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Are interracial couples acceptable?[ W: 330]

How do you feel about interracial couples

  • It's wrong to date and have children with other races

    Votes: 2 1.8%

  • It depends on the race

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Interracial couples and children are completely acceptable to me

    Votes: 106 93.8%

  • I have mixed feelings

    Votes: 5 4.4%
  • Total voters
    113
RiverDad said:
You think that there might be a cause and effect in play here?
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Couldn't say. Generally I attribute Asian success to work ethic. Maybe Asian women who go white tend to be more passive in child rearing?
 
I'll be a great uncle of a mixed-race baby soon.
My experience as a retired teacher is very positive for the functionality of mixed-race families in school academics and extra-curriculars.
As if they felt they had something to prove as a driving force above and beyond the normal love of a family .
Lovebug said:
I heard enough people say that races don't mix. That is until that cute little grand baby comes along.
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MildSteel said:
People can say what they want, my sisters will rock your world. Ask Hugh Grant about it! ;)
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Maybe she could. Just because I am not attracted to most black women...

Most ≠ all...
 
Lord of Planar said:
Maybe she could. Just because I am not attracted to most black women...

Most ≠ all...
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Truth be told, I'm not attracted to most white women, nor most Asian women, nor most black women. It's only some.
 
MildSteel said:
Truth be told, I'm not attracted to most white women, nor most Asian women, nor most black women. It's only some.
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True.

What I meant was percentage wise, I am attracted to less black women than of other races.
 
SheWolf said:
Are you trying to argue that black women are objectively ugly?
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Gathomas88 said:
There... uhh... Might actually be something to that.

I believe studies have been conducted which show that men of basically all races, except Africans themselves, tend to rate African women as being less objectively attractive than those of other races.

On the flip side of that, African men tend to be rated as being more attractive than men of other races by women regardless of their race.

The suggested reason for this, IIRC, was that African peoples tend to carry more testosterone than other races on average. This results in their men being perceived as being "manlier" than the norm, but, unfortunately, simply happens to have the same effect on their women as well.

Go figure. :shrug:

I'll see if I can't dig up a link.
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Here you go.

Why are Black Women Rated Less Physically Attractive Than Other Women, But Black Men Are Rated Better Looking Than Other Men?

Africans on average have higher levels of testosterone than other races, and testosterone, being an androgen (male hormone), affects the physical attractiveness of men and women differently. Men with high levels of testosterone have more masculine features and are therefore more physically attractive. In contrast, women with higher levels of testosterone also have more masculine features and are therefore less physically attractive. The race differences in level of testosterone can therefore potentially explain why black women are less physically attractive than women of other races, while (net of intelligence) black men are more physically attractive than men of other races.
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Take it for what it's worth. :shrug:
 
Lord of Planar said:
True.

What I meant was percentage wise, I am attracted to less black women than of other races.
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I would suggest that that may be the kind of black women you may be exposed to.
 
Gathomas88 said:
I believe studies have been conducted which show that men of basically all races, except Africans themselves, tend to rate African women as being less objectively attractive than those of other races.
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The losers in the interracial dating/marriage game of musical chairs are black women and Asian men.
 
SheWolf said:
It seems some people here are not comfortable with interracial couples...
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I've been on this forum for 8 years and have seen nothing to base your feeling on. DP members are generally indifferent to supportive of interracial couples.
 
MildSteel said:
I would suggest that that may be the kind of black women you may be exposed to.
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I was speaking strictly of physical beauty. Once they speak, most of the ones I find physically attractive become ones I wish not to know. This has to do with politics and education.
 
Gathomas88 said:
Take it for what it's worth. :shrug:
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And that study is not worth crap. First of all, how did the researcher compile the data sample. In other words it's practically impossible to examine every black women, so they had to pick some. How did they pick them?

Next of all, the study is based on an individual's perception of attractiveness. I could see no objective criteria established for measuring attractiveness.

As far as that testosterone crap goes, did they actually do a study where they measured women's testosterone level and then correlated that to physical attractiveness. Not only that, but even if they did, testosterone levels will probably vary in a single person depending on when the measurement was made.

I call BS!
 
Lord of Planar said:
Once they speak, most of the ones I find physically attractive become ones I wish not to know. This has to do with politics and education.
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For me I have had that experience with all races. It's not confined strictly to black women.
 
MildSteel said:
And that study is not worth crap. First of all, how did the researcher compile the data sample. In other words it's practically impossible to examine every black women, so they had to pick some. How did they pick them?
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I assume they would have used random sampling.

It seems unlikely that researcher bias against blacks could have been at play. If it had, black men would have not have recieved such high rankings.

Next of all, the study is based on an individual's perception of attractiveness. I could see no objective criteria established for measuring attractiveness.
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There are actually plenty.

Science Of Beauty: 4 Physical Traits That Help Define Female Facial Attractiveness (VIDEO)

Even physical attractiveness can be scientifically measured these days.

Frankly, even if that were not the case, the fact of the matter remains that just about everyone in the groups they selected obviously perceived black women to be less attractive, where the opposite was true of black men.

:shrug:

As far as that testosterone crap goes, did they actually do a study where they measured women's testosterone level and then correlated that to physical attractiveness. Not only that, but even if they did, testosterone levels will probably vary in a single person depending on when the measurement was made.

I call BS!
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Ummm... Are you really questioning the link between "masculine" features and the "male" sex hormone?
 
Gathomas88 said:
Ummm... Are you really questioning the link between "masculine" features and the "male" sex hormone?
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Yes. Too much testosterone can cause men to grow breasts. Hormone systems are incredibly complicated and don't follow linear easy to understand scaling.
 
Gathomas88 said:
I assume they would have used random sampling.
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You are assuming that. Where does it say how they were chosen?

Gathomas88 said:
It seems unlikely that researcher bias against blacks could have been at play. If it had, black men would have not have recieved such high rankings.
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It seems unlikely to you, that doesn't mean it's true. What if the researcher had a thing for black men? We don't know. Over and above that, bias may not have been the thing that caused the examination of a faulty sample. The person may not have been using good judgement.

Gathomas88 said:
There are actually plenty.
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So? Where does it say they were used in this research?


Gathomas88 said:
Frankly, even if that were not the case, the fact of the matter remains that just about everyone in the groups they selected obviously perceived black women to be less attractive, where the opposite was true of black men.
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And again, my problem is that there is no mention as to how the groups where chosen.

Gathomas88 said:
Ummm... Are you really questioning the link between "masculine" features and the "male" sex hormone?
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I never measured it. And you have put forward no research where they actually measured women's testosterone levels and then saw how that correlates with physical attractiveness. So yeah, I'm questioning it. Is there a problem with that?
 
MildSteel said:
You are assuming that. Where does it say how they were chosen?
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Gathomas88 wasn't the researcher in question so why are you demanding that he be answerable for the methods used in his cite.

If you have all of these questions, then the internet is a big place and if you seek answers you will probably find them. Happy hunting.
 
Jerry said:
I've been on this forum for 8 years and have seen nothing to base your feeling on. DP members are generally indifferent to supportive of interracial couples.
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There have been tons of white supremacists over the years on this forum Jerry. 24107 posted in this very thread and is most definitely opposed to interracial relationships. Thanks the archive function I found some interesting posts in previous discussions.

I do NOT hate our founding father's. Here let me give you an example, if i bring you a wild man from the bush's of papua new guini, who run's around naked dancing around a fire, and never bath's, and then i bring him and introduce him to your refined, civilized, intelligent, and modern adult daughter, and they get together and create a child, you don't think something got dilliuted and destroyed?
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rathi said:
Yes. Too much testosterone can cause men to grow breasts. Hormone systems are incredibly complicated and don't follow linear easy to understand scaling.
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No, it is actually the opposite.

Gynecomastia (enlarged breasts in men)

Gynecomastia is triggered by a decrease in the amount of the hormone testosterone compared with estrogen. The cause of this decrease can be conditions that block the effects of or reduce testosterone or a condition that increases your estrogen level. Several things can upset the hormone balance, including the following.
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Unless something has gone horribly awry, it can generally be taken as a given that greater levels of male or female sex hormones in an individual will play a dominant role in determining how "masculine" or "feminine" they appear to outside observers.

MildSteel said:
You are assuming that. Where does it say how they were chosen?

It seems unlikely to you, that doesn't mean it's true. What if the researcher had a thing for black men? We don't know. Over and above that, bias may not have been the thing that caused the examination of a faulty sample. The person may not have been using good judgement.

So? Where does it say they were used in this research?

And again, my problem is that there is no mention as to how the groups where chosen.

I never measured it. And you have put forward no research where they actually measured women's testosterone levels and then saw how that correlates with physical attractiveness. So yeah, I'm questioning it. Is there a problem with that?
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All you're doing here is begging the question. If you have any hard evidence available to form a rebuttal, go ahead and present it.

I see absolutely no reason whatsoever to doubt the findings of the study on the face value alone.

Their methodology appears to be perfectly legitimate and in-line with established scientific practice.
 
RiverDad said:
Gathomas88 wasn't the researcher in question so why are you demanding that he be answerable for the methods used in his cite.

If you have all of these questions, then the internet is a big place and if you seek answers you will probably find them. Happy hunting.
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He is putting it forward as research on which to base his claim so he should be able to answer the questions. If he can't then he should just say he doesn't know. Do you actually believe every piece of research that is done is accurate?
 
Gathomas88 said:
All you're doing here is begging the question. If you have any hard evidence available to form a rebuttal, go ahead and present it.

I see absolutely no reason whatsoever to doubt the findings of the study on the face value alone.

Their methodology appears to be perfectly legitimate and in-line with established scientific practice.
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You have put forward statistical evidence without any understanding as to how the sample was chosen and you want it to be accepted at "face value." What you are putting forward is pure rubbish, and no one who has actually been seriously involved with scientific research would accept that notion.
 
MildSteel said:
You have put forward statistical evidence without any understanding as to how the sample was chosen and you want it to be accepted at "face value." What you are putting forward is pure rubbish, and no one who has actually been seriously involved with scientific research would accept that notion.
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To the best of my knowledge Gathomas88 is not involved in scientific research and so he doesn't have to be held to that standard. Surely you're not claiming that only actual scientists be permitted to post science references on a discussion board.
 
RiverDad said:
To the best of my knowledge Gathomas88 is not involved in scientific research and so he doesn't have to be held to that standard. Surely you're not claiming that only actual scientists be permitted to post science references on a discussion board.
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I think that research is crap. And I have stated my reservations about it. It's fine to post scientific references, but it's not fine to say they be accepted without question.
 
MildSteel said:
You have put forward statistical evidence without any understanding as to how the sample was chosen and you want it to be accepted at "face value." What you are putting forward is pure rubbish, and no one who has actually been seriously involved with scientific research would accept that notion.
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And, again, if you feel like actually proving any of that, be my guest. :roll:

The veracity of scientific research is not determined by whether or not you happen to personally like its conclusions. If you want to dispute the study's findings, you need to provide evidence to support the assertion that its methogology was in some way fundamentally flawed.

The burden of proof here is on you. No one else.
 
The answer to the question depends on who you are. If you are a racist asshole or a Nazi, then clearly it is not acceptable. If you aren't one of those creatures, then I suspect, like me, you don't give a damn.
 
RiverDad said:
The losers in the interracial dating/marriage game of musical chairs are black women and Asian men.
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I have heard anecdotes supporting that contention. Both groups have historically been portrayed as particularly low status people in the media. Some PR and public image work could probably change that.
 
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