongly are compounding your error too. It is only 2pm here but have a good night and hey, take the next year off while your at it. ;)
 
God no. Not even close. Hell i think we need more brackets for the rich.
 
Post #298 on page 30. No biggy... I was just curious since there wasn't much there. :)

I went back and read my post. I didn't thank him for anything - I gave him a like, because I also don't agree that rich people are always the villains they are currently being portrayed to be. Class envy is being encouraged today as part of some agenda to divide people, and that's not the right thing to do. Would you enjoy being reviled because a poor person didn't like the fact that you have more than they did? That is a rhetorical question, but I can't think you would.
 
I went back and read my post. I didn't thank him for anything - I gave him a like, because I also don't agree that rich people are always the villains they are currently being portrayed to be. Class envy is being encouraged today as part of some agenda to divide people, and that's not the right thing to do. Would you enjoy being reviled because a poor person didn't like the fact that you have more than they did? That is a rhetorical question, but I can't think you would.

I meant like. Sorry... all good. I agree that rich people are not villains.
 
Despite the fact that the top 10% of earners already pay over 70% of federal income taxes now?:peace

This are some of the lowest rates in history. But this also just shows the rising income inequality, and where most of the wealth is going to, the top. So to answer your question. Yes.
 
This are some of the lowest rates in history. But this also just shows the rising income inequality, and where most of the wealth is going to, the top. So to answer your question. Yes.

So . . . If 70% isn't enough for the top 10% to pay, how much should they pay?:peace
 
Individual tax rates? Or as a percentage of total taxes they pay?

the top 5% pay more of the federal income tax bill than the rest of the country combined. DO the top 5% use more than half of all the benefits and services funded by said taxes? if the answer is no (duh, that is obvious) then the top 5% pay too much taxes
 
the top 5% pay more of the federal income tax bill than the rest of the country combined. DO the top 5% use more than half of all the benefits and services funded by said taxes? if the answer is no (duh, that is obvious) then the top 5% pay too much taxes

As i realize and I as I stated earlier, this also just shows the rising income inequality, and where most of the wealth is going to, the top. So yes the rich should pay more taxes.
 
As i realize and I as I stated earlier, this also just shows the rising income inequality, and where most of the wealth is going to, the top. So yes the rich should pay more taxes.

so you think that the purpose of taxes is to prevent "inequality"

or to punish the winners when they win "too much
 
so you think that the purpose of taxes is to prevent "inequality"
Yes and no. The purpose of taxes is to fund the federal government. But taxes can be used to fight inequality. Is it the only tool needed to fight inequality? No. Its one of many.


or to punish the winners when they win "too much
"Punishing"? Na its not punishing them. Taxes are paid because you live in a civilized society and to used to fund a government.
 
Yes and no. The purpose of taxes is to fund the federal government. But taxes can be used to fight inequality. Is it the only tool needed to fight inequality? No. Its one of many.



"Punishing"? Na its not punishing them. Taxes are paid because you live in a civilized society and to used to fund a government.

that's crap. iF I have to pay 40% of my income to the government when most people pay less than 10% I am being punished because I am being treated unequally

the reason why the tax code costs us BILLIONS in compliance costs and time is because it has mutated into a tool congress uses for all sorts of extra and un constitutional powers
 
that's a moronic argument. are you saying the rich should pay more taxes to compensate for the market not valuing low skills work enough?

If "the market" was all that determined a person's pay, then America's pay scale would be just like that found in third-world nations - people getting paid less than three dollars a day for a full day's work.

Think about it, guy - is there ANYWHERE in the world, where there's a strong middle class getting paid good wages where there is not a significant minimum wage or - in the case of Germany - an effective minimum wage determined by the unions?

No. Not a single one.

So in every case that works like YOU think it should, the nation winds up being a third-world nation. Exactly how do you propose that such won't be the case this time?
 
If "the market" was all that determined a person's pay, then America's pay scale would be just like that found in third-world nations - people getting paid less than three dollars a day for a full day's work.

Think about it, guy - is there ANYWHERE in the world, where there's a strong middle class getting paid good wages where there is not a significant minimum wage or - in the case of Germany - an effective minimum wage determined by the unions?

No. Not a single one.

So in every case that works like YOU think it should, the nation winds up being a third-world nation. Exactly how do you propose that such won't be the case this time?

OH THE DRAMA.

its fun watching you claim the rich should pay more as some sort of formula so that the middle class wages go up

hint-that is a disconnect and stupid
 
that's crap. iF I have to pay 40% of my income to the government when most people pay less than 10% I am being punished because I am being treated unequally
Sure you are. As you should be. The economy is not equal.


the reason why the tax code costs us BILLIONS in compliance costs and time is because it has mutated into a tool congress uses for all sorts of extra and un constitutional powers
:roll: Look up taxing and spending clause.
 
Sure you are. As you should be. The economy is not equal.



:roll: Look up taxing and spending clause.


the government should treat people equally. you seem to be against that

its all about envy I suspect

and your moronic response based on the T&S clause is irrelevant
 
the government should treat people equally. you seem to be against that
When it comes to taxation. Absolutely. As they do with the rich they also do with the poor. We have a series of regressive taxes as well.


its all about envy I suspect
Envy it all you want.



and your moronic response based on the T&S clause is irrelevant
:lamo So "moronic" you couldnt even point out a single flaw the response.
 
When it comes to taxation. Absolutely. As they do with the rich they also do with the poor. We have a series of regressive taxes as well.



Envy it all you want.




:lamo So "moronic" you couldnt even point out a single flaw the response.

you don't understand all the extra constitutional powers congress grabbed by playing winners against losers with the tax schemes

and life is regressive

Too bad and the main reason for progressive income taxes is so the government can buy the support of people like you without making you pay the fair value of all the government goodies you want

if votes were proportionate to taxes, progressive tax schemes would be as scarce as rocking horse poop
 
you don't understand all the extra constitutional powers congress grabbed by playing winners against losers with the tax schemes
Even if your theory is considered valid, does not change the powers given to congress.


and life is regressive
Yea! So we should make everything regressive then!


Too bad and the main reason for progressive income taxes is so the government can buy the support of people like you without making you pay the fair value of all the government goodies you want
Heard this like a million times from you. But if this is true why do GOP POTUS' and Republican controlled congresses still always keep the progressive tax?

if votes were proportionate to taxes, progressive tax schemes would be as scarce as rocking horse poop
Thank god they arent. One person one vote remember? Or are you against that as well?
 
Yes and no. The purpose of taxes is to fund the federal government. But taxes can be used to fight inequality. Is it the only tool needed to fight inequality? No. Its one of many.



"Punishing"? Na its not punishing them. Taxes are paid because you live in a civilized society and to used to fund a government.

We had a civilized society before most forms of taxation.

In fact we get nothing of value in return and they are nothing more than stolen wealth.

Yes it is also correct one is punished with greater taxes when one has more to be taxed.

All pay too many taxes rich or poor.
 
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